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Im lookin in to doin a big job it is a cemetery and its 258 acres with 180000 head stones anyone has a guess how many ppl this would take to do weekly??
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Im lookin in to doin a big job it is a cemetery and its 258 acres with 180000 head stones anyone has a guess how many ppl this would take to do weekly??
Personally four guys on trimmers and two on mowers, maybe three. That is a massive job.
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Personally four guys on trimmers and two on mowers, maybe three. That is a massive job.
yea we can only do 8 hours a day no o/t only 7-4:30 mon-fri... dont you think itd take like at least 15 ppl to do this or no?
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Do you plan on knocking out the whole job in one day?

How many head stones can one of your employees trim per minute?

and what size equipment can u use? can you knock out an acre per hour?
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Do you plan on knocking out the whole job in one day?

How many head stones can one of your employees trim per minute?

and what size equipment can u use? can you knock out an acre per hour?
no its gotta be mon-fri 40 hrs a week.... i would assume 3-4 stones a minute prolly 2 z turn a 60" and a 72" and 2 walk behinds like a 36" and a 54".. idk what i can do per hour there ive nvr done anything like it
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3 stones per min x 60 min = 180 stones per hour
180000 stones / by 180 per hour = 1000 hours for trimming

1000 man hours / by 40 hours a week = 25 guys on trimming 40 hrs/week

If it helps I used to work for a lawn company and we mowed two cemetaries. One bigger than the other. Two man crew. One of us mowed while the other trimmed. On each we spent about the same amount of time trimming as we did mowing.

If it holds true, then I would say 50 people. but you don't have 25 mowers to be running while the trimmers are running. That is a huge area!

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no its gotta be mon-fri 40 hrs a week.... i would assume 3-4 stones a minute prolly 2 z turn a 60" and a 72" and 2 walk behinds like a 36" and a 54".. idk what i can do per hour there ive nvr done anything like it
I guess I would almost have to see it to see how much open area there is, My ZTR has a 72" Deck however I can add Bat wings which is what a neighbour did as he has a few school contracts, I ran into him one morning out walking our dogs and asked what his ZTR will mow per hour with the wings as it's the same as we have except I do not have wings, he said his operator averages around 7 acres per hour however in your case the wings would probably not work for the headstone area.

I read a post a long time ago in another forum where the guy was doing a cemetery, he had bought the Dr. Trimmer which is self propelled, main reason here was efficiency in that the operator would not tire near as fast compared to a regular trimmer, this would increase the number of stones you could do per hour however I have no idea how many it would do but if they are lined up fairly well it would be a lot.

If you have to hire 25 to 50 people the operating costs are going to be very steep, Workers Comp, Pension and Unemployment Insurance here is a major thorn in my side and workers comp is tied not only to gross sales but also to the number of employees. That being said in a case like yours if I won the contract, I would have the equipment lined up that would offer the greatest efficiency for the job, mowers that would just fit between the stones, bat wings for open areas, self propelled trimmers etc.

We drive by this cemetery a few times a week as one of my employees lives two blocks from it, the company that mows it has two ZTR's and I have only ever seen two guys trimming and one walk behind, they do it in a day with five guys, it's 50 acres. Perhaps I should say in all the times I have driven buy I have never seen more than five guys working there unless they are doing the flower beds which are massive, I seem to recall I counted 8 workers in total. They were also using walk behind trimmers which cut a 20" path which I would think would save a lot of mowing time also.

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That is one massive area man.

That's 11,238,480 square feet of lawn to cut!



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I used to work for a lawn company and we mowed two cemetaries. One bigger than the other. Two man crew. One of us mowed while the other trimmed. On each we spent about the same amount of time trimming as we did mowing.
Do you know how big of an area this job was? Or how much they billed for it? How long the job took?
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I wish you luck with the estimate! If you do get it, you can make serious money just from that alone. At least 25 guys working for you just on that job full-time. That's at least 1000 billable hours weekly!
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