Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Lawn Care, Landscaping, and Property Management Forums > General Talk

General Talk If it doesn't fit anywhere else, post it here.

Management Companies


General Talk

If it doesn't fit anywhere else, post it here.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #11  
Old 12-23-2011, 02:40 PM
SECTLANDSCAPING SECTLANDSCAPING is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: CT
Posts: 1,912
Rep Power: 0
SECTLANDSCAPING is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
To put that $20 into perspective, how much do you think that company was charging

Furthermore, it would have been great if you left it open to them to call you when their chosen contractor was broken down.
I would say going by my bid they were charging $70-80 per push. Sure $20 times 8 stores adds up but they knew they werent getting quality for that price. The other factor is sometimes they lie to try to save a few pennies. Either way its not the type of client I want to deal with. I worked for this places when I was a kid and they make $3-$5k a day.

I did leave it open but if they called now I couldnt service them. If I did it would be at a higher price.
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #12  
Old 12-24-2011, 12:17 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 35,752
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
Quote:
It's funny that you mentioned this, because I read an article in one of the large trade magazines this past year how clients may start to settle on sub par services if they are cheaper. Just crazy
I bet if you included in your marketing how a sloppy plowing job (with an actually example(s) can lead to lawsuits from customers who are injured, it might get them thinking. Maybe.
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 12-25-2011, 09:21 AM
TiedemanLLC TiedemanLLC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 226
Rep Power: 3
TiedemanLLC is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
I bet if you included in your marketing how a sloppy plowing job (with an actually example(s) can lead to lawsuits from customers who are injured, it might get them thinking. Maybe.
I know what you mean.

It was interesting article though, I think it was by John Allin if I remember correctly (I could be wrong).

The article talked about a lot of people anymore just want a driveway plow or the grass cut, they don't care about the quality of the work, just as long as it's done. And they are willing to pay a lower price for service if it is "just mowed" or "just plowed".
__________________
Twitter
Facebook
LinkedIn
Website
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 12-26-2011, 04:50 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 35,752
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

How does Michigan handle slip and fall liability due from sloppy snow plowing of commercial properties? Do business owners have liability insurance to protect themselves from it? Also do you find the owners of commercial establishments are on watchful of the snow removal jobs they get or do they not care?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 01-01-2012, 03:43 AM
nnyparts's Avatar
nnyparts nnyparts is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Northern New York
Posts: 42
Rep Power: 4
nnyparts is on a distinguished road
Default

In Upstate NY...it is required by the snow plowing outfit to carry a large liability insurance policy. You the contractor are responsible for any accidents in said parking lot.
__________________
Northern New York Parts
Finding you the Parts you need at Affordable Prices
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 01-01-2012, 10:01 AM
TiedemanLLC TiedemanLLC is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 226
Rep Power: 3
TiedemanLLC is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
How does Michigan handle slip and fall liability due from sloppy snow plowing of commercial properties? Do business owners have liability insurance to protect themselves from it? Also do you find the owners of commercial establishments are on watchful of the snow removal jobs they get or do they not care?
Yes, we have liability insurance for it, but in regards to slip and fall lawsuits, I have heard do many different stories and ways to do it. But then I hear about stories that say the opposite for example.

1. You can waive any liability by pushing a contract that puts it back on the business. But I have always read stories in the newspapers where the judge has over ruled the contract saying that it's the contractors responsbility no matter what, even if it's written down in a contract.

2. I know of one local business where the judge threw out the case of slip and fall because the "consumer" that visited the store needs to realize that it's winter, and there will be snow and ice so there is nothing the store can do about mother nature. If the consumer didn't want to deal with the snow and ice then he should have stayed at home.

No in regards to my local businesses here we only maintain two commerical accounts. But those two are always worried about there sidewalks more so that there parking lot. The sidewalks have a zero tolerance for snow, while the parking lot is a 2 inch trigger.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 01-01-2012, 07:19 PM
turf&tree turf&tree is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 67
Rep Power: 4
turf&tree is on a distinguished road
Default

This thread really strayed from the original question. I would agree with Steve that the fast food places and such are usually franchises so you would deal with the franchisee. I don't chase that type of business because of the hassles of
1) they always go for the cheapest bid
2) you usually have to do them when there is customer traffic, so increased liability and pain in the butt trying to park a truck and trailer.
3) most times you are going to various cities to service that customer.
In regards to customers taking cheaper bids and not caring about quality, I disagree! Lately I have been selling jobs based on the fact that people are getting such crappy service they are just fed up. I heard that at least 6 times this week. I have 10 apartment complexes owned by the same person. She hired me based on the service I gave her when I worked for my last employer who had her accounts. I was more expensive and will raise her prices a little this year, but she already wants to sign contracts and usually pays within 10 days of billing. Outside of that I only take residential. I love spending time with my customers educating them. I had a lady on her knees this year looking for chinch bugs with me. I love these people!
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 01-04-2012, 09:47 PM
ataboyj ataboyj is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 41
Rep Power: 4
ataboyj is on a distinguished road
Default

Well what about just get more commerical jobs. How do you go about getting more commerical jobs? We have commerical jobs over the years but they mainly found us. We also work with a management comany with a bank. Was wondering if there more magagement services company out there?
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 01-05-2012, 03:06 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 35,752
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Quote:
How do you go about getting more commerical jobs?
You gotta figure there are a handful of commercial realtors or management companies in your area. Why not keep your eyes open for contact information whenever you see a commercial property for sale or for lease and call them up to get a contact person? Then get in touch with that contract person to offer your services?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
seo and ppc for landscaping companies justinmg77 Search Engine Optimization and Website Design Discussions. 11 08-23-2010 01:15 AM
Asset companies wdcutter General Business Discussions 4 10-19-2009 06:24 PM
Contracts with Property Management Companies eckscape Starting a lawn care business. 2 09-11-2009 10:48 AM
Sport Team Management Vs. Business Management Steve General Business Discussions 3 03-10-2006 11:36 AM
why do companies fail? 1manCrew General Business Discussions 9 06-25-2003 09:53 PM

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Lawn Pro Software
phlawncare
Today 01:28 PM
Today 01:28 PM
by phlawncare
0 28
What Fertilizer to Use?
acrajchel
04-07-2014 01:56 PM
Today 01:19 PM
by phlawncare
17 445
this mower is driving me...
boog
04-17-2014 12:07 PM
Today 12:06 PM
by kslawn
7 190
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
03-22-2014 09:12 AM
Today 11:13 AM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
32 1,107
Lawn Renovation
stevef1201
04-11-2014 12:00 PM
Today 11:11 AM
by kslawn
10 286
quickbooks users
CDLAWNCARE
Today 09:03 AM
Today 11:06 AM
by BelleCityLawn1
2 48
danny 2
danny2
Yesterday 10:19 PM
Today 05:13 AM
by Sprinkler Buddy
2 74
I Got Taken...,
Dan Tanner
Yesterday 06:26 AM
Yesterday 08:15 PM
by Dan Tanner
3 136
new to this forum!
mower13126
04-18-2014 07:37 PM
Yesterday 05:34 PM
by Sprinkler Buddy
3 109
employee pay
4 seasons maintenance
04-10-2011 09:34 PM
Yesterday 12:19 PM
by kslawn
19 6,776
REO calling
Dan Tanner
04-16-2014 05:03 PM
Yesterday 11:17 AM
by kslawn
11 269
Customers droping like...
goodtimez
04-18-2014 09:53 AM
Yesterday 08:09 AM
by CDLAWNCARE
7 174
Back for this year
xandrew245x
02-21-2014 04:30 PM
Yesterday 07:59 AM
by xandrew245x
14 872
Any greenhouse operators...
GoGreenerKS
04-15-2014 11:21 AM
Yesterday 07:49 AM
by CDLAWNCARE
4 145
Looking for advice on a...
Tekeda1
04-13-2014 09:53 AM
Yesterday 04:22 AM
by Tekeda1
17 396
2.5 acre mowing
xandrew245x
04-18-2014 06:55 AM
04-18-2014 08:57 PM
by xandrew245x
6 132
Best Bulk Mulch delivery...
Steven Virgadamo
04-18-2014 09:52 AM
04-18-2014 05:34 PM
by Steve
2 73
Steve Virgadamo,...
Steven Virgadamo
04-18-2014 09:49 AM
04-18-2014 05:08 PM
by Steve
2 67
Instagram
Gerardo_Landscape
04-16-2014 11:28 AM
04-18-2014 04:51 PM
by Steve
3 107
Help with weed liability!
Prolawnofchatt
04-15-2014 09:10 AM
04-18-2014 04:47 PM
by Steve
5 199
Nationwide lawn care...
Billy Goat
04-15-2014 05:21 PM
04-18-2014 04:39 PM
by Steve
9 222
Truck Signage
Dan Tanner
04-16-2014 11:00 PM
04-18-2014 04:04 PM
by stevef1201
10 232
leaf removal
tlf59263
04-15-2014 10:00 PM
04-18-2014 03:59 PM
by stevef1201
6 188
Pay per click advertising
roostertail
02-12-2014 07:26 PM
04-17-2014 07:11 PM
by yardrate
10 614
Accepting credit cards,...
Darksteel
03-17-2014 08:01 PM
04-16-2014 01:02 PM
by jymie
15 740
Trimec
acrajchel
04-15-2014 08:24 PM
04-16-2014 11:10 AM
by Steve
3 115
Gopher Forum Discount!
BlackRain75
04-12-2014 10:44 PM
04-16-2014 10:50 AM
by Steve
9 281
hello
NFrailey
04-15-2014 01:39 PM
04-16-2014 10:48 AM
by Steve
1 105
Pricing a Mulch Job
dmcalpi
04-07-2014 02:16 PM
04-16-2014 09:40 AM
by jymie
21 632
google earth
CDLAWNCARE
04-12-2014 03:24 PM
04-16-2014 09:36 AM
by jymie
8 239
There has to be an...
CDLAWNCARE
04-14-2014 12:59 PM
04-15-2014 04:06 PM
by Dan Tanner
6 187
First Day Back!
BelleCityLawn1
04-09-2014 09:13 PM
04-15-2014 11:16 AM
by Steve
11 315
Mow America
stevegredler
04-13-2014 01:02 PM
04-14-2014 09:53 PM
by kslawn
5 218
Power Broom
acrajchel
04-14-2014 07:46 AM
04-14-2014 12:47 PM
by CDLAWNCARE
2 115
Say Hello !!!
Steve
03-19-2007 11:18 AM
04-14-2014 11:34 AM
by Steve
1,176 285,812
Equipment reviews
Greg'slawnandlandscape
04-09-2014 07:17 AM
04-14-2014 11:27 AM
by Greg'slawnandlandscape
13 470
Sulky and Turf Tracer
acrajchel
04-07-2014 01:44 PM
04-14-2014 10:51 AM
by Steve
8 369
Aerating Prices?
Dan Tanner
04-08-2014 03:16 PM
04-14-2014 10:31 AM
by Steve
13 458
Estimating help
acrajchel
04-11-2014 06:06 PM
04-14-2014 10:20 AM
by Steve
3 184
Need help bidding church...
GreenRidge Lawn&Landscape
04-07-2014 08:01 PM
04-14-2014 09:49 AM
by Steve
12 438
Hello all
Griff20114
04-12-2014 05:08 PM
04-14-2014 09:46 AM
by Steve
1 123
Step by Step Spring Lawn...
WarriorLawnscaping
04-10-2014 07:01 AM
04-14-2014 09:43 AM
by Steve
5 264
Jeff Cowden
jcowden
04-11-2014 07:27 PM
04-14-2014 09:39 AM
by Steve
1 116
Exmark Commercial 30...
Dan Tanner
04-11-2014 05:35 AM
04-14-2014 09:37 AM
by Steve
4 206
What Was Your Setup When...
superrman77
02-11-2014 10:53 AM
04-14-2014 08:04 AM
by acrajchel
21 1,613
Small guy time to get a...
googus
04-08-2014 08:16 AM
04-13-2014 07:18 PM
by A. Kulak Landscaping
9 339
Weekly vs. Bi-weekly
CDLAWNCARE
04-12-2014 01:48 PM
04-13-2014 06:03 PM
by kslawn
9 353
Weed ID help
TwinBrosLC
04-12-2014 10:39 AM
04-13-2014 07:40 AM
by stevef1201
4 176
Lexington, KY
acrajchel
04-07-2014 01:06 PM
04-11-2014 09:49 PM
by acrajchel
1 149
Food Plot Management
BlackRain75
04-11-2014 10:20 AM
04-11-2014 03:51 PM
by Steve
4 146
» Popular Tags
ads aerator bid butterfly gardens buy charge christmas christmas light hanging client color jet courtesy call craigslist credit card customers echo exmark ferris first truck florida flower bed cultivation price fundraiser georgia gopherhaul grass grass clarksville gravely health holiday holiday lighting how much to charge how to bid installation kansas city kawasaki lawn care lawn care business book lawn care business podcast lawn care business show leaf lighting brass outdoor lights llp marketing mow mowing mowing clarksville mulch mulch estimate new buisness new business new start office management payment podcast property management company redmax riding mower savannah scag schedule selling seo sprayer starting a business start up lawn care business stihl tree care unreasonable upsell walker winter money making ideas
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:16 PM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:16 PM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy