Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Business > General Business Discussions

General Business Discussions A place to talk about general business discussions.

Mow only vs. a Full Service


General Business Discussions

A place to talk about general business discussions.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #21  
Old 05-28-2006, 10:56 PM
kc2006 kc2006 is offline
Members
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 424
Rep Power: 11
kc2006
Default

I've said it before Howard, I wish I could get the response you do with advertising! I remember talking to you last spring and you had just landed a bunch of accounts, every time I read something from you it's a big moral booster.

I'm considering actually being more of a mow and go company, but not as much as you guys in Texas. Around here the accounts are alittle bit bigger so it's hard to get 20 accounts a day done, most we ever pulled off was 16/17 with 2 48" walkbehinds no sulkies though. I've thought it over many times and the key for effiecency for me would be a flatbed on a full size truck with a 60" or 52" w/b and a 36" w/b, basicly a larger version of what you do.

I just bought a 56" exmark and I'm having a ton of troubles with it, and I'm actually seeing that it's slower then my 48" w/b was on residentials. The only place it's fast is on the few commercials I have, it cuts time in half there. If I can get the company to "buy it back" I'm thinking of going with just a 60" hydro w/b and a good sulkie, this would bump productivity back up for me and still be gentle on me (belt drives are a bear).

This week I'm going to be going wild with flyers again, I still have about 3000 left. I'm going to be getting more made have to do with the heat and convincing people it's easier for them just to sign up a professional company that's reliable. I hope I can get the results (or even 50%) like you do!
__________________
\"Every strike brings me closer to the next home run\"
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #22  
Old 05-28-2006, 11:28 PM
Howard Roark
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
Hi KC,

My response to my advertising is very good, and I'm grateful. I do live in an area with tremendous growth and opportunity. However, do you know I came across a landscaper last week at a gas station who told me he was jealous of my rig and he only had 25 customers, but thought that was pretty good. He then asked me how many I had, and when I told him he nearly flipped! Now what is the difference between this guy and me? He had been in the business 4 years, and it's only my 2nd year. We also charged the same rates, in the same great area of major expansion and jobs.

So what are the successful guys in your area doing that you're not? Or what are they not doing that you could that would work?

If they key to efficiency would be a flat bed truck, and you've done the research to determine this, then do it! Just go for it.
If you realize that a 48" is more profitable than the bigger mower I say drop it down, or go higher!. Running the numbers over and over again always has seemed to work for me. I'm a calculator nut, in fact a friend of mine from my last real job told me I get as much pleasure from a calculator as a kid does from a video game. *

How are you getting your postcards out on properties that large? Direct mail? *I'm considering a direct mail route next year, but I do like the door to door as they at least have to hold it in their hand for 20 seconds on the way to the trash.

As for printing of new cards I did see a good deal at overnightprints.com with a sale they're having on postcards. I don't know anyone who has used them yet, but I may try them.

Keep me posted!
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 05-28-2006, 11:52 PM
kc2006 kc2006 is offline
Members
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 424
Rep Power: 11
kc2006
Default

In town the properties aren't really that big, my property is 4000sq ft of turf only. And almost all neighborhoods that I service have mail boxes at the street and I have talked with the post master and was told inserting flyers in the paperbox part is legal. So that's how I've been getting them out.

As far as what the competition is doing and what I'm not or what they're not, I'm more professional and they aren't. I don't know if I project too much of a professional image and it scares people or what, but I see all these guys in beat up trucks, with junk mowers doing a horrible job but they have work. Today for example, it was 90 degree's here (hot for me in Ohio! Probably nothing for you though) I thought about going with a sleeveless grey shirt that looks just like my company t-shirts just no sleeves, and I decided against it, I paid for it in the heat. There's no other companies around here that are small or still have mowing crews that use uniforms like me, or wash equipment once a week to keep a clean image. The only guys that do are the big companies or high dollar landscape companies.

It's like I laughed on here before, a friend mows part time because he's retired, all he had was a stenciled sign in the back of his truck for a month last year, after that word of mouth took over and he has a 7 day route now! I've put tons of money into advertising and looking professional and I still have 2 days of mowing only. I've tried everything from cheap flyers to moderately nice 2 color flyers. Gopher made me really nice full color doorhangers and I haven't got all of them out yet but they will all be out this week so we'll see if the really nice flyers get it.
__________________
\"Every strike brings me closer to the next home run\"
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 05-30-2006, 12:51 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 37,569
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by [b
Quote[/b] ]3) Strive for automation. I've had almost 80% of new customers sign up online without ever talking to them. There's nothing better than coming home to 15 e-mails of people signing up for service with their credit card ready to go.
Hi Howard,

Thanks for joining is there any chance we could see your website? I'd love to check it out.
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Your 2015 summer review.
Steve
Yesterday 11:01 AM
Today 11:19 AM
by Wolf4dk
1 37
SCAG Tiger Cat DECK...
rower30
08-24-2013 10:07 AM
Yesterday 02:51 PM
by Sunpointair
12 4,908
John Deere 667a
acrajchel
08-30-2015 10:00 AM
Yesterday 11:06 AM
by Steve
4 103
Dane Scag
Steve
08-28-2015 12:29 PM
08-28-2015 12:29 PM
by Steve
0 85
24 and 50 acre cemetery...
grassmasterswilson
08-18-2015 10:09 AM
08-26-2015 02:42 PM
by Steve
13 565
Rookie business question...
WarriorLandscapingCAN
08-05-2015 05:20 PM
08-26-2015 02:33 PM
by Steve
3 416
How to clean an old...
rmccutchan
08-16-2015 05:23 PM
08-26-2015 02:31 PM
by Steve
9 434
how to make customers...
Bradcook21
05-27-2015 05:04 PM
08-26-2015 12:25 PM
by kslawn
19 3,776
Needing a website built
burtle
06-17-2015 09:02 AM
08-25-2015 11:31 AM
by acrajchel
9 2,488
Big mowing job
Bradcook21
07-30-2015 03:57 PM
08-25-2015 11:23 AM
by acrajchel
17 1,009
ZTR Review
Shark1611
05-31-2012 10:42 PM
08-25-2015 11:16 AM
by acrajchel
8 3,779
Hi Everyone
mmays29
08-25-2015 08:16 AM
08-25-2015 11:15 AM
by Steve
3 131
Should I buy this Exmark...
googus
07-03-2015 09:22 AM
08-25-2015 11:08 AM
by acrajchel
11 1,208
Old Business New Owner
Toyman
06-17-2014 08:57 PM
08-25-2015 11:00 AM
by acrajchel
17 1,598
Hi everyone! We're new...
alltrades
08-22-2015 12:46 PM
08-24-2015 10:41 AM
by Steve
2 184
CAn I get some help with...
rootytalbot
08-11-2015 06:14 PM
08-24-2015 10:36 AM
by Steve
12 531
Hi
Wemowjunction
08-16-2015 08:45 PM
08-20-2015 01:46 PM
by Steve
11 423
Drive cable bad?
SGL1
08-10-2015 11:16 PM
08-20-2015 01:41 PM
by Steve
5 384
Hey there everyone
Cole8999
08-16-2015 04:42 PM
08-18-2015 04:35 PM
by Steve
3 265
Help with a truck
bdodson89
04-27-2015 08:15 PM
08-18-2015 11:47 AM
by rmccutchan
7 983
I need some aeration...
rootytalbot
08-14-2015 12:32 PM
08-18-2015 07:59 AM
by rootytalbot
7 407
Say Hello !!!
Steve
03-19-2007 11:18 AM
08-17-2015 04:34 PM
by Steve
1,229 406,218
Whats wrong with this...
GreenWorx
07-28-2015 07:56 PM
08-16-2015 11:42 PM
by rmccutchan
3 605
What's your next...
Steve
05-15-2015 11:54 AM
08-16-2015 11:09 PM
by SC93
16 1,262
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
01-11-2015 10:41 AM
08-14-2015 11:08 PM
by scaypa
95 11,506
New Biz
kufnerins
08-14-2015 05:52 PM
08-14-2015 08:56 PM
by Steve
1 222
Chemical and Fertilizer...
rmccutchan
08-09-2015 10:36 PM
08-13-2015 11:11 PM
by rmccutchan
6 421
String trim BEFORE mow...
Mr. Mow
04-12-2015 08:13 AM
08-13-2015 02:10 PM
by rootytalbot
12 2,094
Hello all thinking about...
bernie
08-11-2015 04:28 PM
08-13-2015 10:33 AM
by Steve
8 382
Logo Help Font Color
LZLC
08-08-2015 09:26 PM
08-12-2015 03:50 PM
by Steve
4 364
Pricing issue
Mr. Mow
07-07-2015 06:15 AM
08-12-2015 12:30 AM
by Jeff1
20 1,834
My new mower
Chilehead
08-08-2015 09:09 PM
08-11-2015 08:36 PM
by Chilehead
9 533
Thought this was a good...
Just for Cuts
08-06-2015 03:38 PM
08-11-2015 10:54 AM
by Steve
8 530
Plowing pricing
jcurr33
08-08-2015 04:58 PM
08-11-2015 10:51 AM
by Steve
6 488
Should I upgrade my back...
googus
08-07-2015 10:50 AM
08-11-2015 10:44 AM
by googus
7 453
Keeping it clean....
Wolf4dk
08-09-2015 11:31 PM
08-11-2015 06:34 AM
by Chilehead
7 377
I have been rude and...
biglee
06-15-2015 10:11 PM
08-10-2015 09:41 PM
by stallman419
12 2,764
Newbie Saying Hi.
LZLC
08-08-2015 09:22 PM
08-10-2015 11:20 AM
by Steve
1 267
How much do I charge to...
Chris Herrera
08-06-2015 09:30 PM
08-09-2015 11:31 AM
by biglee
2 412
scag SWZT review!
mattthelawnguy
07-23-2015 02:28 PM
08-07-2015 03:26 PM
by Steve
17 1,160
Best commercial contract...
sanlanct
08-04-2015 12:18 PM
08-06-2015 06:20 AM
by sanlanct
2 406
I came across this on a...
rootytalbot
08-02-2015 11:04 AM
08-05-2015 08:17 PM
by SC93
9 640
Help bidding a hedge...
hopolb33
08-02-2015 06:09 PM
08-05-2015 02:07 PM
by Steve
3 443
recycler toro 22"
rvezakis
08-03-2015 12:10 PM
08-04-2015 11:47 AM
by Steve
1 325
» Popular Tags
ad landscaping advertising aerocore applying bark billy goat brushcutter blowout bob villa bush collections contract help curb appeal services deliquentaccounts demonstration design door hangers edging employee problems equipment dealer equipment rental facebook flyers free advertising free lawn care google growing a lawn care business hiring how to hydro increase customers jobs landscape landscaping landscaping training lawn aeration lawn care lawn mowing marketing marketing secrets more customers business mr dave mulch new business ordinance past due per hour charge per hour service plowing pricing profit on employee roundup scag secrets to landscaping seo shell shreaded solo sq ft square foot swzt tree tree pics up sell employee walk behind web design website website design winterization wood www.greenturion.co.za
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:22 AM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:22 AM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy