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Online Lawn Care Estimator - Help me bid this job

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Old 01-26-2010, 07:12 PM
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Sorry Steve, truthfully, I would rather not post the bidding sheet. I don't want any legal entanglments with the company. You never know. Even if I covered up the contact info. I think they were just trying to get an idea of how big/small we are.

Well, the bid sheet was due today. I am wondering if I was the only one that they contacted, because when I hadn't turned it in by 5:00 PM, the guy called me and asked me if I was bidding.

I had asked him if he would still consider us since we were so small, and he said yes (not that I know if he was lying or not).

Having a contract as a bid may be a good idea. But how do you do that with everyone's prices being different? Do you go by measurement of the property for grass cutting, mulching, etc. That's how I do it. Everyone's prices aren't the same. Or do you just change a few things per each contract? I don't do contracts for residential because that shows me that they like what I do and want me to come back each week. I like to keep my customers satisfied.

In the past, I have dealt with commercial and know pretty much how to run the business around that. I've dealt with a lot of people (that kept telling me that I should start my own business), the only thing I'm not too sure of is pricing. So, I'm probably one of those lowballers!

Being a girl, doing the job makes it harder too because people look at me, and then they think I can't do it. I have to show them what I'm capable of. And they try to push the prices down. So what I've learned to do was tell people that my crew will be out to do the job, then I just go out and do it. I love doing landscaping and making a hobby a job/business is even better.

I appreciate all the input you have all given me. Thank you.
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Well, the bid sheet was due today. I am wondering if I was the only one that they contacted, because when I hadn't turned it in by 5:00 PM, the guy called me and asked me if I was bidding.

I had asked him if he would still consider us since we were so small, and he said yes (not that I know if he was lying or not).
Did you ultimately hand it in? Keep us posted on how it all goes.

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Having a contract as a bid may be a good idea. But how do you do that with everyone's prices being different? Do you go by measurement of the property for grass cutting, mulching, etc. That's how I do it.
You need to in order to keep a level of consistency in you bidding. Otherwise you may find some jobs make you money and some jobs lose you money.
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Thats why I use my contract to bid. I have a proposal sheet that I got from another guy but they are vague. If I have my bid in a contract then they can compair apples to apples. They say well so and so is 300 a month less than you. Well lets see if we are offering the same service. Never ask if they will hire you if your small. Just let them think you got at least 2 guy's that help. This is why I wont go bid withmy trailer. I just take the truck as if I'm supervising. If you dont get the bid, ask them what the winning bid was. The watch the new contractor to see how long it takes them. Times those hours by the number of guy's. Then devide the bid number by th number of cuts a year. Then by the total man hours and that should give a base hr rate.

3000 a month. 3 guys 1 day. 3000x12 months is 36000. 36000 devided by 52 visits is 693 a week. 693 devided by24 man hours is 28.87 per man hour would be the winning bid
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That is very interesting! What is the benefit of doing this? So you can compare and contrast your prices with those of the winning bid?

Is it also important to do this so you can bid better next year on the job?

Or how does doing all this help you?
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Yes, I turned in the bid, but only the first part. The guy said that there were two parts to the bid. The first part was to see what we can offer (as far as being able to do the work), and the second part is the actual bidding. I haven't gotten an email from him yet, so i don't know if he looked over what I sent in or not.

If I get the jobs, then that would help me tremendously! I need work. That's why I wanted to work on advertising more this year. I just want to be careful that I don't bite off more than I can chew.

Everything is so expensive, especially insurance.

I don't have a problem hiring anyone, because there are lots of people on unemployment that want a job.

How do some of you all do your bidding? I know that if they want to know how much I'm going to charge for each place, I'm going to have to go out to each place and measure everything: grass areas, sidewalks, roadways/parking lots, bed areas, etc. to give the right price. Is there an easier way to do this?
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Yes, I turned in the bid, but only the first part. The guy said that there were two parts to the bid. The first part was to see what we can offer (as far as being able to do the work), and the second part is the actual bidding.
What was your view on why you only handed in the first part?

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How do some of you all do your bidding? I know that if they want to know how much I'm going to charge for each place, I'm going to have to go out to each place and measure everything: grass areas, sidewalks, roadways/parking lots, bed areas, etc. to give the right price. Is there an easier way to do this?
That is the best way. You can get a surveyors wheel to help you measure the distances better.



But if you don't get this down to a science, your bids will be all over the place and they will lack a consistent level of profit that you need to grow.
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I only handed in the first part, because that's all he gave me. I guess he's going to look it over to see what I can do for him, and then send me the second part if he sees it fit. Hmmm?? I've never did bidding for a commercial company before (well, not my own on everything). I have to wait for him to email me the second part to fill it out and send it back.

I've bidded on small jobs for a commerical company before where I worked. It was just like storm clean up, or tree removal, installing a new bed, etc. Just small stuff. This is something I would have to do in parts and then put everything together. I think I'm more overwhelmed than anything.

As far as the surveyor wheel, that's what I use for measuring everything. I measure the lawn areas, bed areas, sidewalks, roadways, parking lots, etc. It's great, and mine has a kickstand so I can stop and write (pretty cool!)

Thank you for your input, I greatly appreciate it!
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Ok, it's been about 3 days since I handed in the first part of this bid. The guy hasn't sent me the second part yet either to fill out and send back.

Should I wait about a week or two and call him? I am wondering if he even looked at it yet. Just asking for future references. Don't know exactly what to do. Wait and not say anything, or wait and call?

He is supposed to be sending the part where I give him prices for my services. Don't know what he's doing. I don't want to call because I don't want to sound desperate to him for the job.

Any suggestions???

I don't want to screw this up or be a pest.

Thank you in advance.
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I'd say follow up and ask him for it. It shows you are interested in getting the job.

Who's to say if you will or you won't but even if you simply make this a dry run practice of it, it will help you for your next commercial bid that is right around the corner.

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I had a hard time finding this post again.

How come when I typed in my name in the search, it said "mortonslawn is on a distinguished road....". Why does it say that?
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