Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Business > General Business Discussions

General Business Discussions A place to talk about general business discussions.

Overhead!!


General Business Discussions

A place to talk about general business discussions.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 01-18-2010, 05:23 PM
bnclawncare bnclawncare is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 68
Rep Power: 6
bnclawncare is on a distinguished road
Default Overhead!!

I am looking for a "template" or preferably an 'Excel worksheet" that I can use to calculate my overhead expences. Does anyone have a sheet that automaticly calculates this when you enter in the numbers and that is willing to share? Thanks in advance.
__________________

www.bnclawncare.com
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #2  
Old 01-18-2010, 05:41 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,307
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
Are you trying to figure this out by the month or down to the hour?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 01-18-2010, 08:00 PM
picframer's Avatar
picframer picframer is offline
Andy
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 2,885
Rep Power: 9
picframer will become famous soon enough
Default

In accounting Overhead refers to "all non-labor expenses required to operate your business. These expenses are either fixed or variable" Maybe you could give us a little more insight into what you are trying to achieve. Are you running accounting software like Quick Books or Simply Accounting? If so, you can generate these reports anytime you wish, brake them down, export to excel for analysis etc.
__________________
Andy
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 01-18-2010, 08:14 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,307
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

why is labor not included in overhead?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 01-18-2010, 08:45 PM
picframer's Avatar
picframer picframer is offline
Andy
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 2,885
Rep Power: 9
picframer will become famous soon enough
Default

Overhead refers generally to the ongoing administrative expenses of your business which cannot be attributed to any specific business activity, but are still necessary for the business to function. Examples include rent, utilities, and insurance, depreciation etc.
__________________
Andy
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 01-18-2010, 08:52 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,307
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Ok, so even if you decided not to do anything tomorrow and take the day off, you will still have costs for that day and that is the overhead to keep everything going.
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 01-19-2010, 05:21 AM
picframer's Avatar
picframer picframer is offline
Andy
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 2,885
Rep Power: 9
picframer will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
Ok, so even if you decided not to do anything tomorrow and take the day off, you will still have costs for that day and that is the overhead to keep everything going.
Yes that is correct, things like insurance, rent, heat etc they are fixed overhead costs, we can't do anything to change them, labor is variable as are sales costs as it depends on workload and what the sales is bringing in.
__________________
Andy
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-19-2010, 12:28 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,307
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

At what point should a business owner consider labor costs when trying to determine the financial health of their business?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-19-2010, 03:51 PM
picframer's Avatar
picframer picframer is offline
Andy
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 2,885
Rep Power: 9
picframer will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
At what point should a business owner consider labor costs when trying to determine the financial health of their business?
Any day of the week actually, run an income statement.

Because it was our first year I checked up on every job we did to measure the profitability, now I have a very good handle on what we need to charge, we lost on three but all in all we made it up and I am very pleased with the after tax income, I finished the financials almost a week ago and everything is filed and finished for 2009.

What is important to me is why did we loose and change the problem or whatever the issue is right away, I know we made money but undercharged on a few also which has also been corrected.

I find/found the hardest jobs to quote were wood cutting and chipping, so we are straight by the hour and if you are not happy about the progress you can stop us any time, I will give you a rough guess but it's impossible quoting downfall, we can cut trees down, block them up and chip the brush two to three times as fast as cleaning up downfall as it always a major mess.
__________________
Andy
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-19-2010, 08:36 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,307
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

I think that is fantastic you do that. Would newer lawn care companies have a tough time doing that though? Keeping track of different job categories to see which category they tend to make more money on and which they lose money on?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Entering your overhead costs - Online estimator Steve Online Lawn Care Estimator - Help me bid this job 2 04-13-2009 11:49 AM
Calculating overhead equipment costs. Steve General Business Discussions 5 02-08-2009 06:54 PM

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Exmark Lazer Z S-Series...
BLC7
08-22-2014 10:18 AM
Today 08:03 AM
by Greg'slawnandlandscape
8 243
Stihl engine isn't...
Marcintosh
08-12-2014 08:30 PM
Yesterday 09:28 PM
by Marcintosh
12 445
Hello
jawnebgoode
Yesterday 08:37 PM
Yesterday 08:37 PM
by jawnebgoode
0 25
Hello from Ohio
kurtwin
Yesterday 05:06 PM
Yesterday 05:06 PM
by kurtwin
0 36
Softball field
kslawn
08-15-2014 09:28 AM
Yesterday 12:01 PM
by Steve
16 538
Lawn needs top soil What...
jymie
08-26-2014 11:01 AM
Yesterday 11:58 AM
by Steve
5 157
Sod
RosalesLawnCare
08-27-2014 03:47 PM
Yesterday 11:55 AM
by Steve
1 83
Help pricing cut down 7...
Bradcook21
08-26-2014 11:17 PM
Yesterday 11:47 AM
by Steve
5 146
Walk Behinds and Texas...
SGL1
08-26-2014 03:53 PM
08-27-2014 10:38 PM
by SGL1
5 151
Say Hello !!!
Steve
03-19-2007 11:18 AM
08-27-2014 08:33 PM
by kurtwin
1,187 331,107
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
03-22-2014 09:12 AM
08-26-2014 04:21 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
110 6,514
How do I approach...
Bradcook21
08-21-2014 01:48 AM
08-26-2014 05:08 AM
by Billy Goat
12 431
Tender Process
M2Dave
08-24-2014 12:31 PM
08-25-2014 04:14 PM
by Steve
2 139
Grass hopper mower
ExtremeLawncareServices
12-05-2013 08:51 AM
08-25-2014 04:02 PM
by Steve
26 3,777
Need help pricing basic...
Bradcook21
08-22-2014 01:21 AM
08-22-2014 01:05 PM
by Steve
2 220
Yearly contract Pricing
jrob0691
08-21-2014 08:57 AM
08-22-2014 01:01 PM
by Steve
6 284
yearly contract help...
jrob0691
08-21-2014 04:09 PM
08-22-2014 12:48 PM
by Steve
1 170
Pampas bushes
Bradcook21
08-22-2014 01:30 AM
08-22-2014 07:17 AM
by grassdoctore
1 146
2014 Gie-expo
ExtremeLawncareServices
08-19-2014 11:22 PM
08-21-2014 08:50 PM
by phlawncare
2 191
Fuel Can Spouts
Shark1611
08-16-2014 09:09 AM
08-21-2014 08:23 PM
by SGL1
11 426
Have you ever had to...
SouthernRootsLawnCare
07-26-2014 02:41 PM
08-21-2014 05:03 PM
by stevef1201
6 691
Hello
M2Dave
08-21-2014 12:32 AM
08-21-2014 01:38 PM
by Steve
1 148
New Landscaping Business
rekon32
08-16-2014 02:26 PM
08-21-2014 12:33 PM
by SouthallMowing
8 482
Downed Tree Chop Bid
WesleySnips
08-16-2014 03:47 PM
08-20-2014 01:44 PM
by SGL1
10 461
60 inch honda/bunton...
pblawncare
08-17-2014 11:30 AM
08-18-2014 03:19 PM
by Steve
2 208
Replacement Parts -...
nicholas-KC
08-16-2014 08:40 AM
08-18-2014 03:16 PM
by Steve
4 311
Preparing the soil
Billy Goat
08-16-2014 06:18 PM
08-18-2014 03:01 PM
by Steve
1 221
What to pay help
phlawncare
08-04-2014 08:33 PM
08-18-2014 10:33 AM
by jrs.landscaping
29 1,040
Hello
Jeff1
08-07-2014 11:18 PM
08-15-2014 11:53 PM
by Jeff1
11 524
Lie #2 RESIDENTIAL...
ExtremeLawncareServices
01-06-2014 05:02 AM
08-15-2014 01:46 PM
by mattthelawnguy
54 6,602
Need help 30 HP koler...
Shady Grady
08-01-2014 03:31 PM
08-15-2014 08:46 AM
by kslawn
18 696
New Boomless Sprayer!
BlackRain75
01-03-2014 01:01 PM
08-14-2014 02:37 AM
by BlackRain75
12 1,869
first year update
cmdlawncare
08-12-2014 05:41 PM
08-13-2014 03:29 PM
by Steve
1 320
Hello from Jacksonville,...
JM Lawn Care
08-10-2014 07:15 AM
08-13-2014 07:04 AM
by Sprinkler Buddy
9 423
Hello everyone new to...
maddyandrays
08-11-2014 04:51 PM
08-12-2014 08:58 PM
by Shark1611
2 267
Walk behinds
hpruitcei
08-07-2014 06:28 PM
08-12-2014 02:35 PM
by mattthelawnguy
7 532
New name help
stevef1201
08-10-2014 04:27 PM
08-12-2014 12:03 PM
by Steve
6 421
my little green dilemmas
Lawn Techie
08-03-2014 11:47 AM
08-11-2014 01:20 PM
by Steve
7 527
what the best...
CleanCutsLLC
08-02-2014 01:02 AM
08-11-2014 01:16 PM
by Steve
6 552
Texas lawn care company...
Livingston Lawn Care
07-25-2014 11:29 AM
08-11-2014 01:19 AM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
13 823
Covering all the bases
janslawncare
08-08-2014 10:11 AM
08-08-2014 01:41 PM
by Steve
1 365
New from Florida
ADE
08-06-2014 08:40 PM
08-08-2014 01:32 PM
by Steve
4 431
JOB - Landscape Install...
janslawncare
08-08-2014 10:06 AM
08-08-2014 10:06 AM
by janslawncare
0 319
Battery power tools or...
Steve
08-07-2014 12:24 PM
08-07-2014 05:18 PM
by mattthelawnguy
2 327
My client just told me...
Greg'slawnandlandscape
08-04-2014 08:39 AM
08-06-2014 11:14 PM
by grassdoctore
12 669
Illegal spraying
GoGreenerKS
07-04-2014 09:11 AM
08-06-2014 02:03 PM
by Steve
13 1,303
Mowing the hills
EyeCatchersNow
07-08-2014 12:22 PM
08-06-2014 01:40 PM
by Steve
20 1,527
Crop Rotation Techniques...
eastsidelandcare
07-17-2014 03:47 PM
08-06-2014 10:29 AM
by eastsidelandcare
5 711
Late charge
Simon Abousaada
07-30-2014 07:23 PM
08-05-2014 06:46 PM
by TheBeast
12 926
buy out a lawn care...
rvezakis
08-05-2014 01:38 PM
08-05-2014 06:40 PM
by TheBeast
10 680
» Popular Tags
4wd 34'' apartment complex auger blades butterfly gardens charge christmas christmas light hanging credit card customers ditches exmark ferris financing first truck georgia gopherhaul grass gravely growing a lawn care business health holiday how much to charge john deere quik trac kansas city landscape services lawn lawn care lawn care busines plan lawn care business podcast lawn care business seo lawn care business show lawn care business website lawn care business website seo lawn care seo lawn care website lawn care website seo leaf marketing mechanic monthly mow mulch mulch price new and restored landscapes new buisness new business podcast property management company pto riding mower running a business savannah scag schedule seo snow plowing starting a business start up lawn care business stihl top dresser toro toro grand stand trailer tree care trimmer rack walker winter winter services
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:39 AM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:39 AM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy