Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Lawn Care, Landscaping, and Property Management Forums > General Talk

General Talk If it doesn't fit anywhere else, post it here.

Our 3320 and a Driveway


General Talk

If it doesn't fit anywhere else, post it here.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 09-07-2010, 06:07 PM
picframer's Avatar
picframer picframer is offline
Andy
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 2,885
Rep Power: 11
picframer will become famous soon enough
Default Our 3320 and a Driveway

My 2520 is in for service (my personal favorite of the herd) so I have been using our 3320 for about a week or so, there are many things I really miss about the 2520 and I have little seat time on a 3320, although I have put more on in the past week than the past 18 months as she is generally with another crew.

Today's job, spread 38 yards of crusher run, I started this project a month ago but haven't been able to get the right rock for the driveway due to highway construction.

The client didn't like their narrow driveway, it wasn't crowned, the culvert was too narrow and they were buying a 30 foot travel trailer and needed an area excavated to park it, so all of that was done while we waited for the rock.

I always do these jobs with the 2520 as it's easy to get around however this one is wide open, after friggin around for a few moments I found the sweet spot for the top link and the depth control, it's second nature on the 2520 as I do so many of these.

If someone were to ask me what the main difference is between these two tractors, one word Traction, this 3320 is shocking, drop the box blade and go, where I may have to make a few pass's with the 2520 this thing just takes it and runs. Power in my experience is never the issue, I even use a BB on the X749, it is always traction.

Anyhow a few pics
1) Start of the project, 19 yards has already been dumped
2) Image 2 & 3 my quarry supplier probably has 60 trucks however there are 5 or 6 drivers there I always ask for as they really know their stuff when it comes to spreader chains, a good driver can save me over an hour per load, get a rookie and it can be a mess getting everything the way I like it
3)It only took me 1 hr and 15 min to complete the BB work, she is now ready for compacting, generally I would be about 3 hours at this point
4) The 3320 - I put a rock on all the BB for two reasons, first is down pressure which the 2000 series does not have, second is ballast, we carry some insane weights in the buckets at times and the ballast box even with cement isn't heavy enough for the 2520 or 2570
5) We are finished.

Client is happy My helper and I spent the afternoon on a tree cleanup job, I am not kidding when I say we will be there until the snow flies, the place is a mess with downfall....I will work there a couple of days then send in a different crew as I like variety!
Attached Images
File Type: jpg start.jpg (82.7 KB, 16 views)
File Type: jpg spreaderchains.jpg (105.5 KB, 14 views)
File Type: jpg spreaderchains2.jpg (67.1 KB, 11 views)
File Type: jpg bbfinished.jpg (106.5 KB, 14 views)
File Type: jpg 3320bb.jpg (109.6 KB, 17 views)
File Type: jpg finished.jpg (133.9 KB, 14 views)
__________________
Andy
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #2  
Old 09-07-2010, 08:53 PM
justin_time justin_time is offline
Justin
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: French River, ON, Canada
Age: 30
Posts: 1,801
Rep Power: 0
justin_time is on a distinguished road
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
Quote:
Originally Posted by picframer View Post
My 2520 is in for service (my personal favorite of the herd) so I have been using our 3320 for about a week or so, there are many things I really miss about the 2520 and I have little seat time on a 3320, although I have put more on in the past week than the past 18 months as she is generally with another crew.

Today's job, spread 38 yards of crusher run, I started this project a month ago but haven't been able to get the right rock for the driveway due to highway construction.

The client didn't like their narrow driveway, it wasn't crowned, the culvert was too narrow and they were buying a 30 foot travel trailer and needed an area excavated to park it, so all of that was done while we waited for the rock.

I always do these jobs with the 2520 as it's easy to get around however this one is wide open, after friggin around for a few moments I found the sweet spot for the top link and the depth control, it's second nature on the 2520 as I do so many of these.

If someone were to ask me what the main difference is between these two tractors, one word Traction, this 3320 is shocking, drop the box blade and go, where I may have to make a few pass's with the 2520 this thing just takes it and runs. Power in my experience is never the issue, I even use a BB on the X749, it is always traction.

Anyhow a few pics
1) Start of the project, 19 yards has already been dumped
2) Image 2 & 3 my quarry supplier probably has 60 trucks however there are 5 or 6 drivers there I always ask for as they really know their stuff when it comes to spreader chains, a good driver can save me over an hour per load, get a rookie and it can be a mess getting everything the way I like it
3)It only took me 1 hr and 15 min to complete the BB work, she is now ready for compacting, generally I would be about 3 hours at this point
4) The 3320 - I put a rock on all the BB for two reasons, first is down pressure which the 2000 series does not have, second is ballast, we carry some insane weights in the buckets at times and the ballast box even with cement isn't heavy enough for the 2520 or 2570
5) We are finished.

Client is happy My helper and I spent the afternoon on a tree cleanup job, I am not kidding when I say we will be there until the snow flies, the place is a mess with downfall....I will work there a couple of days then send in a different crew as I like variety!
When you quote this job do you pay for the dump truck loads or do you get a separate quote for that ?
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-07-2010, 09:57 PM
mzlawncare's Avatar
mzlawncare mzlawncare is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 80
Rep Power: 6
mzlawncare is on a distinguished road
Default

nice work.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-08-2010, 04:45 AM
picframer's Avatar
picframer picframer is offline
Andy
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 2,885
Rep Power: 11
picframer will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by justin_time View Post
When you quote this job do you pay for the dump truck loads or do you get a separate quote for that ?
I have an account with the quarry as we order so much and I get a very good discount. I can tell from looking at a driveway how many yards I will need, when it comes to driveways I only order full loads as 1/3 of the cost is transportation. I take my cost and double it for a quote and we get every driveway quote I give.
__________________
Andy
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-08-2010, 07:04 AM
LawnMoore's Avatar
LawnMoore LawnMoore is offline
Mr. Moore
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Suwannee River Florida
Age: 30
Posts: 288
Rep Power: 6
LawnMoore is on a distinguished road
Default

Maybe i will get me a CUT so i can do these driveways!

Is this the same with a new construction?

What exactly is this rock material? granite,concrete, what?

Basically spread it with the BB and then compact it with a water filled roller?
__________________
(352)682-3094 Suwannee River, Florida 32680

Visit my site, http://www.lawnmoore.com, Thanks!
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-08-2010, 11:40 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 37,821
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Great job on the driveway! You make it look so easy!

Were there any lessons you learned from this specific job or no?

This may be a dumb question, but when presented with a new driver, can you get up there in the drivers seat and dump the rock? Or is this a skill you would only have after driving such a truck for quite some time?

Quote:
when it comes to driveways I only order full loads as 1/3 of the cost is transportation.
What do you do with leftover rock? Can you always find a way to use it all?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-08-2010, 07:07 PM
picframer's Avatar
picframer picframer is offline
Andy
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 2,885
Rep Power: 11
picframer will become famous soon enough
Default

There is very good money in gravel driveways, both new and reconstruction, it's easy, fast and simple once you are onto it and when people see your work as they drive or walk by, you will be shocked at the number of people who will want their done, prime time is spring due to snow plowing or after a major rain, look for wash outs but don;t only sell a fixed driveway, fix the problem with proper drainage, it's how we really made our mark last year and business just pours in.

This is what we call crusher run, it's 1/2" rock and crusher dust, 60 percent rock, 40 percent dust, compacts like concrete.

We compact flat driveways with a roller and rent a 3 ton ride on roller for driveways with a grade.
__________________
Andy
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-08-2010, 07:12 PM
picframer's Avatar
picframer picframer is offline
Andy
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 2,885
Rep Power: 11
picframer will become famous soon enough
Default

[Thanks Steve, it looks easy as it is easy to do, I bet I can train anyone in three hours to get these results, I train staff and some have never sat on a tractor before.

No lessons on this driveway, I have done probably 200 or so, have learned all the tricks, what to do and what not to do, I simply eye ball it, order the rock and do it.

Yes, I have my Class 1, I dump probably 30 loads of stuff a year, sometimes the driver is not comfortable doing what I ask or they may be new and if they do not do it the way I ask, they can get out with a shovel and make it right, I am not kidding, I did this twice last year so the point was made. The companies we buy from know me well now so they know who to send, any of the drivers however will let me drive their trucks, it's somewhat of a small world, we get pretty tight fast, they bring us coffee sometimes, we sometimes have donuts etc.

Never have too much rock, I can eye ball an area for driveways, lawns, mulch and be bang on every time without measuring.
__________________
Andy
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 09-09-2010, 07:05 AM
LawnMoore's Avatar
LawnMoore LawnMoore is offline
Mr. Moore
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Suwannee River Florida
Age: 30
Posts: 288
Rep Power: 6
LawnMoore is on a distinguished road
Default

Im going to have to actually call a quarry out here Andy.

Could you be a little more specific on what i would need for a new drive, now remember im not in the snow either.

I thought i remember you saying something about huge boulders maybe or larger rock.

but there arent many of these around my area so im actually lighting up with

'$_$' behind my eyes!

but i want to really get a good idea from the quarry on prices so if you can let me know any info on laying down a new drive with materials, i'd love it.
__________________
(352)682-3094 Suwannee River, Florida 32680

Visit my site, http://www.lawnmoore.com, Thanks!
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 09-09-2010, 08:05 PM
picframer's Avatar
picframer picframer is offline
Andy
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 2,885
Rep Power: 11
picframer will become famous soon enough
Default

I use two products and two only.

If the client can afford it I use crushed granite, OMG it looks nice but cost twice as much.

The quarry will be familiar with Class "A", which is what we call 3/4" crusher run, however I buy an even finer grade which is a little more money, it's is 1/2" crushed rock mixed with crusher dust. PM me and I can mail you a small box

Now since you do not have snow, you can use Class A, the reason I refuse is it doesn't pack super tight so the first snow fall part of the friggin driveway is plowed away.
__________________
Andy
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Driveway leads to a ton of work picframer Online Lawn Care Estimator - Help me bid this job 19 08-02-2010 07:54 PM
Building a Driveway picframer General Talk 10 04-30-2010 11:54 AM
Retaining Wall, Driveway MattW Online Lawn Care Estimator - Help me bid this job 3 10-24-2009 05:29 AM
Levelling a Driveway picframer Show Off - Picture Post - Photo Gallery 15 03-17-2009 12:16 PM
Paver Driveway patphish123 Tree Care, Irrigation, Landscaping, Hardscapes 1 06-01-2008 08:36 AM

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
back surgery
Bradcook21
01-28-2016 08:51 PM
Yesterday 02:04 PM
by Bradcook21
16 409
Help Spread the word...
Sprinkler Buddy
12-02-2015 08:41 AM
Yesterday 08:19 AM
by Sprinkler Buddy
19 1,318
Howdy Yall !!!
B&C
02-10-2016 10:06 AM
Yesterday 01:05 AM
by Steve
1 37
hello
2menandmowers
02-10-2016 07:32 AM
Yesterday 12:53 AM
by Steve
1 39
Best two stroke oil
Greg_TopYardServices
02-08-2016 07:53 PM
Yesterday 12:51 AM
by Steve
8 137
Hello everyone!!!
1newkirk05
02-09-2016 03:16 PM
02-10-2016 04:05 PM
by jrs.landscaping
7 137
Tine Rake Detaching vs...
wigglesworth
02-09-2016 05:32 PM
02-09-2016 07:43 PM
by Steve
1 57
Finding open bids?!?
C&DPropertyManagement
02-07-2016 01:48 AM
02-09-2016 07:11 PM
by Steve
3 129
hello all
romanlandscape
01-29-2016 03:46 PM
02-07-2016 10:20 AM
by Bradcook21
6 228
Lawn Care Book Ranked #1
Steve
02-06-2016 12:36 AM
02-06-2016 12:36 AM
by Steve
0 111
Hi
Sellers Lawn Care
02-02-2016 01:48 PM
02-05-2016 08:03 AM
by Sellers Lawn Care
4 176
Collecting payments from...
Niagara Mowing
02-03-2016 05:21 PM
02-05-2016 08:00 AM
by Niagara Mowing
7 235
SMS assist? The good,...
jcurr33
01-27-2016 10:24 PM
02-04-2016 11:53 PM
by Steve
5 265
I need some help...
Anise
02-04-2016 01:39 PM
02-04-2016 11:51 PM
by Steve
3 141
Customers dodging the...
Rocky
11-06-2015 06:22 AM
02-04-2016 03:41 AM
by C&DPropertyManagement
7 1,516
Offering a "Trial"...
wybut076
02-01-2016 06:27 PM
02-03-2016 08:26 PM
by Just for Cuts
7 264
Iowa Caucus Predictions?
Steve
02-01-2016 06:31 PM
02-03-2016 12:40 AM
by Steve
1 119
Laying White River Rock
DiamondLawnCare
02-01-2016 08:27 PM
02-03-2016 12:17 AM
by Steve
1 140
Networking for a...
jcurr33
01-30-2016 09:26 PM
02-01-2016 06:27 PM
by Steve
4 217
Customer giving a 1099?
apmAkron
01-27-2016 07:22 PM
01-31-2016 08:55 PM
by Chilehead
6 276
happy to be here
redrobin
01-29-2016 10:45 AM
01-31-2016 08:44 PM
by Steve
1 151
Thought's on an "E-Z...
jcurr33
01-27-2016 10:48 PM
01-31-2016 08:38 PM
by Steve
4 246
Changes
Knaubone
01-30-2016 10:56 PM
01-31-2016 08:31 PM
by Steve
1 141
Thoughts on this Exmark...
googus
01-28-2016 04:24 PM
01-28-2016 08:09 PM
by Chilehead
1 164
1st year in
jcurr33
10-18-2015 05:07 PM
01-28-2016 07:49 PM
by Chilehead
6 4,156
Need opinion on zero...
Mr. Mow
01-24-2016 05:42 PM
01-28-2016 07:41 PM
by Chilehead
10 379
Opinion on liquid vs...
Bradcook21
01-25-2016 02:03 PM
01-28-2016 07:38 PM
by Chilehead
9 324
Finding property size
Gageslawncare
01-25-2016 11:08 AM
01-28-2016 12:05 PM
by Gageslawncare
10 338
Tiger TG 2661 Commercial...
lawnman1959
01-25-2016 08:12 PM
01-27-2016 07:57 PM
by Just for Cuts
5 262
Spouse as a dependent?
Steve
01-26-2016 01:51 AM
01-27-2016 10:44 AM
by Chilehead
3 218
Hello All
C&DPropertyManagement
01-23-2016 12:21 PM
01-26-2016 01:24 AM
by Steve
1 191
Credit Cards - What's in...
Shark1611
06-16-2015 04:04 PM
01-23-2016 03:43 PM
by C&DPropertyManagement
17 7,705
Start My Own Business?
mowandblow1980
01-12-2016 08:43 PM
01-19-2016 07:00 PM
by Steve
12 666
State of the nation 2016.
Steve
01-12-2016 12:05 AM
01-19-2016 06:57 PM
by Steve
6 400
little help? first big...
Brian3137
12-31-2015 12:39 PM
01-19-2016 06:54 PM
by Steve
23 1,109
Hi everybody...
Greg_TopYardServices
01-14-2016 08:10 AM
01-19-2016 02:47 PM
by SC93
12 469
What's your next...
Steve
05-15-2015 12:54 PM
01-17-2016 08:48 PM
by Homeland unlimited
25 7,941
Plow controller problems
scaypa
01-12-2016 05:49 PM
01-16-2016 10:46 AM
by scaypa
4 309
Say Hello !!!
Steve
03-19-2007 12:18 PM
01-15-2016 07:23 PM
by tannerduncan
1,244 428,218
Pricing issue
Mr. Mow
07-07-2015 07:15 AM
01-15-2016 11:20 AM
by djlandscaping06
23 5,447
New College Course
Dr. D
01-14-2016 01:45 PM
01-14-2016 05:35 PM
by Steve
1 226
Yelp
Shark1611
01-13-2016 10:00 AM
01-14-2016 05:32 PM
by Steve
4 280
New to the forum from...
Doug Green
01-12-2016 12:23 PM
01-14-2016 08:34 AM
by Doug Green
2 268
Facebook advertising
Just for Cuts
12-13-2015 08:49 AM
01-13-2016 10:20 PM
by Just for Cuts
12 959
Choosing local business
Doug Green
01-12-2016 12:29 PM
01-13-2016 06:12 PM
by Steve
2 430
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:58 AM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:58 AM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy