Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Business > Trials & Tribulations - The drama of running a business and of life.

Trials & Tribulations - The drama of running a business and of life. It's not as easy as it looks. Running a business is full of drama. Customers, employees, money, family, time. You name it, it's a problem. Share with us your drama and how you handled it.

What I have learned


Trials & Tribulations - The drama of running a business and of life.

It's not as easy as it looks. Running a business is full of drama. Customers, employees, money, family, time. You name it, it's a problem. Share with us your drama and how you handled it.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #31  
Old 03-04-2011, 02:10 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 37,001
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Quote:
I have already eliminate the tailer and use a cube van with a ramp, my pickup was getting about 10 mpg. the bigger stronger truck can do 15 in town easy, and haul everything i could ever need.
That is fantastic! You improved your gas mileage by 50% by doing that!

Have you found any downsides to switching from your pickup with your trailer to your cube van?

What about leaves? Do you use a trailer to collect leaves with your cub van?

I also noticed you have two different cube van trucks. Did one work out better than the other?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #32  
Old 03-04-2011, 03:51 PM
hansons_lawncare hansons_lawncare is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 18
Rep Power: 6
hansons_lawncare is on a distinguished road
Default

It was the best i could do in the situation. I had an 06 pick up, that couldnt handle what I was putting it through, I went to the dealership and they had 5 cube vans from a large vending company in town that was upgrading that they pushed me towords. The first was a diesel F350 big jump from my F150. It has the huge 7.2L engine that I worried would eat up my milage but it really doesnt. It has the large frame and box that i dont notice if im pulling anything, very smoth ride. They had it listed at 9,000 with 145,000 miles. For the same Model in a Pick up was around 15,000. I saw the room for advertising and decided I would do that. The problem was my pick up was worth 17,000 and they didnt like the idea of trading down. so i looked at a few smaller trucks, telling them that I had the ford for power and needed a get around truck that i could do estimates or maybe throw a weed whip in the back and run around in the morning when its 2 wet to mow and knock out some trimming without having to have an employee to pay. so we found a little ford ranger, no towing power, small box, and surprisingly bad gas milage. So i took the weekend to study up and found out that they had 1 isuzu that was a 4 cylender diesel engine. I read the reviews on the isuzu NPRs and couldnt find a bad review. they are build with just the chassie and you can add anything to the back of it. I got looking around and found a site that takes these isuzu frames and makes a custom lawn truck for 70,000. I decided i could take a crack at building my own. so i went back to try the isuzu and from the moment i got inside i LOVED it. it is built like a small semi. its very simple but made to last. I am confident that this truck will last. They had it listed for 10,000 with 140,000 miles. we talked for a while and they did an even trade with me. So i got to work building the ramp. that was a chore. i want it to be light enough to lift but strong enouh to trust. when it was finished and i felt good about it it ended up beeing a little over 800 pounds. now i had a new problem, i tried a winch, a boat crank, considered adding hydrolics. finally decided on a garage door torshen spring. now i can drive in and out in seconds and flip up the door with 1 hand. i mounted weed whips and blowers on the wall and have a work bench in the front to store tools and gas cans. It truely is a 1 car garage. When i got the ford it was going to be my leaf truck. I had a lot of designing and hours and hours of strgle with this one and i had to give up on the idea. easy to get leaves in, a terrible half a day dirty job to get them out. I decide instead to build a box on the front of my trailer and set the billy goat in the back of the truck shooting into the trailer box. i put doors all around it so i could open them up and drive forward and close it up...... NOT how it works. the billy goat chops up so small and tight that it was a solid wall all around. It would take me 2 hours every night to empty it. on busy days i would do it 2 times. after a year and a half I decided my health and my time could be better used somewhere else and got the dump truck. i went with the metel box to cut down on places for leaves to catch when i dump, and so it wouldnt break during the summer when I take it out to do multch or rocks or whatever jobs it comes in useful. After all of this is done the things i woul consider doing differently... I would have gotten a dump truck with 4 wheel drive. Im not plowing with it so i decided i wouldnt need it. I would buy 2 isuzus over the ford. the power i gain is nice in a few cases but the milage and ease and manuverability are un matched. I have driven around in the larger cities in the fall and have seen comanies with huge leaf trucks, I wish there was a way to use the ford but i cant figure out how to get them out. It is nice however to have a safe spot to keep blowers and rakes and gas, anything you could imagine in the back of a 8x16 box truck. Ive even considered building a wall and making a little office in the back, and add a printer to do bills and everything on the job sight. or have a generater in the back with a few outlets on the out side to be able to use some electric tools. an electric chain saw is MUCH cheaper than a gas, and for the amount i use it.... just an idea. I may also use the isuzu ford for chemicles, i could have the tanks inside with the line running out the side, similar to how true green does it. I could have a VERY large tank on that frame.
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 03-04-2011, 04:19 PM
950thomas 950thomas is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 171
Rep Power: 5
950thomas is on a distinguished road
Default

to get the leavs out of the truck mount a pallet to a chain and pull them out
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 03-04-2011, 04:24 PM
hansons_lawncare hansons_lawncare is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 18
Rep Power: 6
hansons_lawncare is on a distinguished road
Default

with the amout that would be in the tuck i bet i would need another truck to pull that chain, but thats an awesome ideal. i was thinking of it all wrong i was thinking about somethng that would push out, do you think the pallet will stay strait or will it twist and only pull out a small amout. is this something you have tried
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 03-04-2011, 05:44 PM
950thomas 950thomas is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 171
Rep Power: 5
950thomas is on a distinguished road
Default

We dump at a much yard and the front leaders will pull the chain with the pallet off 4 us
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 03-04-2011, 05:50 PM
950thomas 950thomas is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 171
Rep Power: 5
950thomas is on a distinguished road
Default

I don't use that method but most companies where I live use it u can rig the pallet where it will stand up till u get the leaves in it to hold it up the pallet will pull out most of the leaves
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 03-04-2011, 06:02 PM
hansons_lawncare hansons_lawncare is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 18
Rep Power: 6
hansons_lawncare is on a distinguished road
Default

alright cool, that just makes one of my trucks much more useful. how do they vent the truck for the air to get out. i have seen 2 different ways of doing it, where the back door only comes half way up. and a way where the hose fits tight in a hole. i prefer using the hole, so there is less of a mess and i can fill the box more.
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 03-04-2011, 06:10 PM
950thomas 950thomas is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 171
Rep Power: 5
950thomas is on a distinguished road
Default

they make a vent for those trucks that u can put on or u can buy a cloths dryer vent and cut a hole and put in
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 03-05-2011, 01:32 PM
SLPettet SLPettet is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 3
Rep Power: 5
SLPettet is on a distinguished road
Default Cheap places to buy equipment

Have you tried Partstree. com or smallenginewarehouse.com?? You can get cheap mower blades at expressmowerparts.com also.
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 03-06-2011, 04:35 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 37,001
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Quote:
I decided i could take a crack at building my own. so i went back to try the isuzu and from the moment i got inside i LOVED it.
Do you have any pictures of the construction process? I'd love to see what you did.
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
What have you learned? CHEESE2009 General Talk 9 07-01-2009 12:16 AM
Learned Helplessness StartALawnCareBusiness Starting a lawn care business. 3 06-27-2008 01:20 AM
Kiss, what have we learned from them Steve Franchise Building, Entrepreneurs, Business Leaders, & Innovators Discussions 4 02-09-2008 01:21 PM

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Opinions on truck wrap
Truro
02-28-2015 04:21 PM
Today 09:20 PM
by joshlawncare
11 240
Doug With Blades Of...
BladesofSteel
Today 08:40 PM
Today 08:40 PM
by BladesofSteel
0 6
Jesse with Curb Appeal...
CurbAppeal1
Today 01:44 PM
Today 06:48 PM
by CurbAppeal1
12 113
New guy from Columbia, SC
holymoly
Today 05:27 PM
Today 06:10 PM
by Steve
1 24
Diesel conversion?
Just for Cuts
Yesterday 10:59 AM
Today 06:08 PM
by Just for Cuts
4 96
Kawasaki Control Assembly
rsanchez1203
Today 04:21 PM
Today 06:05 PM
by Just for Cuts
6 72
stubbon people
Bradcook21
02-16-2015 04:25 PM
Today 05:56 PM
by Steve
45 1,426
What's include in a bid?
ppl
Yesterday 01:19 PM
Today 05:53 PM
by Steve
9 182
New Website
brian'slawncare
03-01-2015 06:35 PM
Today 05:48 PM
by Steve
8 150
How do YOU charge your...
Hard-Body lawn & garden
Yesterday 09:28 PM
Today 05:44 PM
by Steve
1 53
New Lawn Care Business
S&Z Lawncare
Yesterday 04:13 PM
Today 05:39 PM
by Steve
3 97
My Newborn son
avetslawncare
02-27-2015 01:07 PM
Today 05:23 PM
by joshlawncare
7 155
New parking area
ExtremeLawncareServices
11-07-2014 09:47 PM
Today 02:50 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
14 2,036
rock salt
Bradcook21
02-24-2015 11:17 AM
Today 01:26 PM
by jrs.landscaping
30 631
tips on creating a...
BLAZIER-1991
01-08-2015 07:22 PM
Today 10:38 AM
by brian'slawncare
9 797
pros and cons on...
Wolf4dk
Yesterday 12:26 AM
Yesterday 10:14 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
6 129
price for snow clearing?
Bradcook21
02-25-2015 09:11 PM
Yesterday 08:32 PM
by Bradcook21
7 269
Ugliest lawn contest
Steve
02-23-2015 04:17 PM
Yesterday 04:57 PM
by Steve
5 367
Hi from the beautiful...
nwgirl
02-07-2015 06:01 AM
Yesterday 04:45 PM
by Steve
5 655
Online Estimator
acrajchel
03-01-2015 05:58 PM
Yesterday 03:50 PM
by Steve
3 108
How to obtain more...
winkie61
02-17-2015 08:31 AM
Yesterday 11:05 AM
by nwgirl
4 591
I'm Back With The Best...
aduttonater
02-21-2015 01:41 AM
Yesterday 10:44 AM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
16 670
How to sell annual...
GroPro
02-17-2015 12:31 PM
03-01-2015 01:46 PM
by Chilehead
8 623
Facebook
element009
03-23-2011 09:36 AM
02-27-2015 11:37 AM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
52 11,859
Blade sharpener
Just for Cuts
07-04-2014 01:31 PM
02-26-2015 03:43 PM
by Mr. Mow
15 1,791
viking cyclon.
uppercut
01-29-2015 09:12 PM
02-26-2015 02:54 PM
by Steve
5 542
Start LIKING FACEBOOK...
rlclawncare123
02-26-2015 01:06 AM
02-26-2015 02:41 PM
by Steve
1 144
Another website update
Chilehead
02-26-2015 11:24 AM
02-26-2015 12:46 PM
by Just for Cuts
3 137
New Lawn Care Service...
rlclawncare123
02-26-2015 12:49 AM
02-26-2015 02:24 AM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
1 159
Finally!
SGL1
02-22-2015 09:46 PM
02-25-2015 10:15 PM
by SGL1
13 495
leaf removal.. mulching...
facework84
08-05-2011 03:26 PM
02-25-2015 08:07 PM
by Steve
5 2,828
How many customers?
SC93
02-25-2015 12:40 AM
02-25-2015 04:59 PM
by SC93
5 269
Irrigation...
charlieallen
02-24-2015 01:16 PM
02-25-2015 02:58 PM
by Steve
6 259
use a small business...
BLAZIER-1991
12-25-2014 12:21 AM
02-25-2015 12:46 AM
by SC93
33 2,882
honest opinion please
uppercut
02-17-2015 02:30 AM
02-24-2015 07:12 PM
by homey
10 710
2nd year advice anyone
Bradcook21
02-18-2015 07:00 PM
02-24-2015 05:15 PM
by Bradcook21
14 682
need help
lawnexpers115
02-23-2015 05:36 PM
02-24-2015 02:49 PM
by Steve
3 303
Hello People
nativikee
02-23-2015 07:17 PM
02-24-2015 02:43 PM
by Steve
4 303
New member
qua ke zik 001
02-23-2015 11:24 AM
02-23-2015 03:40 PM
by Steve
1 256
New Video
Sprinkler Buddy
02-22-2015 09:18 PM
02-23-2015 03:19 PM
by Sprinkler Buddy
2 279
need help with SCAG...
apmAkron
02-23-2015 09:14 AM
02-23-2015 01:57 PM
by apmAkron
3 280
which degrees would be...
BLAZIER-1991
02-20-2015 04:46 PM
02-23-2015 01:47 PM
by Steve
9 450
Trouble logging in
avetslawncare
02-21-2015 02:06 PM
02-23-2015 01:44 PM
by Steve
1 667
John Deere Quik Track...
acrajchel
02-20-2015 03:12 PM
02-23-2015 01:40 PM
by Steve
1 317
Trimming and...
joshlawncare
02-15-2015 02:04 PM
02-22-2015 09:48 PM
by SGL1
5 652
where can i post this
zippy-phil
02-17-2015 07:58 PM
02-20-2015 02:02 PM
by Steve
7 532
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
01-11-2015 11:41 AM
02-19-2015 04:43 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
29 2,707
Thumbs up or down?
lawnman1959
02-18-2015 11:40 AM
02-19-2015 01:22 PM
by Chilehead
3 450
Am I growing too fast?
Mattcrump
08-04-2011 11:54 PM
02-19-2015 12:34 PM
by Steve
11 5,250
Say Hello !!!
Steve
03-19-2007 12:18 PM
02-19-2015 12:31 PM
by Steve
1,215 372,307
» Popular Tags
2wd 4wd apartment complex bark blades blowout bob villa collections commercial curb appeal services demonstration edging employee problems facebook first truck flyers free advertising gopherhaul grass gravely growing a lawn care business hardscapes hills hiring how to hydraulic landscape landscape services landscaping training lawn aeration lawn care lawn care busines plan lawn care business podcast lawn care business seo lawn care business show lawn care business website lawn care business website seo lawn care website marketing more customers business mr dave new business new mower ordinance past due patio install per hour charge podcast profit on employee push versus ride running a business scag v-ride scripts search engine optimization sell the vision seo shreaded small engine repair sq ft sulky tractor auger trailer mate pro trimmer rack truck new used landscape walk behind web design website won't return wood wright stander rh
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:23 PM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:23 PM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy