Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Lawn Care, Landscaping, and Property Management Forums > General Talk

General Talk If it doesn't fit anywhere else, post it here.

I wonder


General Talk

If it doesn't fit anywhere else, post it here.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 06-22-2010, 07:41 PM
picframer's Avatar
picframer picframer is offline
Andy
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 2,885
Rep Power: 9
picframer will become famous soon enough
Default I wonder

What qualifies one in our trade as a lawn expert.....

Back in mid March lady contacts me to look at their lawn, I did, I understand it's early in the season but I could see it looked to be 40% weeds and rough would be a gross understatement. Anyhow they built the house late last year and had contacted us to landscape, we couldn't as I was booked at the time into November, wanted me to suggest another company, company policy is we don't.

Anyhow I said we would spray it in in mid April, gave her a quote and she accepted. For my first spray I doubles everything, we can do this without hurting when using Organics, said I would be back in mid to late May to mow and overseed.

Went back, initial spray had done nothing, grass was brown still 90% and full of weeds, I suggested she call the company that did the work and have them out, I showed here there was next to no top soil and new sod may have a weed or to but hers was mainly weeds and I could tell it was never rolled, she showed me the quote and it was to be 6" top soil and premium sod, No way I said.

Anyhow I double sprayed again and overseeded after mowing.

She contacted me today, the company that laid it will not honor their three year guarantee, I saw the lawn tonight, it's brown, very little green. She is taking legal action as it's 60,000 sq/ft, she wants a quote to remove the sod and do it right which I can do as we have special buckets on the excavators for this job and it's easy.

Now her lawyer calls me tonight and they are going to call me as an expert in small claims court, I said I am no expert, I turn lawns around but I told her from day one it wasn't done per her contract, he said we are calling you as an expert anyhow, so I gave him my background and he says great, we will see you in court and thank you.

I am sitting here tonight, I know my stuff but I don;t have any certification but I know someone who is a 30 year family friend and the grounds keeper for the city that is, I am going to have her take a look with me and take the stand along with me as she is a certified Horticulturist.

I'm wondering however other than this certification, what makes one an expert?
__________________
Andy
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #2  
Old 06-22-2010, 08:55 PM
swstout's Avatar
swstout swstout is offline
Steve
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Canastota, NY
Age: 65
Posts: 1,082
Rep Power: 7
swstout is on a distinguished road
Default Expert Status

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
I don’t know what the requirements are to be an “expert” in Canada, but, here you will be recognized as an “expert” if you blindly adhere too and propagandize GLOBAL WARMING, greenhouse gasses, and support Cap and Trade.

Last week, I went to a County seminar on organic lawn care. There, to my amazement, I learned that manure based top dressing increased the emission of greenhouse gasses into the atmosphere (among other things).

The “expert” presenting the seminar, was well qualified. He was from the Law Department from Coker College. Oh yea, his home had 3.8 acres of lawn but he had to admit that he outsourced the lawn care.

The seminar was 3 hours long and 2-½ hours of it was on Global Warming!
I learned that I should use electric lawn mowers, edgers and weed whackers. That I should use mechanical detaching and collect and “properly" dispose of the recovered thatch and lawn clippings because the decomposition would add to greenhouse gas production.

I spent $50.00 for the seminar and for attending, I was placed on the County’s approved organic lawn care suppliers. Oh Yea, I also got a copy of “An Incontinent Truth.”

So, I guess I’m now an “expert!”

Steve
__________________


Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 06-23-2010, 01:20 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,603
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

That is a very good question!

Quote:
I showed here there was next to no top soil and new sod may have a weed or to but hers was mainly weeds and I could tell it was never rolled, she showed me the quote and it was to be 6" top soil and premium sod, No way I said.
I would think if you work in the field for a number of years, you are going to be an expert in that field.

When we are talking about being able to see if 6 inches of topsoil had been added, this shouldn't be to taxing of a question and not a tough one for you to explain your answer.

It will be fascinating to hear how all this progresses. I am sure the home owners are happy to have your services both for their lawn and for the courtroom.

Keep us posted as to how this goes because most people are fearful of the courtroom and dont get much of a chance to see how it works.
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-23-2010, 04:27 PM
picframer's Avatar
picframer picframer is offline
Andy
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 2,885
Rep Power: 9
picframer will become famous soon enough
Default

Had a long conversation with the owner of our Organic Soil company, we are a pretty big client of theirs and he really knows his stuff with 30+ years in the Organic Soil Industry, his company is considered the best, next I called the owners son of our sod supplier, they are the largest in Atlantic Canada and he too is super and really knows their stuff, both made pretty much the same comment, Andy you are one of the fastest growing companies around with top of the line equipment and we have seen your work, your growth is because of the quality of your work and your staff. You do not want to be drawn into this problem, this potential client should hire a Horticulturist to inspect the lawn condition and present a report which in turn can be used in court.

I knew this in the back of my mind last night after posting this. A court looks for education in the field, I am pretty much self taught in lawn care, sure I can provide a hundred outstanding references on how we turned the clients lawn around but I don't really want my name or my company name drawn into this.
__________________
Andy
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
This sucks...
Matther777
09-18-2014 05:56 PM
Today 11:56 AM
by achri12
15 3,099
leaf removal
Double J LLC
10-03-2014 05:24 PM
Today 11:08 AM
by achri12
20 2,310
New website
Chilehead
11-20-2014 04:39 PM
Today 10:53 AM
by Just for Cuts
8 180
My site is on fronts page
tbtigers03
11-14-2014 05:58 PM
Yesterday 10:49 PM
by Just for Cuts
16 480
Pics for website
tbtigers03
11-21-2014 05:40 PM
Yesterday 10:01 PM
by Just for Cuts
3 107
Peco Bagger
AGPS
11-18-2014 02:20 PM
Yesterday 05:56 PM
by AGPS
9 276
Beginner Mistakes:...
Steve
01-31-2007 12:45 PM
Yesterday 02:42 PM
by stevef1201
22 6,093
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
03-22-2014 10:12 AM
11-21-2014 09:48 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
174 13,953
Hello from Kentucky
TRV
09-30-2014 06:42 PM
11-21-2014 09:38 PM
by TRV
6 1,254
Contract or no contract?
TRV
11-20-2014 09:18 PM
11-21-2014 09:33 PM
by TRV
3 142
Hi to you NOTHERNERS
stevef1201
11-11-2014 05:56 PM
11-21-2014 08:02 PM
by stevef1201
4 304
Billboards for marketing
ExtremeLawncareServices
11-16-2014 08:39 PM
11-21-2014 07:05 PM
by acrajchel
13 359
Belt dealer problem
googus
11-21-2014 08:45 AM
11-21-2014 06:36 PM
by Steve
2 94
Good help is hard to find
Hanks Lawn Care Services
11-19-2014 03:27 PM
11-21-2014 06:32 PM
by Steve
7 200
How to: Use Thumbtack...
acrajchel
11-17-2014 06:39 PM
11-21-2014 06:07 PM
by acrajchel
15 459
What is going on with...
biglee
11-14-2014 03:04 PM
11-20-2014 02:50 PM
by biglee
40 916
My advice for new guys
avetslawncare
11-15-2014 09:32 AM
11-19-2014 01:47 PM
by biglee
10 468
Lawn Care business...
crieg122
10-23-2014 02:23 PM
11-19-2014 12:39 PM
by acrajchel
28 1,829
raking leaves ?
robert8509
10-22-2014 10:19 PM
11-18-2014 04:24 PM
by acrajchel
14 1,427
Leaf removal
madmedic8575
10-24-2014 05:14 PM
11-17-2014 07:34 PM
by acrajchel
6 1,175
sod job
SGlawncare
10-30-2014 09:21 PM
11-17-2014 07:10 PM
by acrajchel
7 740
Customer wants me to...
Mr. Mow
11-09-2014 07:13 AM
11-17-2014 06:48 PM
by acrajchel
10 510
Hello!
Brian3137
11-11-2014 07:15 PM
11-17-2014 06:46 PM
by acrajchel
14 451
small biz in Phoenix,AZ
anthonyramos1
11-08-2014 09:35 PM
11-17-2014 05:59 PM
by acrajchel
2 311
Client won't pay...
WesleySnips
10-30-2014 03:53 PM
11-17-2014 05:37 PM
by acrajchel
22 1,345
Government contracts
avetslawncare
11-15-2014 08:50 AM
11-17-2014 12:59 PM
by Steve
2 235
Need help on deciding a...
Brian3137
11-10-2014 06:32 PM
11-17-2014 12:44 PM
by Steve
12 500
West cost lawn prices
SGlawncare
10-09-2014 10:51 PM
11-16-2014 07:54 AM
by stevef1201
8 1,580
So how do you guys...
Mr. Mow
10-26-2014 08:55 AM
11-15-2014 08:44 AM
by avetslawncare
14 1,686
Truck, Trailer,...
hawthornelawncare
12-23-2011 01:01 AM
11-13-2014 08:35 AM
by jrs.landscaping
81 31,800
The most dangerous part...
Steve
10-06-2014 03:45 PM
11-12-2014 05:05 PM
by stevef1201
14 1,657
A little hang up in snow...
stevef1201
11-08-2014 07:05 AM
11-12-2014 12:51 PM
by Steve
4 408
Bi-weekly winter...
lxarth
11-04-2014 08:37 PM
11-12-2014 10:06 AM
by WesleySnips
9 606
taking first steps...
sizemorelawncare
11-10-2014 08:24 PM
11-11-2014 01:21 PM
by Steve
1 307
Back Pack Blower
Ian Lovejoy
11-09-2014 08:41 AM
11-11-2014 08:12 AM
by Just for Cuts
4 365
Business Cards
crieg122
10-25-2014 01:03 PM
11-11-2014 07:56 AM
by Just for Cuts
12 1,311
How the unregister?
alive101
11-04-2014 07:39 AM
11-10-2014 01:48 PM
by Steve
4 587
Belt adjustment question
googus
11-05-2014 06:43 AM
11-10-2014 01:38 PM
by Steve
5 497
New parking area
ExtremeLawncareServices
11-07-2014 09:47 PM
11-10-2014 01:25 PM
by Steve
2 330
Podcast
Shark1611
11-07-2014 05:42 PM
11-10-2014 11:41 AM
by Steve
1 292
hi, from Minnesota
rjklohn
11-07-2014 02:21 AM
11-07-2014 01:44 PM
by Steve
1 306
New to snow plowing
SS.Lawncare
11-05-2014 04:00 PM
11-07-2014 01:21 PM
by Steve
6 539
New Member
tonyap
11-05-2014 10:35 PM
11-07-2014 01:15 PM
by Steve
1 351
New to the business
jcurr33
11-05-2014 03:21 PM
11-07-2014 01:11 PM
by Steve
1 404
Lines
Matther777
11-04-2014 02:19 PM
11-07-2014 12:54 PM
by Steve
1 442
hello, new to this site
tonyorwig
10-31-2014 10:49 PM
11-04-2014 02:24 PM
by tonyorwig
3 636
Aloha from Hawaii.
Gary R
11-02-2014 12:44 AM
11-03-2014 03:02 PM
by Steve
1 542
Pavers
crieg122
10-28-2014 03:49 PM
10-31-2014 01:49 PM
by Steve
6 853
Hi Steve From West...
Mr. Mow
10-21-2014 02:59 PM
10-31-2014 12:56 PM
by Steve
5 1,172
Got my first lawn job...
SGL1
06-11-2014 10:19 PM
10-31-2014 10:53 AM
by Max Wagner
30 3,285
» Popular Tags
4wd aerocore apartment bid apartment complex bid billy goat brushcutter bush charge christmas deliquentaccounts ditches employee problems equipment rental estimate exmark ferris first truck foreman georgia gopherhaul gravely holiday how much to charge how to bid husqvarna hydraulic installation introduction jobs kawasaki landscape services lawn lawn care lawn care business podcast lawn care business seo lawn care business show lawn care business website lawn care business website seo lawn care seo lawn care website lawn care website seo managing a lawn care business marketing mowing mr dave mulch mulch price new business ordinance podcast push versus ride redmax reo savannah scag v-ride seo shreaded small engine repair starting a business start up lawn care business steep lawns toro tractor auger trailer trimmer rack truck new used landscape walker won't return wood wright stander rh
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:53 PM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:53 PM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy