Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Lawn Care, Landscaping, and Property Management Forums > General Talk

General Talk If it doesn't fit anywhere else, post it here.

Changing the Company Name


General Talk

If it doesn't fit anywhere else, post it here.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 11-22-2009, 05:13 PM
picframer's Avatar
picframer picframer is offline
Andy
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 2,885
Rep Power: 10
picframer will become famous soon enough
Default Changing the Company Name

Just kidding but.....

After doing this job today I am thinking I should change the company name to Insane Grade Leaf Collection, OMG this was a tough one, this is the X749 and it was all she could do to get up this grade, we dumped four times, a record and we have done some pretty bug lawns. Customer was so pleased wit the results that she gave us each an extra $50.00 cash so at the end of the day we went for pizza and a beer, man that went down well as itís been a very long day.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Grade.jpg (82.0 KB, 12 views)
File Type: jpg Grade2.jpg (105.4 KB, 10 views)
File Type: jpg Leafpile.jpg (140.8 KB, 11 views)
File Type: jpg leafpile2.jpg (124.7 KB, 8 views)
__________________
Andy
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #2  
Old 11-22-2009, 05:40 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 37,223
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
That's wild! Do you have any idea what angle that slope was?

At what point is it just easier to blow the leaves down the hill and then vacuum them up?

You could use an incline gauge like attached to your hood LOL.

__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-22-2009, 05:46 PM
picframer's Avatar
picframer picframer is offline
Andy
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 2,885
Rep Power: 10
picframer will become famous soon enough
Default

No idea what the grade is but I had to use four wheel drive and differential lock front and rear to get up it, it's too slow to blow a pile, this place was about 1/2 an acre $185.00, we were in and gone in about an hour, me and one helper, we knocked off 6 jobs, the other crew managed 7. I would guess the grade was close to 40 degrees, there is no way a ZTR could mow this, she was hiring a guy with a push mower but asked if we would do it next year, she also asked about fixing the lawn, building a retaining wall so that she has some flat area, we will end up with a 30 to 40 thousand dollar contract, this is a very, very wealthy area.
__________________
Andy
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-22-2009, 05:59 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 37,223
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

This makes me wonder, how long do you feel it would have taken the average lawn care business owner to do this job if they had to simply use leaf blowers?

How much do you feel they would have to charge to perform that job then?

We talk at times about the expense of equipment but this could be a great example of how having the right equipment can make a job feasible and profitable. Maybe the customer simply wouldn't have wanted anyone else to do it because they couldn't be as competitive as you.
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-22-2009, 07:01 PM
picframer's Avatar
picframer picframer is offline
Andy
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 2,885
Rep Power: 10
picframer will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
This makes me wonder, how long do you feel it would have taken the average lawn care business owner to do this job if they had to simply use leaf blowers?

How much do you feel they would have to charge to perform that job then?

We talk at times about the expense of equipment but this could be a great example of how having the right equipment can make a job feasible and profitable. Maybe the customer simply wouldn't have wanted anyone else to do it because they couldn't be as competitive as you.
I asked (and do ask clients what they have done in the past) this site she said for the past 4 years she as used a company that sends two employees, takes them about 4 to 5 hours and charged her $125.00, they hauled the leaves away...IMHO they are loosing money. She chose us as she has many flower gardens and now she will have compost for them in the spring, the way she looked at it and she is correct, the money she pays for compost is close to what we charge for the service.

The right equipment is critical and I fully understand many just simply can't afford some of the gear we have, that unit you are looking at with the leaf collector is almost $26,000, but it does far more than collect leaves, it can run a 5' roto tiller, go almost anywhere etc.

It takes money to make money, I know that, the more services you can offer and if you can afford to buy equipment that saves time, it pays for itself very, very quick, that has been my experience.
__________________
Andy
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-22-2009, 07:29 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 37,223
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

That is so very interesting!

Did you have to sell her on the concept of she would be able to keep the compost and that would help offset her costs for compost next Spring?

I would figure the average home owner would choose the cheaper initial price even if the crew took longer because we all seem to have this immediate gratification desire we must answer to.

It is a fascinating topic when you think about how it is one company can compete with a lower tech, lower cost company.
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-22-2009, 08:06 PM
justin_time justin_time is offline
Justin
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: French River, ON, Canada
Age: 29
Posts: 1,801
Rep Power: 0
justin_time is on a distinguished road
Default

Don't you have the tow behind vac hose for the unit ? Maybe it would of went faster to suck it up through the hose than trying to push the tractor/unit uphill
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-22-2009, 08:17 PM
picframer's Avatar
picframer picframer is offline
Andy
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 2,885
Rep Power: 10
picframer will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by justin_time View Post
Don't you have the tow behind vac hose for the unit ? Maybe it would of went faster to suck it up through the hose than trying to push the tractor/unit uphill
Yes but I am running the Gator high lift mulching blades which will left wet leaves, the vac unit you are speaking of we have but we use it for hard to reach areas, it's too much time, I can simply drive over the leaves up to 10" deep and they are gone, helper just blows in the edges, bedsm around rocks etc, we have the process nailed.
__________________
Andy
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-22-2009, 08:25 PM
picframer's Avatar
picframer picframer is offline
Andy
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 2,885
Rep Power: 10
picframer will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
That is so very interesting!

Did you have to sell her on the concept of she would be able to keep the compost and that would help offset her costs for compost next Spring?

I would figure the average home owner would choose the cheaper initial price even if the crew took longer because we all seem to have this immediate gratification desire we must answer to.

It is a fascinating topic when you think about how it is one company can compete with a lower tech, lower cost company.
Not sure, she contacted me, I gave her a quote, explained what our equipment will do, I am not a hard sale guy, this is what we do, this is the cost, I still get the bids.

The customer that wants the lower cost, is not my target market and never will be, I have the gear to provide a better service, as with anything it comes with a cost, we still get almost 95% of our bids, if you can't afford our service I respect that and I wish you well.

I think the difference is I am not hungry for work, I will give you a quote and you decide, for whatever reason, and I know it's because I have very specific areas where we work.

Most of the 5% we do not get is in areas I am not interested in.
__________________
Andy
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-22-2009, 08:29 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 37,223
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

This is a great lessons for everyone to consider.

Instead of trying to focus on offering the lowest price, focus on offering the best service and the rest will follow.

Quote:
she also asked about fixing the lawn, building a retaining wall so that she has some flat area, we will end up with a 30 to 40 thousand dollar contract, this is a very, very wealthy area.
It's amazing how a sloped lawn like that can render the yard useless. I bet they would like nothing more than to have a level back yard.
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Changing business name...just a bit Little's General Talk 11 06-07-2009 09:10 PM
Changing to this forum Frontier-Lawn Lawn Maintenance / Lawn Renovation 1 10-30-2007 06:11 PM
A changing field Steve General Business Discussions 2 08-14-2006 07:54 PM
changing gopher to new cpu. Gopher Software Support Archived Question & Answers - Read Only 1 04-18-2006 12:29 AM
Changing over Gopher Software Support Archived Question & Answers - Read Only 1 12-26-2005 02:23 AM

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Aerating / Dethaching...
Hard-Body lawn & garden
04-12-2015 07:53 PM
Today 04:31 PM
by biglee
16 435
WARNING! Especially to...
SC93
Today 12:05 PM
Today 01:29 PM
by SC93
2 42
Pictures of commercial...
avetslawncare
04-01-2015 09:47 PM
Today 11:23 AM
by joshlawncare
22 791
Poll & Discussion...
CHEESE2009
09-16-2011 06:16 PM
Today 11:07 AM
by avetslawncare
25 5,476
Start LIKING FACEBOOK...
rlclawncare123
02-26-2015 12:06 AM
Today 09:21 AM
by KJ90
8 861
bidding a cemetery....
NPM_LLC
03-28-2015 10:56 AM
Today 05:26 AM
by RSE
22 874
color fliers?
holymoly
Yesterday 02:32 PM
Yesterday 11:10 PM
by SC93
1 52
lawn care business...
holymoly
Yesterday 02:56 PM
Yesterday 08:18 PM
by holymoly
1 69
Hustler Raptor
SGL1
04-13-2015 09:27 PM
Yesterday 07:53 AM
by SGL1
15 377
is craiglist good to...
JBENI
04-16-2015 11:11 AM
04-17-2015 10:25 PM
by Wolf4dk
11 245
Could be great news for...
SC93
04-14-2015 11:06 PM
04-17-2015 08:58 PM
by SC93
10 305
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
01-11-2015 10:41 AM
04-17-2015 08:40 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
53 4,974
Am I missing something...
googus
04-11-2015 06:33 PM
04-17-2015 08:01 PM
by avetslawncare
10 393
weed
avetslawncare
04-16-2015 07:56 PM
04-17-2015 07:59 PM
by avetslawncare
3 119
Hello
sonny54
04-16-2015 09:49 PM
04-17-2015 03:10 PM
by Steve
1 83
Unreal
Chilehead
04-09-2015 09:12 PM
04-17-2015 08:27 AM
by Chilehead
11 444
starting a lawn care...
JBENI
04-14-2015 09:03 AM
04-17-2015 08:03 AM
by JBENI
14 407
Finally got a warehouse
avetslawncare
03-12-2015 07:52 PM
04-16-2015 07:52 PM
by avetslawncare
23 1,224
New 14 x 7 Enclosed...
whitepropertydetail
04-15-2015 06:46 PM
04-16-2015 03:40 PM
by Steve
1 133
quick pic
joshlawncare
04-14-2015 07:49 PM
04-16-2015 03:38 PM
by Steve
3 190
older used dump trucks
SECTLANDSCAPING
09-22-2011 12:33 AM
04-16-2015 12:41 PM
by biglee
21 7,929
Tax Poll
Steve
04-15-2015 02:13 PM
04-15-2015 02:13 PM
by Steve
0 139
lawn care by Aj
aj10261984
04-14-2015 06:50 PM
04-15-2015 01:43 PM
by Steve
2 164
Contact last years...
googus
01-28-2015 08:13 AM
04-15-2015 12:54 PM
by SC93
7 1,160
trying to sign up for...
JBENI
04-14-2015 10:20 AM
04-14-2015 12:11 PM
by Steve
1 379
Charging customers for...
Hard-Body lawn & garden
04-14-2015 07:34 AM
04-14-2015 10:35 AM
by Steve
1 185
New member
Jdlandscaping,LLC
04-11-2015 03:24 PM
04-14-2015 05:45 AM
by Jdlandscaping,LLC
2 219
hello
oasis_greenscapes
04-01-2015 06:18 PM
04-13-2015 12:03 PM
by Steve
8 458
New Member
Greenturion
04-11-2015 02:00 PM
04-13-2015 11:59 AM
by Steve
1 189
Client with...
OldSalt
04-07-2015 09:47 PM
04-13-2015 11:57 AM
by Steve
8 390
Getting rid of "mulched...
Mr. Mow
04-12-2015 04:21 PM
04-13-2015 11:26 AM
by biglee
3 215
String trim BEFORE mow...
Mr. Mow
04-12-2015 08:13 AM
04-13-2015 11:11 AM
by biglee
7 330
Billing methods
jcurr33
03-26-2015 01:33 PM
04-13-2015 11:07 AM
by biglee
15 824
Landscape Fabric
CurbAppeal1
04-10-2015 03:58 PM
04-13-2015 08:02 AM
by Chilehead
4 275
I lost a long term...
Sprinkler Buddy
09-04-2011 02:24 PM
04-12-2015 04:27 PM
by Mr. Mow
17 3,894
I'm Back With The Best...
aduttonater
02-21-2015 12:41 AM
04-10-2015 12:05 PM
by Just for Cuts
45 2,109
Snow removal contracts
CDLAWNCARE
03-31-2015 02:57 PM
04-10-2015 11:37 AM
by kslawn
6 473
Do you have medical...
Steve
09-10-2011 11:46 AM
04-10-2015 11:28 AM
by Steve
17 5,188
Shopping Centers
avetslawncare
04-07-2015 07:16 PM
04-10-2015 11:27 AM
by Steve
7 377
Leaf Vac's?
ABurlison
11-07-2007 10:18 PM
04-10-2015 06:12 AM
by RSE
14 5,690
Grass and Leaf vacuum
captain200
04-07-2015 07:05 PM
04-10-2015 06:02 AM
by RSE
4 334
Covering a landscape...
Dan Tanner
03-29-2015 09:01 AM
04-10-2015 06:00 AM
by Dan Tanner
19 939
I have a great idea!
biglee
04-05-2015 06:20 PM
04-09-2015 12:54 PM
by Steve
4 389
lawn care school
kevinburch48
04-09-2015 09:13 AM
04-09-2015 11:27 AM
by Steve
1 246
What do you suggest?
Growing Green
09-20-2011 09:56 AM
04-08-2015 03:09 PM
by Steve
8 3,118
Survey
Ducke
09-20-2011 07:27 PM
04-07-2015 11:33 PM
by SGL1
12 3,438
DOT Number
acrajchel
03-20-2015 05:56 PM
04-07-2015 10:55 PM
by SGL1
14 1,256
Avoiding Clients
CHEESE2009
09-08-2011 10:58 PM
04-07-2015 06:05 PM
by GLAN
24 6,398
Mass/New Hampshire...
jcurr33
04-06-2015 09:48 PM
04-07-2015 04:19 PM
by jcurr33
2 285
Ferris FW35 questions
Chilehead
03-10-2015 08:31 PM
04-07-2015 05:19 AM
by Chilehead
9 815
» Popular Tags
ad landscaping aerocore apartment bid apartment lawn care estimate applying auger blowout bob villa bush commercial contract help curb appeal services deliquentaccounts demonstration design ditches door hangers employee problems estimate facebook google growing a lawn care business hardscapes how to hydraulic jobs john deere quik trac landscape landscape services lawn lawn aeration lawn care lawn care busines plan lawn care business seo lawn care business website lawn care business website seo lawn care website lawn care website seo lawn mowing managing a lawn care business marketing marketing secrets more customers business mulch new mower ordinance patio install per hour service profit on employee scag v-ride scripts search engine optimization seo shreaded snow plowing sq ft starting a lawn care business steep lawns theft toro tractor auger trailer mate pro truck new used landscape up sell employee web design website won't return wood wright stander rh www.greenturion.co.za
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:32 PM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:32 PM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy