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04-21-2010, 07:02 PM
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I am doing an excavation job in an area with no cell, I think due to the high voltage power lines so my blackberry is pretty quiet Anyhow I had 9 phone inquiries today, I listened to them on the way home, one shocked me, it was the school board for our city wanting a quote on lawn care, I think it strange as this would have to go for tender but the man sounded pretty agitated with the current provider and I know them well as we have taken a few of their accounts. As much as it hurts, I am going to have to pass, I know the company that does it uses 4 trucks, three WAM's and a pile of ZTR and puch mowers. Adding another 16 employees doesn't interest me, this company is already putting me in a situation where I have become an office manager which I don't like and won't do, I told my son today if I have to I will simply downsize.
Good account for someone though.
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04-21-2010, 09:16 PM
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Ya I hear ya, sometimes growing pains hurt. I don't know all of your situation, but I would sure HATE to turn something like that down. If I was in a situation like that one, I'd tell them I need the first 4 months payment in advance and then go out and buy some equipment. Man I bet that's gonna be quite a chunk of $$ for you to lose, but if you're not happy, don't do it. That's what I love about this business, if it makes you happy do it, if it doesn't, pass it on.
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04-21-2010, 09:20 PM
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I'll be there in 2 days or whatever how much time it takes for me to get my mowers and equipement on my trailer and on my way to Halifax
Ha, i wish !
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04-21-2010, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by justin_time
I'll be there in 2 days or whatever how much time it takes for me to get my mowers and equipement on my trailer and on my way to Halifax
Ha, i wish !
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hey neighbour,I was thinking the exact same thing .
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04-21-2010, 10:53 PM
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How's my neighbor doing ? Is he busy yet ??
We should meet up one day and go for coffee.
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04-21-2010, 11:10 PM
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How's my neighbor doing ? Is he busy yet ??
We should meet up one day and go for coffee.
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I am still busy with my winter job,and even though we have had some awesome weather,it still is a little early to get things going . .
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04-22-2010, 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by kdexpd
Ya I hear ya, sometimes growing pains hurt. I don't know all of your situation, but I would sure HATE to turn something like that down. If I was in a situation like that one, I'd tell them I need the first 4 months payment in advance and then go out and buy some equipment. Man I bet that's gonna be quite a chunk of $$ for you to lose, but if you're not happy, don't do it. That's what I love about this business, if it makes you happy do it, if it doesn't, pass it on.
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Money is not the issue in this case or getting equipment, prepayment is not an option with government contracts, the problem is it's a massive account, next week we are back to full staff 17 and I do not want to even be this large, you would nt believe the paper work.
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04-22-2010, 05:06 AM
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Yea they aint given up money till the work is done. On top of all the paper work you have, they will likely add a ton more and probly want it done for less than you would do another job of that size. At least down here they would.
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04-22-2010, 10:53 AM
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I am sure many lawn care business owners will wrestle with this issue as they grow. Do you think there is any rule of thumb as to when to go with a job and when to pass?
I am sure there is money in this job that would certainly make most jump all over it, but there seems to be a downside to having to scale up so quickly.
How can you hold yourself back when presented with something that might be outside your businesses comfort zone?
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04-22-2010, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve
I am sure many lawn care business owners will wrestle with this issue as they grow. Do you think there is any rule of thumb as to when to go with a job and when to pass?
I am sure there is money in this job that would certainly make most jump all over it, but there seems to be a downside to having to scale up so quickly.
How can you hold yourself back when presented with something that might be outside your businesses comfort zone?
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Yes there is money in the job, they are willing to sign a five year contract, subject to performance clause's in the contract which is fine.
We are already as big or bigger than I want to be, I am flattered they called me and we spoke twice today, they seem pretty intent on my taking over but I am honestly not interested, I might be next year but I have to find someone to manage the business as I would rather be out working.
I handle a situation like this by being very straight forward, we started a year ago, we have 16 staff, we have 159 landscaping projects, 196 lawn spraying clients and close to 90 lawn mowing jobs, I simply do not want to expand any further at this time.
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