Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Lawn Care, Landscaping, and Property Management Forums > Online Lawn Care Estimator - Help me bid this job

Online Lawn Care Estimator - Help me bid this job
If you need help coming up with a bid for a lawn care, landscaping, tree cutting or irrigation job, post the specifics here and pictures of the job site. If you are looking to learn about bidding, review the jobs posted here.

Adjusting to lower prices and


Online Lawn Care Estimator - Help me bid this job

If you need help coming up with a bid for a lawn care, landscaping, tree cutting or irrigation job, post the specifics here and pictures of the job site. If you are looking to learn about bidding, review the jobs posted here.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 02-07-2010, 10:27 PM
XtreemGreen XtreemGreen is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Pasco, Fla
Age: 43
Posts: 429
Rep Power: 6
XtreemGreen is on a distinguished road
Default Adjusting to lower prices and

Accepting it...Since I moved to a new county some 5 years ago, Ive had a real hard time getting a decent ammount of customers..This mainly do to my prices..

My starting price for the standard yard maintenance was $85 per month in the old county I lived in...
In the new county, That price is some $20 higher than the avarage around here..So Ive ended up getting a JOB ad dropping my lawn business...
I gave up my business last September to go full time in the family propane installation business..In the beginning there were hints that I was going to take it over after Dad retired... A year later, I hate the job... Its hit and miss work, pay sucks etc....

We just got a great deal on buying a home and we almost missed our first house payment do to little work for me...

The lawn business I love and always have...Its the #1 thing I know well ad Im good at it...

But in order for me to get enough clients to make decent money, Im going to have to drop prices to compete with everyone else.. YES price is a major thing in this area..
I would love to venture away from this area, but with gas prices and income coming in, I just cant afford to right now...

Bottom line is Im having a hard time accepting that I have to lower prices..

What do you guys think??
__________________


In Memory of My Dad..1943-2008..Gary "Snuffy" Smith
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #2  
Old 02-08-2010, 04:29 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,192
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
This is very interesting. We were having a similar conversation not too long ago about the different prices that can be charged based on the county you live in, in Florida!

One of the things I wonder is if it's worth running the business in another county and keeping your truck parked somewhere in that county. Maybe then commute to it daily with a cheap small car?

Would something like that even be feasible?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-08-2010, 08:54 PM
XtreemGreen XtreemGreen is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Pasco, Fla
Age: 43
Posts: 429
Rep Power: 6
XtreemGreen is on a distinguished road
Default

Well I have a mid size truck... But my thing is, I dont want to be wasting gas driving 20 miles 1 way and not gain any accounts..I know I sound greedy or whatever, but I just cant afford to do that right now..
__________________


In Memory of My Dad..1943-2008..Gary "Snuffy" Smith
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-09-2010, 04:28 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,192
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

I can understand. We all need to be concerned with efficiency.

When I think about conversations we have had on the forum about this topic, it seems that lawn care business owners tend to make more money in an area that has wealthier clients. In more economically depressed areas, lawn care businesses seem to be effected just as any other business would in that area.

Quote:
Since I moved to a new county some 5 years ago, Ive had a real hard time getting a decent ammount of customers..This mainly do to my prices..

My starting price for the standard yard maintenance was $85 per month in the old county I lived in...
In the new county, That price is some $20 higher than the avarage around here..So Ive ended up getting a JOB ad dropping my lawn business...
When you reflect on the current customer base you have now vs the previos group, do you find that the previous group was worth more? Were their houses and property more expensive? Did they earn more money?

Or is the price just cheaper in your current area due to heavier competition?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-09-2010, 07:10 PM
XtreemGreen XtreemGreen is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Pasco, Fla
Age: 43
Posts: 429
Rep Power: 6
XtreemGreen is on a distinguished road
Default

The competition isnt heavier.. I think its just the standard out here..But then again, I havent bid in my old county in 5 years..
__________________


In Memory of My Dad..1943-2008..Gary "Snuffy" Smith
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-10-2010, 03:47 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,192
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Is it possible there are other services you could get into that would bring you higher profits?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-10-2010, 06:44 AM
ProCut TM
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

you can lower your prices to build a bigger client base then go up on the quotes as you grow. you can also raise prices a bit every year (although I have not raise most of mine in 2 years, due to the economy and fear of losing them over a few bucks)

most people in pinellas charge $75 or $80 per month and I've seen signs for $15 per cuts but most guys are $20 or $25
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-10-2010, 07:02 AM
picframer's Avatar
picframer picframer is offline
Andy
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 2,885
Rep Power: 9
picframer will become famous soon enough
Default

Another way to look at this and we have done it to get our foot in the door to a new area or a target area is drop the price on the first few, do an outstanding job then ask for referrals. I guess in a way it's a cost of doing business however if other residents all of a sudden see you in the area and I assume you have lettering on your truck and trailers, my experience people will stop.

In a few cases if I feel a prospect is testing the waters, I cut to the chase, what is it you do not like about your current provider? May I ask what their ballpark rate is so that we do not waste each others time. I look for things that we can do that are not being done and the majority of the time the prospect has something, I hone in on this as a service we offer, chances are the current provider doesn't add, upsell the value added by hiring you.
__________________
Andy
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-10-2010, 04:20 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,192
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Quote:
and the majority of the time the prospect has something, I hone in on this as a service we offer, chances are the current provider doesn't add, upsell the value added by hiring you.
Can you tell us a little more what you mean by this?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 02-10-2010, 04:40 PM
picframer's Avatar
picframer picframer is offline
Andy
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 2,885
Rep Power: 9
picframer will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
Can you tell us a little more what you mean by this?
It seems for the most part companies only offer one service, very few offer for example, lawn mowing, gutter cleaning and pressure washing, they may know of a company that does.

So if you invite me to quote on a service and your body language tells me I might be high, I will quickly scope for a service we can do the others can't and I find something every time, could be those two large rocks sticking up through your lawn, a stump that needs to be removed, OMG your deck could use a cleaning, how about the moss in your pavers, that tree would be an issue for the power line in a big storm, do you know we can turn your lawn around using 100% certified Organic products that are pet and family safe?

And the list goes on, I will find something you want done and I know who my competition is and what they can do, I am to be a one stop shop.
__________________
Andy
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
One blade cutting lower hurtadolawncare Outdoor Power Equipment Discussion, Repairs, Buy or Sell 3 07-26-2008 11:15 AM
Hourly Prices? and Acre Prices? Paradise Lawn and Pool General Business Discussions 0 03-10-2008 09:02 AM

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Echo PE 266 edger
stevef1201
07-01-2014 01:28 PM
Yesterday 10:14 PM
by WesleySnips
5 327
Spreading Weeds?
WesleySnips
Yesterday 09:46 PM
Yesterday 09:54 PM
by Just for Cuts
1 27
Left handed edging with...
SGL1
07-23-2014 08:59 PM
Yesterday 09:29 PM
by Just for Cuts
14 287
Building credit
Matther777
Yesterday 05:20 PM
Yesterday 05:20 PM
by Matther777
0 37
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
03-22-2014 09:12 AM
Yesterday 01:21 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
80 4,602
Texas lawn care company...
Livingston Lawn Care
07-25-2014 11:29 AM
Yesterday 08:16 AM
by Just for Cuts
7 165
need some help geting...
dalvan0
07-13-2014 09:28 PM
07-26-2014 04:39 PM
by BLC7
7 314
Have you ever had to...
SouthernRootsLawnCare
07-26-2014 02:41 PM
07-26-2014 04:29 PM
by BLC7
1 73
From Concord NC
SouthernRootsLawnCare
07-26-2014 02:34 PM
07-26-2014 02:34 PM
by SouthernRootsLawnCare
0 34
New from Texas
Livingston Lawn Care
07-25-2014 11:17 AM
07-26-2014 08:10 AM
by Livingston Lawn Care
2 105
new trailer help
mattthelawnguy
07-11-2014 08:21 PM
07-25-2014 06:31 PM
by mattthelawnguy
13 471
Echo Edger 'Neutral'
WesleySnips
07-25-2014 05:28 PM
07-25-2014 05:58 PM
by Just for Cuts
1 84
Single tree, mow customer
WesleySnips
06-27-2014 10:12 AM
07-25-2014 05:43 PM
by WesleySnips
13 598
You know it;s gonna be a...
stevef1201
07-25-2014 08:50 AM
07-25-2014 01:34 PM
by Steve
1 92
Customer letters
kslawn
07-23-2014 06:17 AM
07-25-2014 01:20 PM
by Steve
5 198
Got my first lawn job...
SGL1
06-11-2014 09:19 PM
07-24-2014 07:09 PM
by SGL1
29 1,253
Need help determining...
Jbss861
07-20-2014 02:33 PM
07-24-2014 01:11 PM
by Steve
13 375
Should I ?
googus
07-22-2014 04:06 PM
07-24-2014 12:10 PM
by Steve
4 213
My First Apartment...
SSLCtn
05-26-2014 10:17 PM
07-24-2014 06:46 AM
by kslawn
15 911
Crop Rotation Techniques...
eastsidelandcare
07-17-2014 03:47 PM
07-24-2014 06:38 AM
by kslawn
3 214
Selling lawns like...
eastsidelandcare
07-17-2014 03:51 PM
07-24-2014 06:28 AM
by kslawn
3 272
Scag new "Eliminator"......
ExtremeLawncareServices
07-20-2014 10:45 AM
07-23-2014 05:37 PM
by Just for Cuts
9 300
need professional advice...
Fiddlers_green
07-20-2014 07:21 PM
07-23-2014 12:42 PM
by Steve
3 208
new to me box truck
jrayb39667
03-06-2014 10:20 PM
07-23-2014 12:40 PM
by Steve
15 1,399
Lawn Service back in...
LawnCareMan280
07-18-2014 09:00 PM
07-23-2014 11:48 AM
by Steve
4 246
Overspray?
stevef1201
07-21-2014 04:20 PM
07-23-2014 11:39 AM
by Steve
3 152
Hello Everyone! Newbie...
SLKlawn
07-17-2014 06:22 PM
07-22-2014 01:53 PM
by Steve
6 288
Proper height for lawn
rob lederhilger
05-26-2014 08:01 AM
07-21-2014 02:53 PM
by LawnDoctor
9 669
Blade sharpener
Just for Cuts
07-04-2014 12:31 PM
07-21-2014 01:48 PM
by Steve
9 509
What's my business worth?
Chaz
07-16-2014 01:35 PM
07-21-2014 01:45 PM
by Steve
4 297
1.5 Acre Jungle
WesleySnips
07-15-2014 05:57 PM
07-20-2014 11:31 AM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
21 606
Gopher schedule software
Ray
07-18-2014 04:13 PM
07-18-2014 04:13 PM
by Ray
0 191
2006 Chevy fuel pump...
KevinsLawns
07-17-2014 08:39 PM
07-18-2014 11:51 AM
by Steve
1 186
Halfway point of year!
Steve
07-01-2014 12:08 PM
07-18-2014 11:38 AM
by Steve
14 741
I got told to leave and...
gwilson98
06-16-2014 02:07 PM
07-17-2014 11:43 AM
by Steve
16 1,060
Hey guys this is the...
prmenter@gmail.com
07-07-2014 08:23 PM
07-16-2014 08:10 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
28 787
Mowing the hills
prmenter@gmail.com
07-08-2014 12:22 PM
07-16-2014 05:00 PM
by Just for Cuts
18 711
Say Hello !!!
Steve
03-19-2007 11:18 AM
07-15-2014 05:38 PM
by icon2000
1,184 320,483
Classified Ad Template...
bcfb
06-05-2013 02:40 AM
07-15-2014 11:16 AM
by Steve
15 3,730
Husqvarna pz 60
CDLAWNCARE
07-06-2014 06:50 PM
07-15-2014 08:53 AM
by kslawn
10 462
Lowballers
Chaz
07-11-2014 03:55 PM
07-14-2014 12:27 PM
by Steve
5 379
My new side job
Sprinkler Buddy
05-10-2014 05:23 AM
07-14-2014 12:15 PM
by Steve
10 836
Illegal spraying
GoGreenerKS
07-04-2014 09:11 AM
07-13-2014 10:36 PM
by GoGreenerKS
10 574
New Mower and Trailer
Chaz
06-25-2014 12:04 PM
07-13-2014 06:25 PM
by SGL1
7 584
What Fertilizer to Use?
acrajchel
04-07-2014 01:56 PM
07-12-2014 07:36 PM
by SGL1
21 1,905
Fuel and fuel additives
SGL1
07-06-2014 10:23 AM
07-11-2014 07:53 PM
by SGL1
15 572
Questions for a patchy...
jumcgee
07-09-2014 08:42 AM
07-11-2014 12:34 PM
by Steve
1 232
toro proline blades wont...
boog
06-25-2014 06:26 PM
07-11-2014 05:28 AM
by kslawn
18 673
Contents of Marketing to...
prmenter@gmail.com
07-09-2014 05:25 PM
07-10-2014 03:23 PM
by Steve
3 327
Shindaiwa
CLB454
05-13-2014 09:04 PM
07-10-2014 03:04 PM
by Steve
14 810
» Popular Tags
4wd 34'' advertisement article marketing auger bid blades butterfly gardens charge credit card customers exmark ferris financing first truck georgia gopherhaul grass gravely growing a lawn care business health holiday holiday decorating how much to charge john deere quik trac kansas city lawn lawn care lawn care business book lawn care business podcast lawn care business seo lawn care business show lawn care business website lawn care business website seo lawn care website lawn care website seo leaf lighting marketing mechanic monthly mow mulch mulch price new and restored landscapes new buisness new business organize payment podcast property management company pto savannah scag schedule scripts seo social media starting a business start up lawn care business stihl theft toro toro grand stand trailer tree care trimmer rack walker winter winter services
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:18 AM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:18 AM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy