Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Business > General Business Discussions

General Business Discussions A place to talk about general business discussions.

China companies "clone" the Honda CR-V


General Business Discussions

A place to talk about general business discussions.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 11-28-2009, 02:03 AM
SuperiorPower
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default China companies "clone" the Honda CR-V

While researching something unrelated I stumbled across this article.

It reminds me that if you build something good, it will most likely be cloned.

What are your thoughts about all these Chinese clones?
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #2  
Old 11-28-2009, 12:30 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 35,771
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
I can't imagine any industrial country allowing those vehicles in.

They are trying so hard to be major players in the world economy, maybe they figure the first step is to copy. Sooner or later they will most likely get their acts together but it seems they have a long way to go.

It's fascinating too how they have such an authoritative rule over there yet they flout any international laws.
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-28-2009, 02:35 PM
swstout's Avatar
swstout swstout is offline
Steve
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Canastota, NY
Age: 65
Posts: 1,082
Rep Power: 7
swstout is on a distinguished road
Default Quality

After WW2 Made in Japan ment jumk! They had to put out anything and everything just to feed their people. Their industry and government sought help from W. Edwards Demming an Americal quality expert.

Dr. Demming went to Japan because he saw America as going the same route - making junk. After all America was about the only manufacturing country still intact! They knew whatever they made would be sold as fast as they could make it no matter what the quality.

Japanese quality soon surpassed us. and we have been playing catch up ever since. I bet that you didn't that Toyota is the only truely American made care here now. Everything in an American made Toyots is produced in America and assembled in America. It may be Japanese design but it is made in America.

China's Quality will soon be their downfall. Consumers quickly recognise and avoid junk. China is now at the point we were in 1946. If they make , they can sell it. R & D (Rob and Duplicate) only works if the product is as good or better than what you copied. And playing catch-up is hell!

Steve
__________________


Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-29-2009, 12:51 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 35,771
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Quote:
China's Quality will soon be their downfall. Consumers quickly recognise and avoid junk. China is now at the point we were in 1946. If they make , they can sell it. R & D (Rob and Duplicate) only works if the product is as good or better than what you copied. And playing catch-up is hell!
Do you for see a time when the Chinese get their act together and make better cars than anyone else? Will it be possible for them to become an economic power house under their current government?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-29-2009, 02:36 PM
swstout's Avatar
swstout swstout is offline
Steve
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Canastota, NY
Age: 65
Posts: 1,082
Rep Power: 7
swstout is on a distinguished road
Default Quality sustains

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
Do you for see a time when the Chinese get their act together and make better cars than anyone else? Will it be possible for them to become an economic power house under their current government?
I do not believe China will become a lasting economic power house under their current government.
 
Japan succeeded because the government stood back and let them go for it. Industry runs industry in Japan. Employees in Japanese companies are for the most part, employees for life. They buy their groceries at the company store, send their kids to the company school, make almost all their purchases thru the company, go to the company hospitals and clinics when they are sick. hierocracyis kept to a minimum.
 
China regulates everything thru the party. Their bureaucracy is even worse than American hierocracy. They like American companies will eventually look at quality plans like the Toyota plan and pick and chose parts that fit in to their already failing system adding even more layers of bureaucracy.
 
Quality sells and endures. Cheap prices only sustain for a short time!
 
Steve
__________________


Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-29-2009, 02:49 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 35,771
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Do you think at some time in the future, the government will have to change in order to allow the country to keep going in it's current direction?

It seems very difficult to stifle a country of people once they have luxuries and communication and money. It is easier when everyone is poor and spread out, working the fields, but now, do you think they will push for further freedoms? Or where can they go with this?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-29-2009, 03:20 PM
swstout's Avatar
swstout swstout is offline
Steve
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Canastota, NY
Age: 65
Posts: 1,082
Rep Power: 7
swstout is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
Do you think at some time in the future, the government will have to change in order to allow the country to keep going in it's current direction?

Communism and So******m is not sustainable and never will be. In both ideoligies everyone is equal. But, some are more equal than others. The party leaders are becomming millionars and billionars, but the general citizens are only a little better. It's funny how capitalism is so bad yet is practiced by the privalaged few. The greater the distance by the privalaged few to the masses, the more certain democracy will follow.

It seems very difficult to stifle a country of people once they have luxuries and communication and money. It is easier when everyone is poor and spread out, working the fields, but now, do you think they will push for further freedoms? Or where can they go with this?
I'm sure there are many underground factions working on this right now. Underground for fear of their lives. Fear can only go so far before rebels (or patriots) unite.

Steve
__________________


Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-29-2009, 05:38 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 35,771
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

It makes me think of how Russia tried to get it's act together on the world stage after the thawing of the cold war. For a while it seemed like they were getting their footing but then they seemed to have fallen back into their old way of doing things.

Those who are in power tend to not want to let go of their power and Russia seems to be flailing now.
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-29-2009, 08:47 PM
SuperiorPower
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

The problem is too many people here in the US are not concerned about the fact they are buying junk. Their philosophy is that if they buy junk that just means they can buy "new" junk more often. They are content with buying junk.

I, on the other hand, I like to buy something and keeping it for a while. I try to buy good quality tools and this is for multiple reasons. One reason is I like to reward the manufacturer of a good piece of equipment/tool. In the shop I need good tools because poor quality tools tend to destroy the equipment I work on (example would be a cheap screw driver stripping and damaging a screw or a socket slipping and rounding off corners of a bolt). Good quality only makes sense.

But I think that society is addicted to, and content with crap, and thus they will buy it because it is "cheaper".
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
"Part Timers", "Low Ballers" & Self Employed doug1980 General Talk 22 07-24-2011 05:32 PM
Have you seen "Simply Mowing" door hanger/flyer template? akg62 Starting a lawn care business. 1 04-17-2009 02:02 PM
NEEDED: 1 landscaping company to profile LocalAdLink's "Geo-targeting" advertising Green_Day Promote your products or services 10 04-08-2009 09:48 PM
Online Business Face Possible Internet "Toll" Steve General Business Discussions 0 04-22-2006 12:43 AM

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Pushy customers
christopherhicks82
04-22-2014 08:22 PM
Today 04:56 AM
by Dan Tanner
6 145
In a bit situation need...
googus
04-22-2014 08:01 AM
Yesterday 10:03 PM
by googus
9 170
Mangwi Landscaping
bondservojc13
Yesterday 09:56 PM
Yesterday 09:56 PM
by bondservojc13
0 32
Acerage Rake
acrajchel
Yesterday 07:23 PM
Yesterday 07:23 PM
by acrajchel
0 32
2.5 acre mowing
xandrew245x
04-18-2014 06:55 AM
Yesterday 07:11 PM
by acrajchel
15 341
New Trailer
bobwill2009
Yesterday 12:46 PM
Yesterday 06:46 PM
by BelleCityLawn1
2 71
Advertising On...
JacobsLawnMowing
03-17-2014 03:21 PM
Yesterday 06:02 PM
by bobwill2009
13 867
Any greenhouse operators...
GoGreenerKS
04-15-2014 11:21 AM
Yesterday 12:37 PM
by Steve
7 221
Pond...
xandrew245x
04-22-2014 03:29 PM
Yesterday 12:30 PM
by Steve
3 87
Truck, Trailer,...
hawthornelawncare
12-23-2011 12:01 AM
Yesterday 12:17 PM
by bobwill2009
79 25,326
The $20 Mow Job
Dan Tanner
04-21-2014 07:24 PM
Yesterday 12:06 PM
by Steve
5 196
quickbooks users
CDLAWNCARE
04-20-2014 09:03 AM
Yesterday 06:48 AM
by CDLAWNCARE
4 177
Looking for advice on a...
Tekeda1
04-13-2014 09:53 AM
04-22-2014 07:55 PM
by Just for Cuts
23 584
About D@## Time!
TamMik
04-02-2014 08:10 AM
04-22-2014 05:14 PM
by BelleCityLawn1
19 870
Back for this year
xandrew245x
02-21-2014 04:30 PM
04-22-2014 03:36 PM
by xandrew245x
19 1,010
What Was Your Setup When...
superrman77
02-11-2014 10:53 AM
04-22-2014 12:29 AM
by Tony317
22 1,717
Sulky and Turf Tracer
acrajchel
04-07-2014 01:44 PM
04-22-2014 12:07 AM
by Tony317
9 448
danny 2
danny2
04-19-2014 10:19 PM
04-21-2014 12:25 PM
by Steve
3 138
this mower is driving me...
boog
04-17-2014 12:07 PM
04-21-2014 12:10 PM
by kslawn
13 359
What Fertilizer to Use?
acrajchel
04-07-2014 01:56 PM
04-21-2014 12:02 PM
by kslawn
20 607
I Got Taken...,
Dan Tanner
04-19-2014 06:26 AM
04-21-2014 11:49 AM
by Steve
4 233
new to this forum!
mower13126
04-18-2014 07:37 PM
04-21-2014 11:39 AM
by Steve
4 150
REO calling
Dan Tanner
04-16-2014 05:03 PM
04-21-2014 11:33 AM
by Steve
12 349
employee pay
4 seasons maintenance
04-10-2011 09:34 PM
04-20-2014 04:40 PM
by Dan Tanner
20 6,886
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
03-22-2014 09:12 AM
04-20-2014 11:13 AM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
32 1,216
Lawn Renovation
stevef1201
04-11-2014 12:00 PM
04-20-2014 11:11 AM
by kslawn
10 368
Customers droping like...
goodtimez
04-18-2014 09:53 AM
04-19-2014 08:09 AM
by CDLAWNCARE
7 231
Best Bulk Mulch delivery...
Steven Virgadamo
04-18-2014 09:52 AM
04-18-2014 05:34 PM
by Steve
2 105
Steve Virgadamo,...
Steven Virgadamo
04-18-2014 09:49 AM
04-18-2014 05:08 PM
by Steve
2 88
Instagram
Gerardo_Landscape
04-16-2014 11:28 AM
04-18-2014 04:51 PM
by Steve
3 184
Help with weed liability!
Prolawnofchatt
04-15-2014 09:10 AM
04-18-2014 04:47 PM
by Steve
5 248
Nationwide lawn care...
Billy Goat
04-15-2014 05:21 PM
04-18-2014 04:39 PM
by Steve
9 266
Truck Signage
Dan Tanner
04-16-2014 11:00 PM
04-18-2014 04:04 PM
by stevef1201
10 286
leaf removal
tlf59263
04-15-2014 10:00 PM
04-18-2014 03:59 PM
by stevef1201
6 239
Pay per click advertising
roostertail
02-12-2014 07:26 PM
04-17-2014 07:11 PM
by yardrate
10 640
Accepting credit cards,...
Darksteel
03-17-2014 08:01 PM
04-16-2014 01:02 PM
by jymie
15 806
Trimec
acrajchel
04-15-2014 08:24 PM
04-16-2014 11:10 AM
by Steve
3 151
Gopher Forum Discount!
BlackRain75
04-12-2014 10:44 PM
04-16-2014 10:50 AM
by Steve
9 349
hello
NFrailey
04-15-2014 01:39 PM
04-16-2014 10:48 AM
by Steve
1 132
Pricing a Mulch Job
dmcalpi
04-07-2014 02:16 PM
04-16-2014 09:40 AM
by jymie
21 789
google earth
CDLAWNCARE
04-12-2014 03:24 PM
04-16-2014 09:36 AM
by jymie
8 294
There has to be an...
CDLAWNCARE
04-14-2014 12:59 PM
04-15-2014 04:06 PM
by Dan Tanner
6 235
First Day Back!
BelleCityLawn1
04-09-2014 09:13 PM
04-15-2014 11:16 AM
by Steve
11 371
Mow America
stevegredler
04-13-2014 01:02 PM
04-14-2014 09:53 PM
by kslawn
5 276
Power Broom
acrajchel
04-14-2014 07:46 AM
04-14-2014 12:47 PM
by CDLAWNCARE
2 156
Say Hello !!!
Steve
03-19-2007 11:18 AM
04-14-2014 11:34 AM
by Steve
1,176 286,841
Equipment reviews
Greg'slawnandlandscape
04-09-2014 07:17 AM
04-14-2014 11:27 AM
by Greg'slawnandlandscape
13 533
Aerating Prices?
Dan Tanner
04-08-2014 03:16 PM
04-14-2014 10:31 AM
by Steve
13 540
Estimating help
acrajchel
04-11-2014 06:06 PM
04-14-2014 10:20 AM
by Steve
3 243
Need help bidding church...
GreenRidge Lawn&Landscape
04-07-2014 08:01 PM
04-14-2014 09:49 AM
by Steve
12 501
» Popular Tags
4x4 ads article marketing blower butterfly gardens care charge craigslist credit card cultivation customers decorating echo exmark ferris financing florida flower bed cultivation price four wheel drive gopherhaul gravely gravely 34" zero turn health holiday holiday lighting how much to charge introduction kansas city labor cost lawn lawn care lawn care business lawn care business book lawn care business show leaf lighting marketing mechanic monthly mow mowing mulch mulch price new and restored landscapes new buisness new business new start office management payment podcast property management company reo requests scag schedule selling seo sole proprietorship starting a business steve stihl subcontractor top dresser toro tree care turfgrass consulting upsell walker winter money making ideas yard clarksville
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:11 AM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:11 AM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy