Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Lawn Care, Landscaping, and Property Management Forums > Tree Care, Irrigation, Landscaping, Hardscapes

Tree Care, Irrigation, Landscaping, Hardscapes
Discuss issues dealing with landscapes, hardscapes, exterior landscape lighting and lighting fixtures, lawn irrigation, sprinklers, sprinkler heads, mulch, retaining walls, etc.

Landscape Contractor Experience


Tree Care, Irrigation, Landscaping, Hardscapes

Discuss issues dealing with landscapes, hardscapes, exterior landscape lighting and lighting fixtures, lawn irrigation, sprinklers, sprinkler heads, mulch, retaining walls, etc.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #11  
Old 09-02-2009, 09:08 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,603
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Was this the machine you used?



It must have been a real kick to use.

Could you ever see yourself getting any larger equipment like that? How much do they charge per hour to have that on a job site?

Also I was wondering, can you use a jack hammer attachment on an excavator to clear away bedrock or is it better to just blast it?

__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #12  
Old 09-05-2009, 06:24 AM
picframer's Avatar
picframer picframer is offline
Andy
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 2,885
Rep Power: 9
picframer will become famous soon enough
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
Was this the machine you used?



It must have been a real kick to use.

Could you ever see yourself getting any larger equipment like that? How much do they charge per hour to have that on a job site?

Also I was wondering, can you use a jack hammer attachment on an excavator to clear away bedrock or is it better to just blast it?

That looks like an older one Steve but looks to be the same size, it was a blast to use.

Personally I have no interest in owing big machines like that, it's a very focused market that you would be after and I like to work outside the box.

The jackhammer attachment in your image is the same as what this company used, only 5 or 6 times larger. I talked to Deere about getting one a month ago for another job as they bring in $250. an hour, However Deere and google search showed me they are desperate hard on your equipment and prone to brake on a regular basis.
__________________
Andy
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 10-03-2009, 02:22 PM
mdvaden's Avatar
mdvaden mdvaden is offline
Members
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 4
Rep Power: 7
mdvaden is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Experience is indespensible.

There are several ways to get it too. Landscape contractors, pond installers, university campus landscape departments, etc..

Without experience, nobody can offer good customer service when beginning a business, because there is nothing valuable to serve, even with a guarantee.
__________________
M. D. Vaden - mdvaden.com
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 10-03-2009, 08:45 PM
picframer's Avatar
picframer picframer is offline
Andy
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 2,885
Rep Power: 9
picframer will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by mdvaden View Post
Experience is indespensible.

There are several ways to get it too. Landscape contractors, pond installers, university campus landscape departments, etc..

Without experience, nobody can offer good customer service when beginning a business, because there is nothing valuable to serve, even with a guarantee.
I have hired staff from community colleges that teach heavy equipment courses, not one was worth a dam, couldn`t read a grade if their life depended on it and screwed up on several drains, not sure what they teach, give me three or four days with someone that know nothing but wants to learn and I will give you the best excavator or loader operator going, it took a month to get everyone trained but they all know their stuff well.

We ran three tree crews this summer with three industrial chippers I bought it took a few days to show them the ropes then I moved on, I started this company in April mainly for the fun of it and a chance to work with my son who goes to university, it will gross around 400,000 this year and I pill push it over a million next and then probably sell and do something else. I have done this with 5 other companies, it`s simple.
__________________
Andy
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 10-04-2009, 05:58 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,603
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Nice work! What would you like to do next?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 10-04-2009, 06:53 PM
mdvaden's Avatar
mdvaden mdvaden is offline
Members
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 4
Rep Power: 7
mdvaden is an unknown quantity at this point
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by picframer View Post
I have hired staff from community colleges that teach heavy equipment courses, not one was worth a dam, couldn`t read a grade if their life depended on it and screwed up on several drains, not sure what they teach, give me three or four days with someone that know nothing but wants to learn and I will give you the best excavator or loader operator going, it took a month to get everyone trained but they all know their stuff well.

We ran three tree crews this summer with three industrial chippers I bought it took a few days to show them the ropes then I moved on, I started this company in April mainly for the fun of it and a chance to work with my son who goes to university, it will gross around 400,000 this year and I pill push it over a million next and then probably sell and do something else. I have done this with 5 other companies, it`s simple.
Yeah ... I noticed the same thing. Worked with someone who had a Masters and headed a college hort program. They were just trying to get some field work in. The person was not even sure how to use a shovel.

It can be bad from both ends sometimes. Folks can have a lot of college and not have the experience. Then there are the guys off the street, or with just a year experience and they are not worth a damn to run a landscape business.

It basically takes at least 5 years to really understand soil, trees, diseases and growth. Anyone who thinks it can be done with less does not know what they are talking about.

There is a wide gap between workers for landscape contracting, and the actual owner manager who has to oversee. The one option is an owner who hires someone who has mastered the trade. Like in Oregon. That's why we have two licenses here. A business license. And an individual license which requires a test. The business license is not issued unless someone in the company has the individual license.

One out of ten people pass all the Oregon landscape exams first time through.

For this thread, the opening post really sets the groundwork for the goals:

Quote:
Originally Posted by sasquatchmonk View Post
Alright, well for starters, I run part landscaping service as of right now, go to school full-time, and work elsewhere part-time. I am a very busy man but I hope next summer to go full time with the business. Atleast for the summer. One major goal is to really kick it in the a** and start getting some contractor experience such the goes beyond mowing grass and cleaning gardens. I am talking about ponds, outdoor kitchens, retaining walls, and so on. Right now I am reading landscape construction books when I am not studying for horticulture degree stuff. Do you guys think it is good to get some experience under a contractor or just keep reading and 'attempt' to do it for the first time at someone's property? It is just really hard trying to find the niche experience along with all the other stuff that comes with it. My wife wants me to work with contractor to gather some experience, but if I am doing my own thing next summer, why should I spend my time making someone else rich?
They have a long term goal that is multi-faceted and will involve reams of agronomy, horticulture, some arboriculture and some masonry and construction.

And it seems that they are on the right path.

Staying on the right path probably involves stepping up responsibility in components or steps, and allowing 5 to 7 years until the whole operation is in full gear offering all phases.
__________________
M. D. Vaden - mdvaden.com

Last edited by mdvaden; 10-04-2009 at 06:59 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 10-04-2009, 07:15 PM
picframer's Avatar
picframer picframer is offline
Andy
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
Posts: 2,885
Rep Power: 9
picframer will become famous soon enough
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
Nice work! What would you like to do next?
That is two years down the road, I need to continue to build this company, I will add even bigger gear next year, find at least two more product offerings, it will probably be sold in 2011.

I am currently researching wood pellet manufacturing as there is major demand, a lot of mills around here, start up will be about 5 million so I dunno....will think of something, I generally do
__________________
Andy
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 10-04-2009, 10:06 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,603
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Quote:
I am currently researching wood pellet manufacturing as there is major demand, a lot of mills around here, start up will be about 5 million so I dunno....will think of something, I generally do
I think I can remember a little while back on here a discussion on this topic and how much they would be in demand.
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Could you explain your experience here? Steve Community Assistance 21 04-02-2011 02:03 AM
Where do you get your lawn experience from? FourSeasons General Talk 3 01-27-2008 02:20 AM
Video at top messing up your forum experience? Steve Community Assistance 16 01-10-2008 02:20 PM
Anyone have experience with this? Little's General Business Discussions 1 08-08-2007 10:10 PM
landscape students prepare for hands-on experience Steve General Business Discussions 0 05-20-2006 02:09 PM

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Good help is hard to find
Hanks Lawn Care Services
11-19-2014 03:27 PM
Today 09:28 AM
by Hanks Lawn Care Services
8 277
leaf removal
Double J LLC
10-03-2014 05:24 PM
Today 01:08 AM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
25 2,536
Hello from Kentucky
TRV
09-30-2014 06:42 PM
Yesterday 07:45 PM
by TRV
8 1,346
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
03-22-2014 10:12 AM
Yesterday 07:00 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
176 14,163
Hi from IL
steveinil
Yesterday 02:07 PM
Yesterday 02:07 PM
by steveinil
0 37
WNY saying Hi.
Sargewesser
Yesterday 07:27 AM
Yesterday 07:27 AM
by Sargewesser
0 43
Group Buying Software as...
ferona
Yesterday 06:49 AM
Yesterday 06:49 AM
by ferona
0 43
How to: Use Thumbtack...
acrajchel
11-17-2014 06:39 PM
11-24-2014 07:58 PM
by thom
17 601
How much do you up sell...
Essex Groundskeeping
11-23-2014 07:13 PM
11-24-2014 06:29 PM
by stevef1201
8 204
This sucks...
Matther777
09-18-2014 05:56 PM
11-24-2014 05:49 PM
by biglee
16 3,231
Pressure Washing...
WesleySnips
07-31-2014 07:13 PM
11-24-2014 04:32 PM
by acrajchel
4 681
New website
Chilehead
11-20-2014 04:39 PM
11-23-2014 07:40 PM
by Just for Cuts
12 329
My site is on fronts page
tbtigers03
11-14-2014 05:58 PM
11-22-2014 10:49 PM
by Just for Cuts
16 556
Pics for website
tbtigers03
11-21-2014 05:40 PM
11-22-2014 10:01 PM
by Just for Cuts
3 182
Peco Bagger
AGPS
11-18-2014 02:20 PM
11-22-2014 05:56 PM
by AGPS
9 360
Beginner Mistakes:...
Steve
01-31-2007 12:45 PM
11-22-2014 02:42 PM
by stevef1201
22 6,224
Contract or no contract?
TRV
11-20-2014 09:18 PM
11-21-2014 09:33 PM
by TRV
3 217
Hi to you NOTHERNERS
stevef1201
11-11-2014 05:56 PM
11-21-2014 08:02 PM
by stevef1201
4 367
Billboards for marketing
ExtremeLawncareServices
11-16-2014 08:39 PM
11-21-2014 07:05 PM
by acrajchel
13 430
Belt dealer problem
googus
11-21-2014 08:45 AM
11-21-2014 06:36 PM
by Steve
2 163
What is going on with...
biglee
11-14-2014 03:04 PM
11-20-2014 02:50 PM
by biglee
40 1,015
My advice for new guys
avetslawncare
11-15-2014 09:32 AM
11-19-2014 01:47 PM
by biglee
10 561
Lawn Care business...
crieg122
10-23-2014 02:23 PM
11-19-2014 12:39 PM
by acrajchel
28 1,929
raking leaves ?
robert8509
10-22-2014 10:19 PM
11-18-2014 04:24 PM
by acrajchel
14 1,508
Leaf removal
madmedic8575
10-24-2014 05:14 PM
11-17-2014 07:34 PM
by acrajchel
6 1,240
sod job
SGlawncare
10-30-2014 09:21 PM
11-17-2014 07:10 PM
by acrajchel
7 828
Customer wants me to...
Mr. Mow
11-09-2014 07:13 AM
11-17-2014 06:48 PM
by acrajchel
10 606
Hello!
Brian3137
11-11-2014 07:15 PM
11-17-2014 06:46 PM
by acrajchel
14 534
small biz in Phoenix,AZ
anthonyramos1
11-08-2014 09:35 PM
11-17-2014 05:59 PM
by acrajchel
2 374
Client won't pay...
WesleySnips
10-30-2014 03:53 PM
11-17-2014 05:37 PM
by acrajchel
22 1,443
Government contracts
avetslawncare
11-15-2014 08:50 AM
11-17-2014 12:59 PM
by Steve
2 301
Need help on deciding a...
Brian3137
11-10-2014 06:32 PM
11-17-2014 12:44 PM
by Steve
12 571
West cost lawn prices
SGlawncare
10-09-2014 10:51 PM
11-16-2014 07:54 AM
by stevef1201
8 1,659
So how do you guys...
Mr. Mow
10-26-2014 08:55 AM
11-15-2014 08:44 AM
by avetslawncare
14 1,772
Truck, Trailer,...
hawthornelawncare
12-23-2011 01:01 AM
11-13-2014 08:35 AM
by jrs.landscaping
81 31,928
The most dangerous part...
Steve
10-06-2014 03:45 PM
11-12-2014 05:05 PM
by stevef1201
14 1,753
A little hang up in snow...
stevef1201
11-08-2014 07:05 AM
11-12-2014 12:51 PM
by Steve
4 490
Bi-weekly winter...
lxarth
11-04-2014 08:37 PM
11-12-2014 10:06 AM
by WesleySnips
9 689
taking first steps...
sizemorelawncare
11-10-2014 08:24 PM
11-11-2014 01:21 PM
by Steve
1 379
Back Pack Blower
Ian Lovejoy
11-09-2014 08:41 AM
11-11-2014 08:12 AM
by Just for Cuts
4 435
Business Cards
crieg122
10-25-2014 01:03 PM
11-11-2014 07:56 AM
by Just for Cuts
12 1,385
How the unregister?
alive101
11-04-2014 07:39 AM
11-10-2014 01:48 PM
by Steve
4 658
Belt adjustment question
googus
11-05-2014 06:43 AM
11-10-2014 01:38 PM
by Steve
5 558
New parking area
ExtremeLawncareServices
11-07-2014 09:47 PM
11-10-2014 01:25 PM
by Steve
2 400
Podcast
Shark1611
11-07-2014 05:42 PM
11-10-2014 11:41 AM
by Steve
1 362
hi, from Minnesota
rjklohn
11-07-2014 02:21 AM
11-07-2014 01:44 PM
by Steve
1 378
New to snow plowing
SS.Lawncare
11-05-2014 04:00 PM
11-07-2014 01:21 PM
by Steve
6 632
New Member
tonyap
11-05-2014 10:35 PM
11-07-2014 01:15 PM
by Steve
1 420
New to the business
jcurr33
11-05-2014 03:21 PM
11-07-2014 01:11 PM
by Steve
1 472
Lines
Matther777
11-04-2014 02:19 PM
11-07-2014 12:54 PM
by Steve
1 513
» Popular Tags
4wd apartment bid apartment lawn care estimate applying article marketing auger blades bob villa charge christmas commercial demonstration ditches edging employee problems exmark ferris first truck georgia gopherhaul grass growing a lawn care business hardscapes hiring holiday how much to charge how to how to bid john deere quik trac labor cost landscape services lawn lawn care lawn care busines plan lawn care business podcast lawn care business seo lawn care business show lawn care business website lawn care business website seo lawn care website lighting lighting brass outdoor lights mechanic mowing mulch mulch price new business new mower patio install per hour charge podcast pto running a business savannah scripts search engine optimization seo shell snow plowing starting a business start up lawn care business stihl theft toro toro grand stand trailer mate pro tree up sell employee walk behind walker
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:43 AM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:43 AM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy