Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Business > General Business Discussions

General Business Discussions A place to talk about general business discussions.

Why do we fail at business?


General Business Discussions

A place to talk about general business discussions.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #21  
Old 10-22-2010, 02:25 PM
jasonw's Avatar
jasonw jasonw is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,004
Rep Power: 6
jasonw is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
From your personal experiences and the experiences you have seen with others, what is your view on why so many of us fail at business?

What makes it seem next to impossible for the average person to start a business?
I am sure most everyone has seen my ranting as of late. My problem has been mismanagement and growing faster than the business could sustain itself causing an ultimate implosion of the business. We are scarping out of it but it has not been easy. I still dont know how we went from up top to hitting the ground and getting back up in this economy. As if its not hard enough to get work now we got it, destroyed it and saved it. AIG should hire me.
__________________
White Company
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #22  
Old 10-23-2010, 05:42 AM
picframer's Avatar
picframer picframer is offline
Andy
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 2,885
Rep Power: 8
picframer will become famous soon enough
Default

Lawn care business tips
Quote:
Originally Posted by jasonw View Post
I am sure most everyone has seen my ranting as of late. My problem has been mismanagement and growing faster than the business could sustain itself causing an ultimate implosion of the business. We are scarping out of it but it has not been easy. I still dont know how we went from up top to hitting the ground and getting back up in this economy. As if its not hard enough to get work now we got it, destroyed it and saved it. AIG should hire me.
Steve asked a tough question and there is no simple answer, if there was we would all be a success.

Its a learning experience, when you get a contract that you did well, were paid for, received referrals, build on that and look at what you did and run with it.
__________________
Andy
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 10-23-2010, 10:48 AM
Paineless Creations's Avatar
Paineless Creations Paineless Creations is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: West Richland, WA
Posts: 204
Rep Power: 4
Paineless Creations is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ringahding1 View Post
Quote Steve: "They will probably rather hire the guy who seems to love his business and enjoy what he is doing" .... This is what you need to do, and show in order to succeed.... It's sometimes hard for my guys'(crew) to see how much I love this biz, cuz it looks as though I have so much...House, 5 vehicles, shop, mad lawn care equipment...HOT WIFE...LOL, and they are just scratching by...but I tell them I dont care about $$$....it is true I dont... I didnt start my own LCO for the $$$, and some of you may be witness to some of the flyers I have contributed...I'm telling you RIGHT NOW, I hit the pavement everday(SUNDAYS TOO)...."Work hard, take break" was stolen from a gentleman I used to work for(died in a MC accident) and that's exactly what I do...Hey mama didnt raise no FOOL, we all need $$, but if that's all this was....I wouldn't be on here trying to pass along what has worked for my LCO to people i've never met....Live honestly, be grateful, and WORK HARD....

That is a good write up.

I have just started this year- I do have a full time job and right now I do lawn care on the side. This year I took all my money and just bought equipment and made no money (I can't afford to buy commercial equipment yet-yes I know wrong move before you guys yell at me, but I can not justify the cost yet) I actually did very well off "word of mouth" this year. I have only good stories to tell you guys of this first year. But I always try my hardest to do a great job selling myself (always smile and treat people very respectfully) and upbeat (happy). Show up with clean truck and equipment and on time, try not to look dirty when I show up. I have simple logo shirts and keep a spare in the truck (I have learned) and then my good quality service on the lawn with great communication. This has worked for me. I am grateful for every customer and every lawn no matter what.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 10-23-2010, 08:56 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: East Coast
Posts: 33,671
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Quote:
This year I took all my money and just bought equipment and made no money
What is your view on this? Was this a good thing or a bad thing? Did you plan this out or did you realize this at the end of the year?


Quote:
My problem has been mismanagement and growing faster than the business could sustain itself causing an ultimate implosion of the business.
What's crazy is, we always want more more more. Bigger, Stronger, Faster.

We don't just want a Pepsi, we want a MONSTER energy drink. We want to supersize everything.

We want the fastest car or motorcycle and once we get on it, we want to hammer the pedal to the floor.

The problem with all that goes back to the old saying 'power is nothing without control.'

What that can mean in business is, we want everything big and new. As many crews as we can get. As big of properties as we can get. Yet we focus on the big and don't focus on the control.

Control is the last thing we ever worry about. Whether it is understanding our cash flow. Understanding how to manage our business. Understanding how to manage our employees.

I think the reason why we never seem to worry about control, is because control is not something big and physical in front of us. It is more of a concept. You don't necessarily see it in other businesses when they drive by or when you drive by them. You simply see, mowers, trucks, employees, and buildings.

You don't see the infrastructure laid in place over years of trial and error. You don't see how the office is run. You don't see if the owner is enjoying running his business or pulling his hair out daily.

If we realized more that we needed to learn more control, we would focus on it more and affirm that it is something we need to pay more attention to.

Their are entrepreneurs out there that make it all look so easy. That is because they have systems in place to make operations smoother. You can do it too. You just have to acknowledge control is something that needs to be part of your focus. As you look into it more and research it more, you will find ways to organize and streamline your business structure.

Realize control is an issue before it becomes uncontrollable.
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 10-25-2010, 10:30 AM
Paineless Creations's Avatar
Paineless Creations Paineless Creations is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: West Richland, WA
Posts: 204
Rep Power: 4
Paineless Creations is on a distinguished road
Default

Hi Steve,
Thanks for asking the answer is complety yes....I was thinking in my first season would officialy be the 2011 mowing season.
What I did this year was R & d like this forum I got a business license, got general liability and bought equipment as a made money. This year I just wanted to see if I like doing this kind of work. So to answer your question this year was completely planed and went way better than expected with my training wheels on...
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 10-25-2010, 01:49 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: East Coast
Posts: 33,671
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Would you have done anything differently up to this point if you could start over again, knowing what you know now?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 10-25-2010, 06:27 PM
Paineless Creations's Avatar
Paineless Creations Paineless Creations is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: West Richland, WA
Posts: 204
Rep Power: 4
Paineless Creations is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
Would you have done anything differently up to this point if you could start over again, knowing what you know now?
No not really. But ask me that same question 1 year from now.. LOL
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Why did your friends business fail? Steve General Business Discussions 6 06-05-2009 06:40 PM
People WILL Fail With a Lawn Business pnplawn Franchise Building, Entrepreneurs, Business Leaders, & Innovators Discussions 1 11-30-2007 01:27 PM
Be willing to experiment and fail! Steve General Business Discussions 3 01-29-2007 03:48 PM
Top 17 reasons why LCO's fail Steve General Business Discussions 0 08-25-2004 11:15 AM
why do companies fail? 1manCrew General Business Discussions 9 06-25-2003 09:53 PM

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Video, includes a little...
CHEESE2009
Today 11:21 PM
Today 11:21 PM
by CHEESE2009
0 1
ethics
t-10yrs2retire
Today 01:47 PM
Today 10:36 PM
by Hedgemaster
3 83
Bi-weekly question
schnide
05-15-2013 10:58 AM
Today 10:18 PM
by Hedgemaster
17 539
Very overwhelmed
xandrew245x
Today 09:31 AM
Today 09:30 PM
by Lopes Lawn Care
6 144
New to Gopher
NOLS GA
04-28-2013 10:42 PM
Today 09:05 PM
by NOLS GA
7 905
Truck trimmer racks
SECTLANDSCAPING
06-16-2012 05:56 PM
Today 04:40 PM
by Hedgemaster
21 3,118
no-compete agreement
CDLAWNCARE
Yesterday 12:45 AM
Today 03:52 PM
by LawnBoy0311
5 189
Trimmer Line
Shark1611
05-16-2013 07:56 PM
Today 09:04 AM
by stevef1201
9 304
Hello to all!
frankygarza
Today 08:59 AM
Today 08:59 AM
by frankygarza
0 44
New Toro Super Recycler...
Hedgemaster
03-20-2011 12:55 AM
Yesterday 11:20 PM
by Grass Doctor
134 25,538
It's FRIDAY!!!
CHEESE2009
05-17-2013 05:18 AM
Yesterday 10:23 PM
by Hedgemaster
3 221
Yesterday, I had a...
LawnBoy0311
04-25-2013 05:30 AM
Yesterday 08:45 PM
by SECTLANDSCAPING
10 841
When to mow, collect,...
cuttingedgeron
04-05-2013 01:06 PM
Yesterday 08:33 PM
by Hedgemaster
8 695
Missing small amount of...
xandrew245x
05-13-2013 04:30 PM
Yesterday 07:57 PM
by MBLC
17 601
crossroads
djm2013
03-17-2013 08:43 AM
Yesterday 06:27 PM
by djm2013
48 3,984
The customer is ALWAYS...
cutnuplawnservice
Yesterday 08:28 AM
Yesterday 09:02 AM
by stevef1201
1 164
How I found TOO Many...
BLC7
01-11-2013 02:12 PM
Yesterday 08:55 AM
by lawnbiz101
62 4,639
trailer leaf vac.
t-10yrs2retire
05-17-2013 10:44 AM
Yesterday 07:46 AM
by willshome
2 184
Radio advertising
CDLAWNCARE
05-04-2013 06:26 PM
05-17-2013 10:05 PM
by A&J service's
5 611
New Beginner here...
LawnCareProfessional
05-14-2013 12:05 AM
05-17-2013 12:00 PM
by Steve
8 523
Flower bed cultivation...
Emar
05-15-2013 04:41 PM
05-17-2013 11:42 AM
by Steve
5 274
Code violations
Greg'slawnandlandscape
05-16-2013 12:11 PM
05-17-2013 11:39 AM
by Steve
8 310
Moss in grass in the...
tk4454
05-16-2013 11:19 PM
05-17-2013 11:36 AM
by Steve
2 181
problem #2..springs in...
t-10yrs2retire
05-11-2013 09:03 AM
05-17-2013 11:34 AM
by Steve
8 613
Installing grass seed
thom
05-05-2013 06:35 PM
05-17-2013 11:29 AM
by Steve
7 759
Hoping someone can help.
jasonw
05-10-2013 09:19 AM
05-17-2013 11:25 AM
by Steve
9 573
1st video.
Grass Doctor
05-15-2013 05:52 PM
05-17-2013 08:41 AM
by jasonw
7 309
Undercutters
jhamilton60@yahoo.com
05-15-2013 08:17 PM
05-17-2013 07:43 AM
by LawnBoy0311
12 382
help pricing sod job
Jayls
05-15-2013 01:03 PM
05-17-2013 07:06 AM
by Emar
5 331
Mulching
jeffcs
05-14-2013 02:17 PM
05-16-2013 05:09 PM
by brian'slawncare
6 410
Unreasonable Requests
brian'slawncare
05-06-2013 06:07 PM
05-16-2013 05:04 PM
by brian'slawncare
29 1,478
Things are looking...
Jayls
05-14-2013 09:28 AM
05-16-2013 11:43 AM
by Steve
7 418
Say Hello !!!
Steve
03-19-2007 11:18 AM
05-16-2013 11:22 AM
by Steve
1,112 186,578
White Riding Mower Help
osbornl1
05-09-2013 12:17 PM
05-16-2013 09:27 AM
by jasonw
4 566
At Last!
Matther777
05-02-2013 05:51 PM
05-15-2013 05:21 PM
by Grass Doctor
17 1,159
Brush Mower
SECTLANDSCAPING
05-13-2013 06:04 PM
05-15-2013 11:43 AM
by Steve
7 418
Court houses....
SouthallMowing
05-13-2013 11:42 PM
05-15-2013 08:19 AM
by willshome
7 415
Hello Everyone
hemiman
03-16-2013 06:45 PM
05-14-2013 09:36 PM
by hemiman
14 1,754
Need Advice
Tony317
05-13-2013 10:16 PM
05-14-2013 01:17 PM
by Steve
2 341
Starting up and using...
Southern83fire
05-12-2013 08:57 PM
05-14-2013 01:14 PM
by Steve
6 493
problem #1...I think I...
t-10yrs2retire
05-11-2013 08:52 AM
05-14-2013 12:58 PM
by Steve
7 576
Round Up in FL
JRB6250
05-13-2013 03:25 PM
05-14-2013 12:56 PM
by Steve
3 386
Seo
superyards
05-10-2013 10:19 AM
05-14-2013 12:50 PM
by Steve
7 579
Rubbing a Car
SNethercutt
04-28-2013 11:51 PM
05-14-2013 06:18 AM
by fullblast
14 1,123
Help! Need opinions
LawnBoy0311
05-10-2013 11:26 AM
05-14-2013 05:03 AM
by LawnBoy0311
16 795
A new way to quote?
LawnBoy0311
05-07-2013 06:12 PM
05-13-2013 11:10 PM
by SouthallMowing
21 1,135
Two for Two - Woo-Hoo!...
Hedgemaster
04-18-2011 09:37 PM
05-13-2013 09:59 PM
by Hedgemaster
186 36,393
Beginner question. Lawn...
WarriorLandscaping25
04-21-2013 07:38 PM
05-13-2013 02:16 PM
by Steve
10 1,326
Belt tapping against...
donslawns
05-12-2013 10:56 AM
05-13-2013 01:08 PM
by Steve
2 401
Help!
amfine1996
05-11-2013 02:42 PM
05-13-2013 11:51 AM
by Steve
1 411
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:41 PM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:41 PM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy