Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Just starting your lawn care or landscaping business? > Community Assistance

Community Assistance Community questions, comments, and suggestions. Problems posting? Email me.

seeking a pulley


Community Assistance

Community questions, comments, and suggestions. Problems posting? Email me.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 08-31-2010, 11:40 AM
stevef1201 stevef1201 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 1,040
Rep Power: 6
stevef1201 is on a distinguished road
Question seeking a pulley

I currently have a 6 and 1/2 inch pulley on the engine shaft and am looking to change it to a 7 and 1/2 or 8 inch pulley to increase blade speed. Where in the heck would I find such a thing?
Any leads would be helpful
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #2  
Old 08-31-2010, 01:37 PM
SuperiorPower SuperiorPower is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 57
Rep Power: 4
SuperiorPower is on a distinguished road
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
I would not recommend doing that. It could cause you to have lots of unforeseen mechanical problems. With that in mind, I can not in good conscience give you places to get pulleys that would permit you to modify the mechanical construction of your mower. Higher blade speeds on a mower, not designed for such speeds, could cause additional vibration, fatigue, premature failure of bearings and other important components.

Remember, larger pulleys would also require longer belts. How would you know the belt size needed?

But the bottom line is, I have to ask, why would you want to increase your blade tip speed? After all, the manufacturer designed it to operate at the best blade tip speed for your mower. I would not modify that.
__________________
One of a dying breed; the servicing dealer.

"Servicing Dealer" definition: A dealer who not only sells new equipment but also services what he sells. This dealer will be factory certified to make these repairs. Find them. Support them.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 08-31-2010, 03:27 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,181
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Correct me if I am wrong here, but by doing that, you may increase the speed but you lower the cutting power.

Conversely if you make the pulley smaller, you lower the speed but increase the torque.

Just like a bicycle with multiple gears.

Somewhere in between max speed and max torque, the manufacturers find the optimal setting for both.

You can't increase speed and torque without using a larger engine.
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 08-31-2010, 04:42 PM
stevef1201 stevef1201 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Central Florida
Posts: 1,040
Rep Power: 6
stevef1201 is on a distinguished road
Default

I replaced a 13.5 hp motor with a 22 hp motor, so that takes care of the power problems Steve. My Mechanic says that increasing blade speed will not cause any great problems as long I keep the blades balanced, which he says he can do when he sharpens them (which he does every two days for me-free! He is my next door neighbor whose grass I cut free)
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 08-31-2010, 04:51 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,181
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Theoretically, you should be able to order any sized pulley you want

http://www.mowpart.com/Pulleys/c505/index.html

Then you will need to use a piece of string or rope and wrap it around the pulleys. Mark the length and then measure it to figure out what sized belt you will need.

Let us know how it works and take some pics.

What made you change the engine?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 08-31-2010, 09:14 PM
CheapNEasy CheapNEasy is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Georgia
Age: 30
Posts: 119
Rep Power: 6
CheapNEasy is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Keep in mind as Superior Power said....

Just because you upped the engine size, doesnt mean the DECK, Spindles, Bearings, and blades will adjust to the upped pulley.

Increased torque and speed adds stress to all of these components.

Just because you could put a 454 into miata does not mean that the miata's rear end, frame, etc... will support this load... additional torque.... etc....


Would really suck to get out, with your "suped up" mower, cutting a clients lawn and have your spindle housing bust, spindle break, deck pulley fail, belt snap, deck split from the additional torque..... etc...... etc..... etc...

Just a little food for thought, a "cheap upgrade" can cost you your mower....


Maybe think about getting a better set of blades, higher lift and mulching instead.


My advice, take it or leave it.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 08-31-2010, 09:19 PM
CheapNEasy CheapNEasy is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Georgia
Age: 30
Posts: 119
Rep Power: 6
CheapNEasy is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by stevef1201 View Post
I currently have a 6 and 1/2 inch pulley on the engine shaft and am looking to change it to a 7 and 1/2 or 8 inch pulley to increase blade speed. Where in the heck would I find such a thing?
Any leads would be helpful
Wait, pulley on the shaft? What type of mower are you even running?

To increase the pulley on the engine side, to make the blades faster, would require a new clutch.... The other pulley would run the hydro drive. As for rebuilding the clutch.... I myself would NEVER change the clutch pulley size. After all they are quite expensive.

Once again, I suggest not reworking your most vital piece of equipment, the engineers have designed it to work fluidly with all the components.

Invest in a new set of blades to compensate, this would be your best option.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-08-2010, 11:02 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,181
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Any updates on this? Did you experiment with the new pulleys?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Customer letters
kslawn
Today 06:17 AM
Today 06:17 PM
by kslawn
2 51
Crop Rotation Techniques...
eastsidelandcare
07-17-2014 03:47 PM
Today 05:53 PM
by eastsidelandcare
2 124
Selling lawns like...
eastsidelandcare
07-17-2014 03:51 PM
Today 05:49 PM
by eastsidelandcare
2 161
Scag new "Eliminator"......
ExtremeLawncareServices
07-20-2014 10:45 AM
Today 05:37 PM
by Just for Cuts
9 199
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
03-22-2014 09:12 AM
Today 03:55 PM
by stevef1201
75 4,270
Should I ?
googus
Yesterday 04:06 PM
Today 03:48 PM
by googus
3 106
need professional advice...
Fiddlers_green
07-20-2014 07:21 PM
Today 12:42 PM
by Steve
3 132
new to me box truck
jrayb39667
03-06-2014 10:20 PM
Today 12:40 PM
by Steve
15 1,309
Need help determining...
Jbss861
07-20-2014 02:33 PM
Today 12:35 PM
by Steve
10 224
My First Apartment...
SSLCtn
05-26-2014 10:17 PM
Today 12:14 PM
by Steve
14 819
Got my first lawn job...
SGL1
06-11-2014 09:19 PM
Today 11:55 AM
by Steve
26 1,103
Lawn Service back in...
LawnCareMan280
07-18-2014 09:00 PM
Today 11:48 AM
by Steve
4 174
Overspray?
stevef1201
07-21-2014 04:20 PM
Today 11:39 AM
by Steve
3 84
Hello Everyone! Newbie...
SLKlawn
07-17-2014 06:22 PM
Yesterday 01:53 PM
by Steve
6 205
Proper height for lawn
rob lederhilger
05-26-2014 08:01 AM
07-21-2014 02:53 PM
by LawnDoctor
9 607
Blade sharpener
Just for Cuts
07-04-2014 12:31 PM
07-21-2014 01:48 PM
by Steve
9 443
What's my business worth?
Chaz
07-16-2014 01:35 PM
07-21-2014 01:45 PM
by Steve
4 219
Single tree, mow customer
WesleySnips
06-27-2014 10:12 AM
07-21-2014 01:04 PM
by Steve
12 496
1.5 Acre Jungle
WesleySnips
07-15-2014 05:57 PM
07-20-2014 11:31 AM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
21 517
Gopher schedule software
Ray
07-18-2014 04:13 PM
07-18-2014 04:13 PM
by Ray
0 112
2006 Chevy fuel pump...
KevinsLawns
07-17-2014 08:39 PM
07-18-2014 11:51 AM
by Steve
1 115
Halfway point of year!
Steve
07-01-2014 12:08 PM
07-18-2014 11:38 AM
by Steve
14 658
I got told to leave and...
gwilson98
06-16-2014 02:07 PM
07-17-2014 11:43 AM
by Steve
16 969
Hey guys this is the...
prmenter@gmail.com
07-07-2014 08:23 PM
07-16-2014 08:10 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
28 705
Mowing the hills
prmenter@gmail.com
07-08-2014 12:22 PM
07-16-2014 05:00 PM
by Just for Cuts
18 640
Say Hello !!!
Steve
03-19-2007 11:18 AM
07-15-2014 05:38 PM
by icon2000
1,184 318,482
need some help geting...
dalvan0
07-13-2014 09:28 PM
07-15-2014 11:56 AM
by Steve
5 216
new trailer help
mattthelawnguy
07-11-2014 08:21 PM
07-15-2014 11:42 AM
by Steve
9 319
Classified Ad Template...
bcfb
06-05-2013 02:40 AM
07-15-2014 11:16 AM
by Steve
15 3,654
Husqvarna pz 60
CDLAWNCARE
07-06-2014 06:50 PM
07-15-2014 08:53 AM
by kslawn
10 392
Lowballers
Chaz
07-11-2014 03:55 PM
07-14-2014 12:27 PM
by Steve
5 323
My new side job
Sprinkler Buddy
05-10-2014 05:23 AM
07-14-2014 12:15 PM
by Steve
10 785
Illegal spraying
GoGreenerKS
07-04-2014 09:11 AM
07-13-2014 10:36 PM
by GoGreenerKS
10 503
New Mower and Trailer
Chaz
06-25-2014 12:04 PM
07-13-2014 06:25 PM
by SGL1
7 508
What Fertilizer to Use?
acrajchel
04-07-2014 01:56 PM
07-12-2014 07:36 PM
by SGL1
21 1,827
Fuel and fuel additives
SGL1
07-06-2014 10:23 AM
07-11-2014 07:53 PM
by SGL1
15 500
Questions for a patchy...
jumcgee
07-09-2014 08:42 AM
07-11-2014 12:34 PM
by Steve
1 177
toro proline blades wont...
boog
06-25-2014 06:26 PM
07-11-2014 05:28 AM
by kslawn
18 607
Contents of Marketing to...
prmenter@gmail.com
07-09-2014 05:25 PM
07-10-2014 03:23 PM
by Steve
3 262
Shindaiwa
CLB454
05-13-2014 09:04 PM
07-10-2014 03:04 PM
by Steve
14 741
Starting New in FL
mmcuttrim
08-06-2010 09:22 AM
07-10-2014 02:44 PM
by Steve
48 11,200
Bid help 45 on acre...
Priggan
06-26-2014 12:56 PM
07-09-2014 08:38 AM
by kslawn
7 487
need help bidding fence...
veteranslawncaresystems
07-03-2014 10:33 AM
07-08-2014 12:00 PM
by Steve
5 348
Trimmer or Knife?
gwilson98
07-04-2014 09:56 PM
07-07-2014 02:41 PM
by Steve
6 311
Started a New Solar Lawn...
Solar Lawn Care
06-08-2013 01:40 AM
07-07-2014 01:55 PM
by Steve
37 7,374
New Canadian Member
coppervalley
07-04-2014 02:15 PM
07-07-2014 01:12 PM
by Steve
1 213
Happy Independance...
stevef1201
07-04-2014 07:05 AM
07-07-2014 01:01 PM
by Steve
2 213
Echo PE 266 edger
stevef1201
07-01-2014 01:28 PM
07-07-2014 12:47 PM
by Steve
4 291
30 Inch Push Mowers Pros...
Billy Goat
06-27-2013 08:07 PM
07-06-2014 01:50 PM
by SGL1
21 5,186
Poulan Pro trimmers
SGL1
06-30-2014 11:16 PM
07-05-2014 09:32 PM
by SGL1
20 493
» Popular Tags
2wd 4x4 ads birdscaping care charge christmas christmas light hanging collections subcontractor commercial craigslist customers ditches ecosymbiosis employee problems exmark fall ferris four wheel drive franchise gopherhaul grass gravely holiday how much to charge how to bid hydraulic installation invoice labor cost late lawn lawn care business seo lawn care business show lawn care business website lawn care business website seo lawn care seo lawn care website lawn service leaf cleanup lesco lighting brass outdoor lights marketing mowing mulch estimate new buisness podcast promotion riding mower rotating running a business scag scag v-ride season seo starting a business steep lawns stihl sulky theft of services tips top dresser toro trailer mate pro truck new used landscape upsell walk behind walker winter money making ideas won't return
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:09 PM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:09 PM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy