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Old 01-15-2012, 11:22 AM
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We are all in different circumstances and what's good for one may not be for someone else. Saying "spend the extra money" is easy. It's just plain stupid though for me to buy a commercial ZTR at this point - I don't have enough properties where I can USE a ZTR to justify going in debt over it.

I'm a big boy. I didn't go into this with anything but realistic expectations.





Today I took my backpack blower and blew the snow off my back yard.
Hopefully the sun will melt the rest and I can get this mower outside and actually run it.
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Old 01-15-2012, 11:50 AM
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So,when you were living in your car ,what mower did you go and buy ? a cheap one or did you buy a $6000.00 one right off the hop? the o.p. has stated he knows he bought a throw away and doesnt have the cash for something better right now ,he has said many times he will not be using it a lot ,and had even said he didnt post this on lawn site so no ***-baggers will be giving him grief because he bought a non commercial machine .In your first post in this thread,you admitted you read the ***-bagger part ,too bad you never figured out it was pointed directly at the likes of you !
well, what i did was from 15 years old until i was 22 is i got my life in order and worked in the trade as a employee and i saved my money in anticipation of starting a business the right way with a business plan and cash on hand.
and yes i bought a brand new walker mower and 2 used walk behinds for my first machines because even in the beginning when i could say " i don't really need to spend the money on a machine for the amount of work i got now " line. the simple truth was i did not plan on cutting 10 lawns for long and i planned on cutting many more in the near future.

all i am trying to do is offer advice as well as show anyone who wants to listen it is not as hard as you think and there are a lot more people out there who started off with less then ideal conditions and went on to make something for themselves.

and oh yes, i had it all figured out from the first time i opened the thread but while you are too busy throwing verbal insults at people and making ignorant assumptions about people you don't even know you fail to see that the real azz- bagger is yourself as well as the dude who says he can not afford to go in debt buying a better machine for his business that can make him money but can afford to dump his only $2,000.00 on a machine that was broken when he allready bought it.
he could have put that money down on a medium grade machine and even if he had to finance it would only be looking at a 150.00 payment over a couple years.

and forgive me to say it but if you could not commit even a couple hundred dollars a month towards building your business even in the beginning then you have a lot more important things in your life you should be working on then starting a business and should just get yourself a job.
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Old 01-15-2012, 12:13 PM
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We are all in different circumstances and what's good for one may not be for someone else. Saying "spend the extra money" is easy. It's just plain stupid though for me to buy a commercial ZTR at this point - I don't have enough properties where I can USE a ZTR to justify going in debt over it.

I'm a big boy. I didn't go into this with anything but realistic expectations.





Today I took my backpack blower and blew the snow off my back yard.
Hopefully the sun will melt the rest and I can get this mower outside and actually run it.

its cool dude, it really is.
i am just trying to throw other perspectives at you kind of like the devils advocate.
believe me when i tell you that i am not trying to insult you or belittle you but when you want to have a discussion about something you got to expect that the discussion is going to consist of points from various perspectives.

i am also speaking from experience about these machine because i have many good freinds in the business that have went the same route and they found out that they could get by in the beginning with that smaller machine but they soon found themselves faced with the same issue a year or two down the line.
to me it's like kicking the can down the road.
these homeowner machines are designed for a life of a couple years for a big property at a average of 28 cuts per year.
you are correct that it is a throw away machine and they build them that way.
if they can get you by 2 or three years at lets say a total of 84 cuts they will be beyond the warranty and you will not be crying foul.
but the problem lies with even if you are doing 10 cuts a week you are using it 10 times more then it was designed to do.
and even if it is under warranty which warranty's are nice who wants to use it or it come down to that and what is the warranty gonna do for you when you are shut down for a week or two waiting for the parts that they never have in stock and your customers are mad at you.

but either way, i wish you the best.
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Old 01-15-2012, 01:16 PM
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I apologize if this is off topic.

This thread is a good example of why i like Gopher.

Here guys motivate you to start up and go. I've read a lot of startup stories here about starting with residential stuff and now have a high number of clients and commercial equipment and a crew or two. You have questions they answer without making you sound like the most idiotic person to ever breath. Steve participates and asks questions to get you to think...you actually learn here. On the other hand......

It seems to me if you haven't been in the business for 20 years have 500 clients and weren't born with a lawn mower for a penis you're a low balling piece of junk and have no clue how to fart let alone run a business.

Hedge made the right choice for Hedge. As he mentioned, he's an adult, sat down and thought of all the good and bad points...thought it through, came up with an adult decision, he'll either reap the benefits of saving a couple grand, or suffer the consequences of going with lower grade equipment. It's his business, it's his livelihood, he doesn't need someone calling him an azzbagger and irresponsible for starting a business instead of getting a job.
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I apologize if this is off topic.

This thread is a good example of why i like Gopher.

Here guys motivate you to start up and go. I've read a lot of startup stories here about starting with residential stuff and now have a high number of clients and commercial equipment and a crew or two. You have questions they answer without making you sound like the most idiotic person to ever breath. Steve participates and asks questions to get you to think...you actually learn here. On the other hand......

It seems to me if you haven't been in the business for 20 years have 500 clients and weren't born with a lawn mower for a penis you're a low balling piece of junk and have no clue how to fart let alone run a business.

Hedge made the right choice for Hedge. As he mentioned, he's an adult, sat down and thought of all the good and bad points...thought it through, came up with an adult decision, he'll either reap the benefits of saving a couple grand, or suffer the consequences of going with lower grade equipment. It's his business, it's his livelihood, he doesn't need someone calling him an azzbagger and irresponsible for starting a business instead of getting a job.
well you need to go back and re- read things because i was not the one hurling insults i was the one responding to one.

and yes hedge made the right choice for himself and i wished him nothing but the best, so whats your point? is'nt it better to have different perspectives to consider?.
and only you implied that anyone with a established business is all high and mighty, is this not a professional landscape forum? or is it a home owner garden club?
or is this some type of class warfare between established companies and new start ups?

and you know what, give me a break on the working class hero crap because i been at this a long time and worked my tail off as well as earned everything i got and i am still on the job all day every day and just like you i started from nothing.

when i entered into this thread i was joining in on the commercial vs non commercial debate not anyones particular finacial situation and when a point was made in response to me i obliged with a counter point, thats what a discussion is.

i don't know about you but i listen to everyone and especially people that have had success and thats how i had good fortune and i know there are a lot of guys here at gopher that are just starting out and that is how they will learn and one day be successful themselves.
my point is a lot of guys on here still have many large decisions to make in the years to come that will determine if they succeed or not.
the only advantage i have is i am older and been doing it a long time and started earlier and i have made my share of mistakes and we all have and will continue to do so but i have survived and my fate as a business owner has allready been determined where as a lot of folks on here it's " yet to be determined " and with that said i feel i have a lot to offer.
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I did not see any factory directed changes that would help you. I do not much experience on a Husquvarna IZ mower personally as I mainly work on what I sell and we do not have a Husquvarna dealer to speak of for miles away from here. I only see the homeowner stuff from the box store here. If you want we can start a thread and I can try to help you find a solution to this that might help you from breaking as many belts.
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