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Accepting it...Since I moved to a new county some 5 years ago, Ive had a real hard time getting a decent ammount of customers..This mainly do to my prices..

My starting price for the standard yard maintenance was $85 per month in the old county I lived in...
In the new county, That price is some $20 higher than the avarage around here..So Ive ended up getting a JOB ad dropping my lawn business...
I gave up my business last September to go full time in the family propane installation business..In the beginning there were hints that I was going to take it over after Dad retired... A year later, I hate the job... Its hit and miss work, pay sucks etc....

We just got a great deal on buying a home and we almost missed our first house payment do to little work for me...

The lawn business I love and always have...Its the #1 thing I know well ad Im good at it...

But in order for me to get enough clients to make decent money, Im going to have to drop prices to compete with everyone else.. YES price is a major thing in this area..
I would love to venture away from this area, but with gas prices and income coming in, I just cant afford to right now...

Bottom line is Im having a hard time accepting that I have to lower prices..

What do you guys think??
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This is very interesting. We were having a similar conversation not too long ago about the different prices that can be charged based on the county you live in, in Florida!

One of the things I wonder is if it's worth running the business in another county and keeping your truck parked somewhere in that county. Maybe then commute to it daily with a cheap small car?

Would something like that even be feasible?
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Well I have a mid size truck... But my thing is, I dont want to be wasting gas driving 20 miles 1 way and not gain any accounts..I know I sound greedy or whatever, but I just cant afford to do that right now..
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I can understand. We all need to be concerned with efficiency.

When I think about conversations we have had on the forum about this topic, it seems that lawn care business owners tend to make more money in an area that has wealthier clients. In more economically depressed areas, lawn care businesses seem to be effected just as any other business would in that area.

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Since I moved to a new county some 5 years ago, Ive had a real hard time getting a decent ammount of customers..This mainly do to my prices..

My starting price for the standard yard maintenance was $85 per month in the old county I lived in...
In the new county, That price is some $20 higher than the avarage around here..So Ive ended up getting a JOB ad dropping my lawn business...
When you reflect on the current customer base you have now vs the previos group, do you find that the previous group was worth more? Were their houses and property more expensive? Did they earn more money?

Or is the price just cheaper in your current area due to heavier competition?
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The competition isnt heavier.. I think its just the standard out here..But then again, I havent bid in my old county in 5 years..
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Is it possible there are other services you could get into that would bring you higher profits?
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you can lower your prices to build a bigger client base then go up on the quotes as you grow. you can also raise prices a bit every year (although I have not raise most of mine in 2 years, due to the economy and fear of losing them over a few bucks)

most people in pinellas charge $75 or $80 per month and I've seen signs for $15 per cuts but most guys are $20 or $25
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Another way to look at this and we have done it to get our foot in the door to a new area or a target area is drop the price on the first few, do an outstanding job then ask for referrals. I guess in a way it's a cost of doing business however if other residents all of a sudden see you in the area and I assume you have lettering on your truck and trailers, my experience people will stop.

In a few cases if I feel a prospect is testing the waters, I cut to the chase, what is it you do not like about your current provider? May I ask what their ballpark rate is so that we do not waste each others time. I look for things that we can do that are not being done and the majority of the time the prospect has something, I hone in on this as a service we offer, chances are the current provider doesn't add, upsell the value added by hiring you.
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Can you tell us a little more what you mean by this?
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Can you tell us a little more what you mean by this?
It seems for the most part companies only offer one service, very few offer for example, lawn mowing, gutter cleaning and pressure washing, they may know of a company that does.

So if you invite me to quote on a service and your body language tells me I might be high, I will quickly scope for a service we can do the others can't and I find something every time, could be those two large rocks sticking up through your lawn, a stump that needs to be removed, OMG your deck could use a cleaning, how about the moss in your pavers, that tree would be an issue for the power line in a big storm, do you know we can turn your lawn around using 100% certified Organic products that are pet and family safe?

And the list goes on, I will find something you want done and I know who my competition is and what they can do, I am to be a one stop shop.
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