Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Just starting your lawn care or landscaping business? > Starting a lawn care business.

Starting a lawn care business. How to start a lawn mowing business, lawn care business, or landscaping business. If you are starting a lawn care business, ask your questions here.

Residential or Commercial???


Starting a lawn care business.

How to start a lawn mowing business, lawn care business, or landscaping business. If you are starting a lawn care business, ask your questions here.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 10-08-2010, 07:36 PM
mortonslawn mortonslawn is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 63
Rep Power: 6
mortonslawn is on a distinguished road
Default Residential or Commercial???

I was wondering if I get a Homeowner's Association to cut, should I charge them commercial or residential prices? Commercial prices are cheaper. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance.
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #2  
Old 10-10-2010, 02:49 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 37,361
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
Ultimately, you should charge them as much as they are willing to pay.

This brings up a very good question though, how do you differ in your estimating for commercial vs. residential? Do you follow along the same bid process and then at the end knock off a certain % for the commercial property? Or how does that work?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-14-2010, 06:47 PM
mortonslawn mortonslawn is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 63
Rep Power: 6
mortonslawn is on a distinguished road
Default

Commercial accounts, I try to keep cheaper than Residentail accounts, for the simple fact, that commercial properties are USUSALLY bigger than a residential property.

One customer complained about his other landscaping company raised their prices up 50% on him,and that's why he called me. I went out and measured all the areas, and then emailed him my bid. He immediately called me back to come and cut. The grass was pretty high in some of the areas that I cut. One spot was taller than me. And after I cut it, I realized that I should have charged him and hand and a foot (I'm not greedy, no arms and legs here) to cut it.

But we all learn from our mistakes and try not to let them happen again. Right now, I'm charging him residential prices for the areas. I do a great job, and have been complimented by lots of the neighbors that live in that neighborhood. Everything is running smoothly, and I've given him a lot of freebies this past summer (just little things like spraying a rock drain area for weeds, and pulling a handful of weeds in a playground).

I'm slowly building, and loving working for myself. It sure beats the unemployment line, or looking for a sucky low paying job where you're not appreciated.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-15-2010, 06:24 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 37,361
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Quote:
One customer complained about his other landscaping company raised their prices up 50% on him,and that's why he called me. I went out and measured all the areas, and then emailed him my bid. He immediately called me back to come and cut. The grass was pretty high in some of the areas that I cut. One spot was taller than me. And after I cut it, I realized that I should have charged him and hand and a foot (I'm not greedy, no arms and legs here) to cut it.
Why do you think there was a discrepancy between what you thought it would take to cut it to what it actually took to cut it? Why do you feel there was such a difference in time?

What lesson do you feel this job has taught you?

Also, was this a one time job or did he sign up to be a re-occurring customer?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-18-2010, 06:46 PM
mortonslawn mortonslawn is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 63
Rep Power: 6
mortonslawn is on a distinguished road
Thumbs up

Well, when I first started cutting, it was only a small portion of the entrance, and a 1.75 acre playground area. So I charged the residential price. Then he added that there were other spots people were complaining about that were general areas. So I started cutting them. As time went on, there were other areas added. The HOA president was pretty new to all the things about the community, and wasn't sure of all the places that the previous company had cut. So as of right now, he's paying residential prices for all the areas that I cut. He never mentioned how many people were cutting, or how long it would take them. I know it takes me (alone) 6 hours to do all the cutting, trimming, weeding, etc.

One thing that I am definately changing next cutting season, is that if I have grass more than 6 inches tall, there is going to be a fee for every 3 inches extra. I have to change my blades on my mower to cut this high grass, and it tears up my mower doing it. I have learned that about the cutting. I never ran into this problem before when I had cut grass - until this year.

He signed up to be a reoccurring cuts. Everyone in the neighborhood loves how I cut the park, and they say that the other people never picked up the trash before cutting, they would just run it over. That is one of my pet peeves about people that cut. How hard is it to pick up a piece of trash?

He did say that he was going to drop some of the areas next year. I told him that we will need to get together before the season to decide which spots are being eliminated, and which ones are staying. He's a nice guy too.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-19-2010, 06:44 AM
WLS WLS is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 10
Rep Power: 5
WLS is on a distinguished road
Default

I have never heard of commercial cheaper than residential in my experience commercial is will to pay more for the work we do, well in my area anyway.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-19-2010, 10:33 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 37,361
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

This is a great topic.

Say you have a commercial property that takes 2 hours to mow. From the time you show up to the time you leave, you will be 100% productive.

But then say you have 4 residential properties to mow and they take 2 hours in total. Your productivity will drop because you have to drive to each location. You have to unload and load back up again. Now your productivity for those 2 hours has fallen. Could it be maybe 60-70%? Maybe less?

When do you feel you will make more money? When you are more or less productive?

Or do you simply say, I need to charge $X per hour that I am in operation? Do you charge the customers for the time it takes to drive to their location and the time it takes to unload and load back up again?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-20-2010, 05:47 PM
mcscapes mcscapes is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 14
Rep Power: 5
mcscapes is on a distinguished road
Default

It doesn't matter everyone gets the same price per hour, We use maintenance as a sales opportunity or as we call them upgradeable moments. As a previous owner of a landscape co and as of august 2010 once again in the industry.I have learned that if you give everyone a fair price and excellent service residential and commercial you will have many more cust than you have hours in the day. Each of those customers have hundreds or thousands of extra dollars they will happily give you for the services they need.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10-21-2010, 01:05 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 37,361
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Quote:
We use maintenance as a sales opportunity or as we call them upgradeable moments.
That is a very interesting term 'upgradeable moments.' Can you tell us of some situations that are upgradable moments and how you go about getting the customer to agree to the upgrades?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10-25-2010, 02:21 PM
mcscapes mcscapes is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 14
Rep Power: 5
mcscapes is on a distinguished road
Default

Upgradeable moments selling the cust flowers shrubs mulch using contacts in other industries such as roofers to gain easy profit without a major change to the time on property anything they need we are there one stop shop for there home whatever whenever =$$$$ Getting customers to agree to upgrades is the easy part point out what they need and give them the best for a great price and they will gain your trust and judgment.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
commercial vs residential Floridajoe Lawn Maintenance / Lawn Renovation 18 06-05-2010 01:24 AM
When to start marketing residential Savesutime09 Starting a lawn care business. 1 01-04-2010 10:52 AM
Commercial vs. Residential musician/lawnman General Business Discussions 40 07-04-2008 07:54 AM
Another landscaper gets shut down in a residential Steve General Business Discussions 5 07-02-2008 09:29 PM
Residential Mower question Steve Truck, Trailer, and Outdoor Power Equipment Discussion, Repairs. 4 07-07-2007 07:11 PM

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Share your stolen...
SGL1
05-27-2015 09:05 PM
Today 08:35 AM
by Chilehead
9 125
Hello All
HappyGrass
05-27-2015 10:10 PM
Today 05:05 AM
by Sprinkler Buddy
3 82
big job for me....need...
holymoly
Yesterday 06:15 AM
Today 03:42 AM
by holymoly
4 101
What a JERK!
Chilehead
05-06-2015 08:13 AM
Yesterday 03:13 PM
by HappyGrass
16 816
5 things you would...
Steve
09-11-2008 08:53 AM
Yesterday 03:02 PM
by HappyGrass
5 2,159
how to make customers...
Bradcook21
05-27-2015 05:04 PM
Yesterday 12:31 PM
by Steve
5 123
Equipment dealers
mattthelawnguy
05-21-2015 04:33 PM
Yesterday 12:20 PM
by Steve
6 211
Things your lawn care...
Steve
05-27-2015 11:48 AM
05-27-2015 11:48 AM
by Steve
0 65
I can't believe people...
ExtremeLawncareServices
05-25-2015 10:29 AM
05-27-2015 11:45 AM
by jrs.landscaping
9 266
Show us your stripes
Just for Cuts
05-21-2015 03:07 PM
05-27-2015 11:35 AM
by Steve
5 196
Pissed off customers
stonegatedesigns
05-26-2015 05:29 PM
05-27-2015 11:26 AM
by Steve
3 136
Great start to the season
jcurr33
05-25-2015 08:49 PM
05-26-2015 01:50 PM
by Steve
2 100
uploading video on here?
holymoly
05-24-2015 08:13 AM
05-26-2015 01:37 PM
by Steve
2 101
new here ! need help
pgrace
05-23-2015 11:29 PM
05-26-2015 01:35 PM
by Steve
1 119
What's your next...
Steve
05-15-2015 11:54 AM
05-26-2015 01:25 PM
by Steve
14 413
problems with a customer
LawnCareMan280
05-19-2015 06:28 PM
05-26-2015 01:22 PM
by Steve
5 232
More Rain or Less?
Steve
05-20-2015 12:06 PM
05-24-2015 04:37 PM
by SGL1
12 301
Irrigation
pboy8634
02-21-2010 12:46 PM
05-22-2015 10:05 PM
by biglee
25 8,486
Beginner Mistakes:...
Steve
01-31-2007 11:45 AM
05-22-2015 09:58 PM
by biglee
37 9,222
Peace garden ideas
SGL1
05-13-2015 03:15 PM
05-21-2015 07:51 PM
by avetslawncare
16 549
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
01-11-2015 10:41 AM
05-20-2015 09:18 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
84 6,898
Total yard rehab
SGL1
04-23-2015 03:59 PM
05-19-2015 08:22 PM
by SGL1
15 842
Say Hello !!!
Steve
03-19-2007 11:18 AM
05-19-2015 04:12 PM
by NinaMarie86
1,223 390,387
New Lawn Service
carmelitaslawnservice
05-19-2015 10:02 AM
05-19-2015 02:51 PM
by Steve
1 144
Landscaper Jailed After...
SGL1
05-18-2015 08:15 AM
05-19-2015 02:37 PM
by Steve
5 248
Pictures of commercial...
avetslawncare
04-01-2015 09:47 PM
05-19-2015 02:29 PM
by Steve
38 2,058
feeling like im being...
Bradcook21
05-17-2015 07:33 AM
05-19-2015 02:11 PM
by Steve
6 255
good news yesterday
Bradcook21
05-17-2015 07:08 AM
05-19-2015 06:16 AM
by Bradcook21
3 184
ignition coil
jasonw
05-12-2015 05:31 PM
05-18-2015 12:07 PM
by Steve
3 300
Anyone need help? I have...
biglee
05-06-2015 12:22 PM
05-18-2015 12:06 PM
by Steve
13 735
Big (to me) mulch job
tl757
04-23-2015 05:32 PM
05-15-2015 08:46 PM
by biglee
22 1,547
big dog mowers?
Bradcook21
05-13-2015 04:03 PM
05-14-2015 10:55 AM
by Steve
4 327
Small HOA Bid
lxarth
05-06-2015 10:37 PM
05-13-2015 11:55 AM
by Steve
9 552
New company in Michigan
SEM
04-24-2015 09:27 PM
05-13-2015 11:51 AM
by Steve
11 679
Fired for refusing to...
Mr. Mow
05-09-2015 06:15 AM
05-12-2015 01:36 PM
by Steve
6 545
I have ZERO confidence...
Just for Cuts
05-01-2015 04:24 PM
05-12-2015 03:53 AM
by jrs.landscaping
31 1,152
landscape insurance
clarkslawn
03-30-2015 10:14 PM
05-11-2015 01:15 PM
by Steve
6 1,063
String trim BEFORE mow...
Mr. Mow
04-12-2015 08:13 AM
05-10-2015 07:50 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
9 1,099
Bought my first STIHL...
Mr. Mow
05-09-2015 06:29 AM
05-10-2015 08:36 AM
by Mr. Mow
9 452
advice wanted please and...
CHenricks
05-07-2015 08:40 PM
05-08-2015 04:20 PM
by CHenricks
7 472
Hello
SallyBorowicz
05-06-2015 11:14 AM
05-08-2015 02:21 PM
by Steve
3 375
Mower Advice
tl757
05-06-2015 02:31 PM
05-08-2015 01:45 PM
by Steve
6 509
Home today...Still...
biglee
05-06-2015 11:59 AM
05-07-2015 12:06 PM
by biglee
2 378
I'm Back With The Best...
aduttonater
02-21-2015 12:41 AM
05-07-2015 11:17 AM
by Steve
79 4,056
color fliers?
holymoly
04-18-2015 02:32 PM
05-07-2015 10:57 AM
by Steve
16 1,074
Looking good
mrsmichigan
05-06-2015 09:47 AM
05-07-2015 10:53 AM
by Steve
1 317
What are your biggest...
Steve
05-05-2015 01:24 PM
05-07-2015 10:52 AM
by Steve
2 372
is craiglist good to...
JBENI
04-16-2015 11:11 AM
05-06-2015 07:15 PM
by TheYardGuy
12 1,159
Go daddy web site and...
jcurr33
05-04-2015 06:00 PM
05-05-2015 11:57 AM
by Steve
2 400
How busy are you now?
Steve
05-04-2015 01:10 PM
05-05-2015 11:47 AM
by Steve
4 435
» Popular Tags
aerocore apartment bid apartment lawn care estimate applying auger billy goat brushcutter blowout bob villa bush commercial deliquentaccounts demonstration design ditches door hangers employee problems estimate foreman free advertising google growing a lawn care business hardscapes how to hydraulic jobs john deere quik trac landscape landscape services landscaping training lawn lawn aeration lawn care lawn care busines plan managing a lawn care business marketing marketing secrets more customers business mulch new business ordinance patio install per hour service pricing pto scag scag v-ride scripts secrets to landscaping sell the vision shell shreaded snow plowing sq ft starting a lawn care business steep lawns swzt theft toro toro grand stand tractor auger trailer trailer mate pro up sell employee web design website website design winterization won't return wood wright stander rh
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:55 PM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:55 PM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy