Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Business > Trials & Tribulations - The drama of running a business and of life.

Trials & Tribulations - The drama of running a business and of life. It's not as easy as it looks. Running a business is full of drama. Customers, employees, money, family, time. You name it, it's a problem. Share with us your drama and how you handled it.

She's gone ...


Trials & Tribulations - The drama of running a business and of life.

It's not as easy as it looks. Running a business is full of drama. Customers, employees, money, family, time. You name it, it's a problem. Share with us your drama and how you handled it.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #11  
Old 06-16-2010, 05:13 PM
mark123's Avatar
mark123 mark123 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pennsyltucky
Posts: 1,402
Rep Power: 7
mark123 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
What's your view as to why you experienced such a difference between the two mowers?
The Turboforce 40" I believe is an experiment. The blades are short and the deck is small. A smaller circumference on the blades and baffles means a greater angle when something hits it (as a circle's circumference approaches infinity the circle itself approaches a straight line and vice versa). Also, the spindle housings are huge and only leave about 2" between them and the baffles. There is just not enough room under there and it gets packed and does nothing but throw clumps and a massive blanket of clippings.



Quote:
Originally Posted by justin_time View Post
Sounds like my zero turn mower, i can't beleive how much gets stuck on the deck. I have to clean it 2x a day sometimes depends how wet it is
2x a day? You're lucky! I had to clean this thing out 5x per lawn. No joking! What sort of mower is your zero turn?
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #12  
Old 06-16-2010, 08:09 PM
justin_time justin_time is offline
Justin
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: French River, ON, Canada
Age: 29
Posts: 1,801
Rep Power: 0
justin_time is on a distinguished road
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
Quote:
Originally Posted by mark123 View Post

2x a day? You're lucky! I had to clean this thing out 5x per lawn. No joking! What sort of mower is your zero turn?
Husqvarna 21 hp 48 inch deck Tunnelram deck
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 06-18-2010, 10:48 PM
mark123's Avatar
mark123 mark123 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pennsyltucky
Posts: 1,402
Rep Power: 7
mark123 is on a distinguished road
Default

Toro is bringing me a 36" to test on my worst lawn. If it doesn't make a mess like the 40" did I may take it home. However, I'd really, really love to move up to a 52".
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 06-22-2010, 07:03 PM
mark123's Avatar
mark123 mark123 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pennsyltucky
Posts: 1,402
Rep Power: 7
mark123 is on a distinguished road
Default

The Toro rep brought me a Turboforce 36 to try today. I purposely abused it so that it would make a mess. It had rained this morning and was sprinkling during the demo, the grass was extra tall and weedy and I lowered the deck too low (2.5") for the turf type and conditions. Even with this blatant attempt to skew the results the 36" performed like a mower should. I took it home with me.

I did return to the lawn raised the deck up to 3" and finished the lawn. This mower is faster than the 40", probably due to it being a few pounds lighter and it has a 16HP engine while the 40" had a 15HP engine. Even with losing 4" of mower width I believe the extra speed will compensate.

The deck had a little bit of grass under it but it was not completely packed full like the 40" after 5 or 6 passes. So far I'm pleased with the 36".
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 06-23-2010, 12:14 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 37,149
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Is there any chance this mower was treated with something to keep the grass from sticking to the underside of the deck or is it simply better designed?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 06-23-2010, 03:59 PM
mark123's Avatar
mark123 mark123 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pennsyltucky
Posts: 1,402
Rep Power: 7
mark123 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
Is there any chance this mower was treated with something to keep the grass from sticking to the underside of the deck or is it simply better designed?
Actually, before I returned the 40" I treated it with Fluid-film and used it for a week along with every style of blade available. The Fluid-film didn't prevent any buildup but it did make cleaning it out very easy. Just put your hand under there and wipe it off.

I wish I had taken some photos of the underside of the 40". There is no room under there. It's a 3 blade design and the spindle housings are 9.375" in diameter leaving only 2" between the spindle housings and the baffles. Add to that the short diameter of the baffles and you've got a real problem under there.

The 36" is a two blade design and there is just so much more room for air to move under there.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 06-24-2010, 11:07 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 37,149
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Who would have thunk the 36" would have more room for air to move than the 40" deck! Very fascinating!
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 05-27-2011, 10:57 PM
mark123's Avatar
mark123 mark123 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Pennsyltucky
Posts: 1,402
Rep Power: 7
mark123 is on a distinguished road
Default

I hate to bring up this old topic but it's just too funny. I was looking at a few new mowers at my local Toro shop and the sales man said "you should look at this mower, it's the cream of the crop, top of the line, used but only has around 100 hours on it".

I looked at it and said "I know. It's the one I brought back because it sucks!" HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH. It was the 40" Turboforce I had returned last year.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 05-28-2011, 07:01 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 37,149
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

LOL aint that something!
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 05-28-2011, 07:43 AM
bruces bruces is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 828
Rep Power: 0
bruces is on a distinguished road
Default

that just shows that the dealer [or at least the salesman ] is a slime ball liar thats not worth dealing with .
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
I'm Back With The Best...
aduttonater
02-21-2015 12:41 AM
Today 09:21 PM
by aduttonater
17 1,082
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
01-11-2015 10:41 AM
Today 09:17 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
38 4,200
Help create a new lawn...
dlc7101
Today 07:24 PM
Today 07:24 PM
by dlc7101
0 23
hello
oasis_greenscapes
Today 06:18 PM
Today 06:18 PM
by oasis_greenscapes
0 16
Please share video on...
Sprinkler Buddy
Today 02:59 PM
Today 02:59 PM
by Sprinkler Buddy
0 25
First big mower decision?
SGL1
03-28-2015 08:58 AM
Today 02:35 PM
by SGL1
19 347
Trailer flooring...
Pattersonllc
Yesterday 02:40 PM
Today 02:06 PM
by SGL1
6 99
Covering a landscape...
Dan Tanner
03-29-2015 09:01 AM
Today 01:51 PM
by Steve
13 248
Staff at school give me...
LawnCareMan280
Yesterday 09:00 PM
Today 01:39 PM
by Steve
1 158
New to the site
tl757
Yesterday 07:30 PM
Today 01:36 PM
by Steve
1 56
Billing methods
jcurr33
03-26-2015 01:33 PM
Today 01:24 PM
by Steve
10 332
How do you get...
ESREVER
03-25-2015 01:30 PM
Today 01:14 PM
by Steve
11 316
Snow removal contracts
CDLAWNCARE
Yesterday 02:57 PM
Today 12:50 PM
by Steve
1 76
Engine question
Blue Star Lawn Care
03-30-2015 09:47 PM
Today 06:51 AM
by Just for Cuts
4 106
Commercial Jobs
CurbAppeal1
03-25-2015 04:22 PM
Yesterday 11:16 PM
by CurbAppeal1
11 361
Flag or no flag
Matther777
03-24-2015 02:41 PM
Yesterday 08:05 PM
by shadrach
11 434
landscape insurance
clarkslawn
03-30-2015 10:14 PM
Yesterday 02:14 PM
by Steve
1 87
Dethatching attachments
jcurr33
03-29-2015 08:56 PM
Yesterday 01:50 PM
by Steve
3 123
Tree Service
Yard Elements
09-10-2011 08:19 PM
Yesterday 01:39 PM
by Steve
25 8,659
Hydro oil
googus
03-30-2015 06:45 AM
Yesterday 05:42 AM
by mac83
3 100
35,000 Eddm
greenscaper123
03-18-2015 12:51 PM
03-30-2015 10:51 PM
by SC93
22 666
Employee job training...
brookline
12-15-2014 07:15 PM
03-30-2015 07:39 PM
by SGL1
30 2,504
Finally got a warehouse
avetslawncare
03-12-2015 07:52 PM
03-30-2015 07:36 PM
by SGL1
16 642
Ferris FW35 questions
Chilehead
03-10-2015 08:31 PM
03-30-2015 07:08 PM
by Dan Tanner
7 458
Bid for large home...
lxarth
03-22-2015 11:06 AM
03-30-2015 07:03 PM
by avetslawncare
11 460
Start LIKING FACEBOOK...
rlclawncare123
02-26-2015 12:06 AM
03-30-2015 02:07 PM
by Steve
4 471
Trepidation about...
michellemarvin
03-23-2015 07:46 PM
03-30-2015 01:40 PM
by Steve
3 242
I lost a long term...
Sprinkler Buddy
09-04-2011 02:24 PM
03-30-2015 01:36 PM
by Steve
16 3,538
bidding a cemetery....
NPM_LLC
03-28-2015 10:56 AM
03-29-2015 01:18 PM
by jrs.landscaping
5 202
Weed and Feed
robkattankate
03-19-2015 09:00 PM
03-29-2015 08:42 AM
by Dan Tanner
5 696
Mower vs lot size advice
jcurr33
03-25-2015 09:29 PM
03-28-2015 08:37 AM
by Dan Tanner
5 249
hoa bid need help
bigdaveha12
03-24-2015 08:29 PM
03-27-2015 11:17 PM
by lxarth
6 331
introducing myself
chris2500hd
03-24-2015 11:16 AM
03-27-2015 02:02 PM
by Steve
8 292
Office Administration...
Girlfriend
03-26-2015 05:40 PM
03-26-2015 05:40 PM
by Girlfriend
0 1,101
Is this tree beyond help?
SGL1
03-22-2015 05:35 PM
03-25-2015 08:55 PM
by SGL1
14 1,523
Opinions on truck wrap
Trupro
02-28-2015 03:21 PM
03-25-2015 07:54 PM
by Trupro
33 1,668
The New Wave!!!! Read...
Jamesw86
03-22-2015 08:33 PM
03-25-2015 02:50 PM
by Steve
10 379
grass in the gas tank
robkattankate
03-23-2015 04:37 PM
03-25-2015 02:36 PM
by Steve
5 263
Helping others
hansenslawncare
09-15-2011 08:50 PM
03-25-2015 02:33 PM
by Steve
11 2,728
DOT Number
acrajchel
03-20-2015 05:56 PM
03-25-2015 02:28 PM
by Steve
7 657
Michelin x tweel.
apmAkron
03-23-2015 04:22 PM
03-24-2015 12:40 PM
by Steve
3 173
spike aerator???
Bradcook21
03-21-2015 01:55 PM
03-24-2015 10:32 AM
by acrajchel
4 277
Hello from Maryland
michellemarvin
03-23-2015 12:44 PM
03-23-2015 07:33 PM
by michellemarvin
2 201
hello from south GA.
CCandALawnCare
03-23-2015 03:46 AM
03-23-2015 07:06 PM
by CCandALawnCare
2 168
Say Hello !!!
Steve
03-19-2007 11:18 AM
03-23-2015 06:14 PM
by jethro
1,218 380,773
Is anyone doing mosquito...
BWild
01-27-2015 11:30 AM
03-23-2015 12:28 PM
by Steve
9 921
Should i take on this...
christw
03-17-2013 01:23 PM
03-22-2015 09:02 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
36 7,670
mower stalls when...
boog
03-19-2015 08:20 AM
03-21-2015 08:13 PM
by Wolf4dk
7 322
Hello Emily Reyes from...
Webster14829
03-20-2015 11:23 AM
03-20-2015 03:36 PM
by Steve
2 217
Finally going to give it...
jcurr33
03-12-2015 08:09 PM
03-20-2015 03:31 PM
by Steve
10 613
» Popular Tags
ad landscaping aerocore apartment bid apartment lawn care estimate applying auger billy goat brushcutter bush commercial contract help curb appeal services deliquentaccounts demonstration design ditches door hangers employee problems equipment rental estimate facebook foreman google gravely growing a lawn care business how to husqvarna introduction jobs john deere quik trac landscape services lawn lawn care lawn care busines plan lawn care business seo lawn care business website lawn care business website seo lawn care seo lawn care website lawn care website seo lawn mowing managing a lawn care business marketing marketing secrets mulch new mower patio install per hour service pricing pto secrets to landscaping seo shell shreaded snow plowing sq ft starting a lawn care business steep lawns theft toro toro grand stand tractor auger trailer trailer mate pro up sell employee web design website website design winterization wood wright stander rh
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:37 PM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:37 PM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy