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Here's an alternative for all of you gasoline hogs. Lehr produces a full line of yard care equipment that runs on propane. They're four stroke, so no more mixing gas and oil. It's a lot cleaner, and since most of the propane used in this country is made here, it reduces our dependency on foreign suppliers. They use common camping propane bottles, and, with an adapter you can refill them from your common large propane grill tank. Go to http://www.golehr.com and check it out. Go green or be left behind choking in your own fumes.

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Here's an alternative for all of you gasoline hogs. Lehr produces a full line of yard care equipment that runs on propane. They're four stroke, so no more mixing gas and oil. It's a lot cleaner, and since most of the propane used in this country is made here, it reduces our dependency on foreign suppliers. They use common camping propane bottles, and, with an adapter you can refill them from your common large propane grill tank. Go to http://www.golehr.com and check it out. Go green or be left behind choking in your own fumes.
That is only partially true, Propane is made from Natural Gas and Petroleum, Canada is the biggest supplier to the USA of both and the USA imports 67% of it's fuel consumption. I don't consider Propane a Green product, after all it is made from fossil fuel.
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Go to the website. You'll find out that we produce 85% here. And, it's a HELL of a lot less polluting.
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What Andy mentioned was that the US imports the materials to produce propane. The US may very well produce 85% of its own propane.

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We run diesel in every mower we have, they all burn clean diesel, low sulfer, when we compare diesel, gasoline, and propane regarding their efficiency, It is in here where diesel is more efficient than gas for a comparable engine displacement; you will get more power from a diesel, and about 20% or more in fuel economy, than a gasoline engine. On the other hand, propane, although it burns very cleanly, gives about a 25% loss of power, and efficiency, under gas.
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It's still a HELL of a lot less polluting than gasoline. I understand that it might not reduce our imports of oil. But, if the alternative is gasoline, propane seems like a much better choice. Personally, I'm using battery products from Worx. I'm just saying that there are better choices available. You really don't believe that "clean diesel" bull, do you? That's just a marketing ploy. Diesel is more polluting than gasoline. I know it's a matter of economics. Any large equipment operation MUST use diesel for economy. That's not the people I'm talking to. I'm speaking to the average yard care operations that do work for your average home owner. Not the people who do golf courses.

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by all means, if you want to buy me all new propane equipment to replace my gas equipment, be my guest
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When your old two stroke motor breaks down you might consider replacing it with something that's cleaner and more reliable. How many times have you had to pull on that cord just to start that thing? A lot of people might see this as an edge. When you can offer a cleaner alternative, you will see more people become interested in your service. Or, you can stick with what you're using now and see your customers switch to a service that has more to offer. I'm just saying there's a lot of competition out there. To distinguish yourself as a cleaner alternative is something a lot of customers will find attractive. In any competitive business it is to your advantage to stand out in a crowd. There are a lot of people out there concerned with reducing their carbon footprint. Why not take advantage of it? It makes them feel better about themselves, and gives you more business. Sounds like a win win situation to me. For less than a grand you can get the self propelled mower, the blower/vacuum/mulcher, the expandable trimmer and some attachments. The prices are comparable to gas equipment, start easier, and are more reliable. Sounds like a good investment to me.
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Do you do anything to promote this to your customers? Do you leverage this and use it to stand out from competitors?
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I'm currently using battery products by Worx. My customers love it. I'm just trying to bring a cleaner alternative than gasoline to the awareness of others here. A lot of people have a problem with the limitations of battery products. I can understand that. I'm just pointing out that there are better alternatives to gasoline available.
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