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Old 03-17-2010, 05:43 PM
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I dont know how at least for me How to get any let alone alot of customers without "lowballing" where I am at I had a choice to let my business hit the gutter of try to beat their price, of coarse if you know a different way?
My company is not that big I can still handle it alone. Yes everyone starts with lower prices, but this is because they don't know any better not because they have to.

Take this into consideration and know your costs:
vehicle: payment, fuel, insurance, registration, maintenance
business: license, insurance, marketing, payroll, health, w.comp (3.49%)
taxes: unemployment (2.7%), income (25%), sales (7%), self employment (15%), fica (7.65% paid per employee and matched by company), fed (.8%)
Equipment: payment, fuel, oil, maintenance, wear items

I'm sure I'm missing a bunch, but you get the idea. This is not an industry just filled with school kids and the parents push mower like some people want to treat it.

I'm considering hiring a couple of guys to run the day to day and just go out and get myself a job.
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You can also battle this with marketing that educates the consumer.

If they hire an uninsured contractor, they can be held liable for any damage that contractor causes to themselves or others.

For instance, use a part of this article in a flyer to promote the dangers of hiring an uninsured contractor and then at the bottom of your flyer you can promote you are fully insured and the proper choice.


Homeowner’s Association & Property Manager Gets Sued Because of Unlicensed Contractor

Here is another example.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...6/ai_n8803392/
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good stuff Steve.
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Hey John, now you know what I deal with in my area..
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John, that is tough and I know it makes our blood boil however what saved us last year and I see it coming again this year is to offer services the others are not and get the equipment to do it. Lawn mowing here is going to be a desperate hard sell again this year, my attitude is if we get it fine, if not such is life, I am not dropping my prices, I simply can't, it's cheaper to leave the mowers at home and do something else.

I have contacted all our mowing clients, we picked up a lot late in the season, all but three will be back, one gentleman was placed in a nursing home and two have moved elsewhere although we will still do their spraying, that leaves us with just over 90 which is fine with me.

I guess we just have to wait them out and let the fold, however there are more new guys coming on this year than I have ever seen, my one advantage is the gear we run and the presentation and condition, we tend to target the upper end and if an old truck or trailer rolls in with gear fit for a junk yard, I know from feedback of clients, the company or person is dumped, some don't care but in my case most do.
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Craigslist.com is a joke.

I'm the only one currently advertising these services, it's very interesting!

Some guy made a post way too early.. didn't even leave a phone number.

Another guy's headline, "VERY CHEAP"... tsk tsk.... At least write, "Inexpensive"... lol

I'm tracing this other guys phone number, trying to figure out where he's coming from.

Stalkerrrr time lmao.
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I'm tracing this other guys phone number, trying to figure out where he's coming from.

Stalkerrrr time lmao.
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Craigslist.com is a joke.

I'm the only one currently advertising these services, it's very interesting!

Some guy made a post way too early.. didn't even leave a phone number.

Another guy's headline, "VERY CHEAP"... tsk tsk.... At least write, "Inexpensive"... lol

I'm tracing this other guys phone number, trying to figure out where he's coming from.

Stalkerrrr time lmao.
Read a CL post other day... guy will use his own chainsaw and brush cutter to clean up your yard and chop up trees for $12 an hour. He also offered pressure washing services. I emailed him for a copy of his insurance and license and he sent me a premium payment coupon from 2008.
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In my area our big problem is saturation. We have SOOOOO many guys out doing this kind of work. I have a day job and probably see 8 - 10 different LCOs out every day on my way to and from work (40 min round trip).

I have found that if someone is looking for the cheapest price, they will find it. My best contacts have come from people I know or know of me. If they want to swap out for a LB, fine with me. I plan on focusing more on commercial this year anyway.
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I'm as annoyed as the next guy.

My area is a place where there isn't enough grass for everyone.

It's really cut throat.

I have 11 undecided customers from last year who are driving me up the wall. I really do NOT have patience, I know it's still early, but damn.

1. Lady wants to hire the guy who does her snow removal.

2. Lady was supposed to sell her house, that didn't work out, yet she still hasn't updated me on the situation & will not contact me. (cheap lady)

3. One customer is too annoying to do, though I called her a few seconds ago just to get what I can, no answer. That's good enough for me. (she pushes her business on me, tries to get me to join a scam)

4. One guy bought a new house not far from me, but his current one didn't sell yet. He has no idea which house he wants me to maintain this season, very frustrating. (I like him, but common frig)

5. One lady has not responded to my phone calls/business card. I left her a message on her machine too.

6. One guy is pretending he hasn't received my flyer or business card, though he said I should call him later tonight.. Probably after he blocks my number. That's the vibe I'm getting.

7. One guy has the title for least expensive lawn, yet he will get back to me in a couple of days. (if he hires me it'll probably be half way through the season, a55head)

8. One guy I'm waiting to get a hold of, & he's never home, not the type of person to give me a call. Ever. I really have to CATCH him to talk.

9. One family friend customer agreed on my services, yet he hung up without giving me the address & now I can't get a hold of him.

10. One customer dropped of the face of the earth.

11. One of them is requesting me to lower my price a good $40.00/month.

I never thought 11 customers would aggravate me so much.

I also hate when they lie, or give false hope.

"I'm for sure with you next season" my arse! Stop making my life complex!

I'd rather them just call & say, "I wont be taking you this season" done! At least then I can get my routes done.
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