Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Business > General Business Discussions

General Business Discussions A place to talk about general business discussions.

Why do we fail at business?


General Business Discussions

A place to talk about general business discussions.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #21  
Old 10-22-2010, 02:25 PM
jasonw's Avatar
jasonw jasonw is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,008
Rep Power: 8
jasonw is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
From your personal experiences and the experiences you have seen with others, what is your view on why so many of us fail at business?

What makes it seem next to impossible for the average person to start a business?
I am sure most everyone has seen my ranting as of late. My problem has been mismanagement and growing faster than the business could sustain itself causing an ultimate implosion of the business. We are scarping out of it but it has not been easy. I still dont know how we went from up top to hitting the ground and getting back up in this economy. As if its not hard enough to get work now we got it, destroyed it and saved it. AIG should hire me.
__________________
White Company
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #22  
Old 10-23-2010, 05:42 AM
picframer's Avatar
picframer picframer is offline
Andy
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 2,885
Rep Power: 10
picframer will become famous soon enough
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
Quote:
Originally Posted by jasonw View Post
I am sure most everyone has seen my ranting as of late. My problem has been mismanagement and growing faster than the business could sustain itself causing an ultimate implosion of the business. We are scarping out of it but it has not been easy. I still dont know how we went from up top to hitting the ground and getting back up in this economy. As if its not hard enough to get work now we got it, destroyed it and saved it. AIG should hire me.
Steve asked a tough question and there is no simple answer, if there was we would all be a success.

Its a learning experience, when you get a contract that you did well, were paid for, received referrals, build on that and look at what you did and run with it.
__________________
Andy
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 10-23-2010, 10:48 AM
Paineless Creations's Avatar
Paineless Creations Paineless Creations is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: West Richland, WA
Posts: 205
Rep Power: 6
Paineless Creations is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ringahding1 View Post
Quote Steve: "They will probably rather hire the guy who seems to love his business and enjoy what he is doing" .... This is what you need to do, and show in order to succeed.... It's sometimes hard for my guys'(crew) to see how much I love this biz, cuz it looks as though I have so much...House, 5 vehicles, shop, mad lawn care equipment...HOT WIFE...LOL, and they are just scratching by...but I tell them I dont care about $$$....it is true I dont... I didnt start my own LCO for the $$$, and some of you may be witness to some of the flyers I have contributed...I'm telling you RIGHT NOW, I hit the pavement everday(SUNDAYS TOO)...."Work hard, take break" was stolen from a gentleman I used to work for(died in a MC accident) and that's exactly what I do...Hey mama didnt raise no FOOL, we all need $$, but if that's all this was....I wouldn't be on here trying to pass along what has worked for my LCO to people i've never met....Live honestly, be grateful, and WORK HARD....

That is a good write up.

I have just started this year- I do have a full time job and right now I do lawn care on the side. This year I took all my money and just bought equipment and made no money (I can't afford to buy commercial equipment yet-yes I know wrong move before you guys yell at me, but I can not justify the cost yet) I actually did very well off "word of mouth" this year. I have only good stories to tell you guys of this first year. But I always try my hardest to do a great job selling myself (always smile and treat people very respectfully) and upbeat (happy). Show up with clean truck and equipment and on time, try not to look dirty when I show up. I have simple logo shirts and keep a spare in the truck (I have learned) and then my good quality service on the lawn with great communication. This has worked for me. I am grateful for every customer and every lawn no matter what.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 10-23-2010, 08:56 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 37,270
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Quote:
This year I took all my money and just bought equipment and made no money
What is your view on this? Was this a good thing or a bad thing? Did you plan this out or did you realize this at the end of the year?


Quote:
My problem has been mismanagement and growing faster than the business could sustain itself causing an ultimate implosion of the business.
What's crazy is, we always want more more more. Bigger, Stronger, Faster.

We don't just want a Pepsi, we want a MONSTER energy drink. We want to supersize everything.

We want the fastest car or motorcycle and once we get on it, we want to hammer the pedal to the floor.

The problem with all that goes back to the old saying 'power is nothing without control.'

What that can mean in business is, we want everything big and new. As many crews as we can get. As big of properties as we can get. Yet we focus on the big and don't focus on the control.

Control is the last thing we ever worry about. Whether it is understanding our cash flow. Understanding how to manage our business. Understanding how to manage our employees.

I think the reason why we never seem to worry about control, is because control is not something big and physical in front of us. It is more of a concept. You don't necessarily see it in other businesses when they drive by or when you drive by them. You simply see, mowers, trucks, employees, and buildings.

You don't see the infrastructure laid in place over years of trial and error. You don't see how the office is run. You don't see if the owner is enjoying running his business or pulling his hair out daily.

If we realized more that we needed to learn more control, we would focus on it more and affirm that it is something we need to pay more attention to.

Their are entrepreneurs out there that make it all look so easy. That is because they have systems in place to make operations smoother. You can do it too. You just have to acknowledge control is something that needs to be part of your focus. As you look into it more and research it more, you will find ways to organize and streamline your business structure.

Realize control is an issue before it becomes uncontrollable.
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 10-25-2010, 10:30 AM
Paineless Creations's Avatar
Paineless Creations Paineless Creations is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: West Richland, WA
Posts: 205
Rep Power: 6
Paineless Creations is on a distinguished road
Default

Hi Steve,
Thanks for asking the answer is complety yes....I was thinking in my first season would officialy be the 2011 mowing season.
What I did this year was R & d like this forum I got a business license, got general liability and bought equipment as a made money. This year I just wanted to see if I like doing this kind of work. So to answer your question this year was completely planed and went way better than expected with my training wheels on...
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 10-25-2010, 01:49 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 37,270
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Would you have done anything differently up to this point if you could start over again, knowing what you know now?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 10-25-2010, 06:27 PM
Paineless Creations's Avatar
Paineless Creations Paineless Creations is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: West Richland, WA
Posts: 205
Rep Power: 6
Paineless Creations is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
Would you have done anything differently up to this point if you could start over again, knowing what you know now?
No not really. But ask me that same question 1 year from now.. LOL
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Why did your friends business fail? Steve General Business Discussions 6 06-05-2009 06:40 PM
People WILL Fail With a Lawn Business pnplawn Franchise Building, Entrepreneurs, Business Leaders, & Innovators Discussions 1 11-30-2007 01:27 PM
Be willing to experiment and fail! Steve General Business Discussions 3 01-29-2007 03:48 PM
Top 17 reasons why LCO's fail Steve General Business Discussions 0 08-25-2004 11:15 AM
why do companies fail? 1manCrew General Business Discussions 9 06-25-2003 09:53 PM

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Pictures of commercial...
avetslawncare
04-01-2015 09:47 PM
Today 10:08 PM
by avetslawncare
31 1,234
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
01-11-2015 10:41 AM
Today 08:49 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
71 5,718
I have ZERO confidence...
Just for Cuts
05-01-2015 04:24 PM
Today 05:32 PM
by jrs.landscaping
16 244
I'm Back With The Best...
aduttonater
02-21-2015 12:41 AM
05-01-2015 01:13 PM
by jrs.landscaping
70 2,990
Latest video, Facebook...
Sprinkler Buddy
05-01-2015 06:54 AM
05-01-2015 01:09 PM
by Sprinkler Buddy
2 89
weed
avetslawncare
04-16-2015 07:56 PM
05-01-2015 11:38 AM
by Steve
8 450
so i need somehelp with...
dalvan0
04-28-2015 07:43 PM
04-30-2015 10:55 PM
by avetslawncare
3 168
Anyone have a Lawn Care...
nishirandall
04-28-2015 08:45 PM
04-30-2015 12:00 AM
by Steve
1 137
mowing pic
joshlawncare
04-25-2015 12:34 PM
04-29-2015 10:55 PM
by Steve
5 247
Big (to me) mulch job
tl757
04-23-2015 05:32 PM
04-29-2015 10:51 PM
by Steve
14 418
Help with a truck
bdodson89
04-27-2015 08:15 PM
04-29-2015 10:47 PM
by Steve
4 180
Ford F250 Wheel loaders...
jrs.landscaping
04-28-2015 05:34 AM
04-29-2015 07:47 AM
by jrs.landscaping
2 126
New company in Michigan
SEM
04-24-2015 09:27 PM
04-28-2015 11:56 AM
by Steve
6 217
Correct me if I'm wrong...
SGL1
04-26-2015 02:41 PM
04-28-2015 06:57 AM
by SGL1
12 269
Total yard rehab
SGL1
04-23-2015 03:59 PM
04-27-2015 06:57 PM
by SGL1
11 339
equipment marketplace?
jrs.landscaping
04-27-2015 04:49 PM
04-27-2015 06:09 PM
by jrs.landscaping
2 130
Buying contracts /...
greenscaper123
04-26-2015 04:46 PM
04-27-2015 05:59 PM
by Steve
2 163
Lawn Care Service in...
Friscobob
04-24-2015 03:33 PM
04-27-2015 05:44 PM
by Steve
4 239
mowfinder
scaypa
04-27-2015 05:44 PM
04-27-2015 05:44 PM
by scaypa
0 104
what's the big deal...
Tony317
04-25-2015 02:19 PM
04-27-2015 05:43 PM
by Steve
3 179
Newb Question - Multiple...
DependiLawn
04-24-2015 11:36 PM
04-27-2015 05:36 PM
by Steve
1 162
maintandlawndispatch...
SGL1
04-21-2015 03:31 PM
04-24-2015 04:42 PM
by Steve
9 319
Thoughts on Undocumented...
element009
09-25-2011 11:08 AM
04-23-2015 09:32 PM
by Chilehead
56 15,714
Hello Everyone
DesignsByBnC
04-22-2015 04:07 PM
04-23-2015 02:19 PM
by DesignsByBnC
2 199
The upcoming rainy...
5StarLawnscaping
04-21-2015 01:22 PM
04-23-2015 12:54 PM
by Steve
7 289
color fliers?
holymoly
04-18-2015 02:32 PM
04-23-2015 12:50 PM
by Steve
12 501
WARNING! Especially to...
SC93
04-19-2015 12:05 PM
04-22-2015 01:39 PM
by Steve
14 555
Could be great news for...
SC93
04-14-2015 11:06 PM
04-22-2015 01:28 PM
by Steve
15 613
quick pic
joshlawncare
04-14-2015 07:49 PM
04-21-2015 05:01 PM
by joshlawncare
4 430
Got Inspected today
swstout
08-09-2010 10:31 PM
04-21-2015 03:53 PM
by SGL1
10 4,111
Smoked my first belt!
SGL1
04-20-2015 08:46 PM
04-21-2015 03:28 PM
by SGL1
4 263
lawn care business...
holymoly
04-18-2015 02:56 PM
04-21-2015 06:18 AM
by holymoly
3 358
landscape insurance
clarkslawn
03-30-2015 10:14 PM
04-20-2015 10:02 PM
by SGL1
4 591
Poll & Discussion...
CHEESE2009
09-16-2011 06:16 PM
04-20-2015 08:20 PM
by avetslawncare
27 5,787
Aerating / Dethaching...
Hard-Body lawn & garden
04-12-2015 07:53 PM
04-19-2015 08:49 PM
by Chilehead
17 724
Start LIKING FACEBOOK...
rlclawncare123
02-26-2015 12:06 AM
04-19-2015 09:21 AM
by KJ90
8 1,119
bidding a cemetery....
NPM_LLC
03-28-2015 10:56 AM
04-19-2015 05:26 AM
by RSE
22 1,168
Hustler Raptor
SGL1
04-13-2015 09:27 PM
04-18-2015 07:53 AM
by SGL1
15 631
is craiglist good to...
JBENI
04-16-2015 11:11 AM
04-17-2015 10:25 PM
by Wolf4dk
11 541
Am I missing something...
googus
04-11-2015 06:33 PM
04-17-2015 08:01 PM
by avetslawncare
10 672
Hello
sonny54
04-16-2015 09:49 PM
04-17-2015 03:10 PM
by Steve
1 292
Unreal
Chilehead
04-09-2015 09:12 PM
04-17-2015 08:27 AM
by Chilehead
11 686
starting a lawn care...
JBENI
04-14-2015 09:03 AM
04-17-2015 08:03 AM
by JBENI
14 696
Finally got a warehouse
avetslawncare
03-12-2015 07:52 PM
04-16-2015 07:52 PM
by avetslawncare
23 1,515
New 14 x 7 Enclosed...
whitepropertydetail
04-15-2015 06:46 PM
04-16-2015 03:40 PM
by Steve
1 357
older used dump trucks
SECTLANDSCAPING
09-22-2011 12:33 AM
04-16-2015 12:41 PM
by biglee
21 8,174
Tax Poll
Steve
04-15-2015 02:13 PM
04-15-2015 02:13 PM
by Steve
0 338
lawn care by Aj
aj10261984
04-14-2015 06:50 PM
04-15-2015 01:43 PM
by Steve
2 376
Contact last years...
googus
01-28-2015 08:13 AM
04-15-2015 12:54 PM
by SC93
7 1,383
trying to sign up for...
JBENI
04-14-2015 10:20 AM
04-14-2015 12:11 PM
by Steve
1 1,207
» Popular Tags
ad landscaping aerocore apartment complex auger bark billy goat brushcutter blades blowout bob villa collections commercial contract help curb appeal services demonstration design edging employee problems equipment rental facebook ferris flyers foreman grass growing a lawn care business hardscapes hills hiring husqvarna hydraulic john deere quik trac landscape landscape services landscaping training lawn aeration lawn care lawn mowing marketing marketing secrets more customers business mr dave mulch ordinance past due patio install per hour charge pricing profit on employee pto push versus ride running a business scag v-ride scripts secrets to landscaping seo shell small engine repair square foot steep lawns sulky theft toro grand stand trailer tree trimmer rack truck new used landscape up sell employee web design website won't return www.greenturion.co.za
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:24 PM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:24 PM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy