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There are a lot of web tools out there that can make a site really visual and graphic to the eye and then when it comes time for the search engine robots to index them, they tend to not do so well.

It is a shame, but if you know this is a problem, you can take it under advisement when you craft your site.
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Welcome to our forum!

Your site is real nice!

Is that created with flash? Will the search engines be able to index it and all the keywords in it?
yes it will be indexed...had my search engine optimizer look at that and he was skeptical at first, but now google indexes flash sites
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Although the 2 are intertwined, Indexing is separate from page rank and the two of them together combine to hand out SERPs. Search engine result pages.

Here is a good explanation of them both.

http://pcplus.techradar.com/node/3061

Your sites getting indexed mean absolutely nothing except that Google knows about you. A site with a lot of supporting text will be served up before a flash site because Google does not know what is in the flash.

Go to a site and click on the view menu option in your browser and choose view source. This is what Google sees. Firefox users select page source. Now count your words and then count your key words. Next you need to figure the % of the time your key word appears. 4-8% range is about right.

Much more and that is deemed as spammy. Normal conversational writing is what you want. Google can recognize this.

Here is one simple thing that you all can do to help your sites.

Instead of the photo you put on your site being named IMG_250.jpg rename the file Lawn Mowing Dallas TX.jpg (use your own city and state of course) Google can not tell what is in the picture but it can read the name.

For instance I have a site I am building and it has a deck staining page with 20 rotating pictures and all the pictures are named

Deck Staining City State 1(thru 20).jpg

This gets the key words

Deck Staining City State Recognized.
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I was just going to say something similar. Indexing the site doesn't mean it has a meaningful listing and I wouldn't count on it being anywhere near the first page.
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Although the 2 are intertwined, Indexing is separate from page rank and the two of them together combine to hand out SERPs. Search engine result pages.

Here is a good explanation of them both.

http://pcplus.techradar.com/node/3061

Your sites getting indexed mean absolutely nothing except that Google knows about you. A site with a lot of supporting text will be served up before a flash site because Google does not know what is in the flash.

Go to a site and click on the view menu option in your browser and choose view source. This is what Google sees. Firefox users select page source. Now count your words and then count your key words. Next you need to figure the % of the time your key word appears. 4-8% range is about right.

Much more and that is deemed as spammy. Normal conversational writing is what you want. Google can recognize this.

Here is one simple thing that you all can do to help your sites.

Instead of the photo you put on your site being named IMG_250.jpg rename the file Lawn Mowing Dallas TX.jpg (use your own city and state of course) Google can not tell what is in the picture but it can read the name.

For instance I have a site I am building and it has a deck staining page with 20 rotating pictures and all the pictures are named

Deck Staining City State 1(thru 20).jpg

This gets the key words

Deck Staining City State Recognized.
how about using a company that puts your website to the top of the search engine? i had many companies calling me about that single service stating i would be on the top of the search each time people search my service in the area i service. Is that any good?
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how about using a company that puts your website to the top of the search engine? i had many companies calling me about that single service stating i would be on the top of the search each time people search my service in the area i service. Is that any good?
They'll sell the same thing to all the other people on the list as well. Who gets top billing? I don't see how it could be true.
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I would be wary of anyone that guarantees top listing. Some can do it but that seems to be the catch phrase of the day. I am not guaranteeing this with mine but I will guarantee your ranking to increase.

Here's the thing everyone needs to be aware of, you need to understand what you are getting for your money. Don't settle for "we guarantee" you need to understand exactly what you are getting. They need to tell you what they are doing but not how they are doing it. If you are not careful and they are caught using blackhat tricks this can get your web site banned.
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Indexing the site doesn't mean it has a meaningful listing and I wouldn't count on it being anywhere near the first page.
I am glad you pointed that out.

For those who don't understand the difference between them, what is the difference?

Why isn't it just good enough for your site to be indexed? How does the indexing effect the actual position your website will appear on a search engine?
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If your site is "indexed" that just means it's in there ...


... somewhere. In other words google knows there is a site at http://boogiedownlawnmowing.com but without meaningful content google doesn't know that "mowing in Black Lick, PA" should point to it.

My local google results have served me well. I know there are some more things I should do and this winter I will be reading up on SEO more and trying to push other LCOs off the front page.
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How many key words or phrases should the average lawn care business owner be looking to utilize and how often should these words or phrases appear in their web pages?
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