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Discuss issues dealing with landscapes, hardscapes, exterior landscape lighting and lighting fixtures, lawn irrigation, sprinklers, sprinkler heads, mulch, retaining walls, etc.
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Old 11-19-2011, 08:03 AM
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Thats the thing I can make $250.00 in 3 hours - $500.00 per day working by myself when I get the good jobs.

I have far more experiences with pressure washing than landscaping/tree removal/grass cutting/trimming so I know how long it will take me but I also learnt it has to do with the difficulty of the job.

I didn't estimate the footage of the gutters just looked at the difficulty and guesstimated the time it would take me the highest/longest gutter was 3 stories up I would have climbed 1/2 way up to it and just reached my extentention wand with the gutter attachments/jet up to the gutter and sprayed you get a bit wet doing it this way but it is way safer than climbing around on a roof.

Turns out that due to the snow the lady has decided to put off the cleaning until Feb = no gutter job for now but I picked up a new yard cleaning job that is as soon as the snow is gone which should be Monday or Tuesday.
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Old 11-19-2011, 08:45 AM
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I have been using a 4'X8' utility trailer removing this red cedar and the 3 smaller trees took 3 trips to the green dump which wasted my time so I stopped by the local trailer sales yard yesterday.

I am now the proud owner of a used 6' X 12' single axle 3500lbs axle trailer had to change the lights and need to do the wheel bearings other than that it is good to go.

I need to design/build a tool box for the front, higher sides and possibly a high rack that I can put my ladders on but I can do that over the winter.

No more multiple trips to the green dump for me = I am going to start on these larger jobs to quote by the job not by the hour that way I can make the same but get in/out and onto the next job quicker.
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You are really hitting the ground running! This all sounds very exciting!
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If all of this comes together it will be good.

I even went and did a walk about with the strata council treasurer at a 110 townhouse/unit complex today that the faller told me about.

They used to have a live in grounds keeper but he couldn't keep up so they are now looking for a grounds maintenance company to do the work their budget is somewhere around $60,000 +.



Need to get my old neighbour over to help me quote.
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How fantastic! You are so keying in on important points. Utilizing your contacts to find more jobs! WOW.

I can't wait to hear how this next bid goes!
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Has anyone else experimented with offering tree trimming or removal services? If so, how did it work out for you?
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What an interesting start for a tree care service of yours! You are the sole proprietor of your services or you have a team Moki ?
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WOW does this thread take me back...

Has it been that long already?

I am the sole proprietor and I have a team.

Here is a bit of what I have been up to =

I won the 110 townhouse complex 12 month contract mentioned earlier in the thread I do all of the general grounds care work, clean gutters, wash the units every other year and do the sidewalks and patios the other year.

I do trees there every year this contract is my meat and potatoes contract basically it pays all the bills/wages they will never let me go because I do all the tree work inclusive to the contract hows this just this one complex I have removed over 70 trees and you wouldn't know where they were because there are still so many more.

They did bring in a couple other companies to quote this year the guys asked if the trees were included = they never submitted quotes or came back.

Up until this summer when the weather was so hot that the grass quit growing I worked 6 days a week every week from when I started the 110 unit complex contract Dec 2011.

I now have 3 trucks and 4 trailers I had 6 main townhouse/hospital contracts last year and 6 full time employees resulting in me having to waste appr 1 - 2 hours of my time every day dealing with the issues that these employees created.

Fired 4 one day cause I could not deal with their stupid anymore let 2 contracts go because they were micro managing me making me do exclusive to contract work as if it were inclusive.

I am more into tree work than anything else now I still do not climb them myself though.

Actually the timing of this thread being bumped is kind of weird because I just won a 6 month tree topping/trimming/removal contract at a 142 unit townhouse complex yesterday which means with my other contracts I will be working on trees 4 - 5 days a week all winter long.

I still do not climb I subcontract that out.

I work off of orchard ladders I have them in 9' - 12' - 14' and 16' lengths and this spring I started renting a Genie bucket lift wow does that speed up tree work not having to climb up and down the ladder straddle them around/over fences where I would trim five 20' - 30' cedar/fir trees in a day using ladders I was able to trim 20 in a day using the lift.

Rented it for 7 days but after 4 days I had to stop my arms/were going to fall off if I didn't.

I am a tool nut = I now have at least 8 Stihl 90 series Kombi powerheads and 2 130 powerheads and multiples of almost every attachment and knowing that the new contract could be in the works I just bought an 12.8' Stilh 131 extension chainsaw 7 backpack blower lawn mowers out the yin yang etc etc

Problem is I work so much I do not have time to service my own equipment so have to pay my local service center to do the tuneups for me.

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I am glad to hear you won that contract.

For all the newer members looking to take a jump into larger bids like that, do you have any advice on how to bid them and make the transition as smooth as possible so you (the owner) don't get overwhelmed?
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Bidding on townhouse complexes can be intimidating especially if there is a lot of competition in your area.

I read somewhere that to make it in this industry you need to invoice out $97.00/hr = to make it I need to make $700 - $800 per day to pay wages and cover costs and put a little into my bank account which I still don't have much of but I've been putting everything back into the company buying new equipment, trucks, trailers etc.

My new contract (we signed the papers yesterday) is for $750/day this includes green waste disposal but I don't pay for that and I drive right past the dump on my way home this also pays myself and 2 employees wages ah who am I kidding I don't pay myself...

So if it's going to take me 2 hours to do a complex I need to quote $200/visit.

If it takes 4 hours then I need to quote out $350 - $400/visit.

I am quoting on a 29 unit complex right now there is not much grass work but lots of trees/shrubs/gardens I asked $475/visit which was high they came back asking me to re-quote I will drop my quote to $400/visit if I go $350/visit I will cover my costs but not make any profit.

The idea behind complexes is to get in the door with a fair price then do exclusive to contract work example washing the buildings and cleaning gutter doing tree & shrub removal bark mulch/gravel work with laying out woven landscaper weed barrier cloth is another job worth quoting.

Here is an example of where I make money on exclusive to contract work = I invoiced out an extra $13,000.00 in one month for washing buildings and doing gutters that was with just myself 2 full time and 1 part time employee doing the work this was above what the normal contract pays.

Unfortunately this is a best case scenario my normal extras are closer to $1000 - $3000 per month.

Employees are my biggest issue it's tough to find reliable people that will show up on time and get the work done professionally.

Example I hired a local 18 year old this year he worked very hard when he showed up for work but in 2 1/2 weeks he had missed 6 days and wanted the next two days off = he was done I next hired an older fellow wow never saw anyone move so slow.

Told him "I got to get you to hussle" his response was "that's not going to work because I only have one speed" = he was done.

I don't pay the highest wages I keep the guys on a base pay but give bonuses when the company makes extra money example they can make a bonus of $50 - $100 per day just depends on how much extra the company makes in the day.

Anyway I have to run got to get organized finish the quote and send it in then meet 2 employees we are working on trees and mowing lawns at two complexes today.
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