Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Just starting your lawn care or landscaping business? > Starting a lawn care business.

Starting a lawn care business. How to start a lawn mowing business, lawn care business, or landscaping business. If you are starting a lawn care business, ask your questions here.

Best grass to grow in the shade?


Starting a lawn care business.

How to start a lawn mowing business, lawn care business, or landscaping business. If you are starting a lawn care business, ask your questions here.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 09-24-2007, 04:13 PM
Clean Lawn Clean Lawn is offline
Members
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 124
Rep Power: 8
Clean Lawn
Default

This is a question for all those veteran lawn professionals. I have a regular customer that is really becoming frustrated with her lawn. She has a large tree in her front lawn and cannot for the life of herself get any grass seed to take in the area around that tree. I have been told to have her use various grass seeds, watering them at least 3-5 times per day, etc... She and her husband work full time and cannot be there to water the lawn repeatedly throughout the day, so that is one factor but I would like to recommend a grass that does very well growing in the shade from this enormous tree and possible even a fertilizer that she could use along with it. Because I am a newer company I am not as familiar with the various grass seeds and fertilizer that different veteran lawn professionals have run across in their years of tending to difficult lawns but would appreciate any feedback that I could give to this client to help her get a nice lush lawn started without paying a fortune.
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #2  
Old 09-24-2007, 04:58 PM
StartALawnCareBusiness's Avatar
StartALawnCareBusiness StartALawnCareBusiness is offline
Keith
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 731
Rep Power: 0
StartALawnCareBusiness is on a distinguished road
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
Hi Clean:

Give us all a bit more info. on the type of tree. *If it's deciduous, are the leaves raked during the autumn? *This can have a great bearing on the type of grass that will take root. *Leaves alter the pH of the soil around many trees. *If you think pH is a factor, your local ag-Ex office can probably do a soil test for you...often for free when you take the sample in (don't hold me to this *) *

I have had success with Creeping Red fescue (with a mix of ryegrass) in areas like what I think you are referring to. *Creeping Red does not need constant watering. *In fact, I think you are being ill-advised from people telling you to water several times per day. *I personally think this could lead to root-rot and damage to the tree.

Also, what zone are you in. *CRF is good for my zone but it might not work for you.

Just an opinion...let's hear from others.

Keith



__________________
Start a profitable lawn care business.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-24-2007, 05:11 PM
StartALawnCareBusiness's Avatar
StartALawnCareBusiness StartALawnCareBusiness is offline
Keith
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 731
Rep Power: 0
StartALawnCareBusiness is on a distinguished road
Default

Hey Clean:

As I was walking away from my desk after the last message, I almost took a "fall" getting back here to "leave" another comment.



This customer might make for a perfect oportunity for you to try out a "be a problem solver" experiment.

Instead of selling a fert & seed job, design her a cool landscape project to go around that tree. Work in landscape fabric, mulch, strategically placed flower areas, a bird bath, a bird feeder, and a neat bench where she can sit in the shade on sunny days. Turn that ugly "can't do nuthin' with" patch into an area of beauty.

If you decide to do this, please let me know how it turns out.

Keith
__________________
Start a profitable lawn care business.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-24-2007, 05:51 PM
Little's's Avatar
Little's Little's is offline
Brandon
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Shasta Lake CA.
Posts: 814
Rep Power: 8
Little's is on a distinguished road
Default

If you are having a hard time growing just under this tree, there could be another factor. many types of trees contain a natural herbicide in their leaves. One tree in particular is the Ailanthus altissima, or the Tree-of-Heaven. This is a very wide spread tree and will be almost impossible to grow grass (or anything else) under. In fact, its herbicidal properties are so strong that scientists are working on creating an all natural herbicide from it. There are many more trees like this. Find out what type of tree it is and do a little research.
__________________
Northern California
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-24-2007, 10:08 PM
Clean Lawn Clean Lawn is offline
Members
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 124
Rep Power: 8
Clean Lawn
Default

Thanks Keith and Little's those were great posts. I really appreciate it more then my words can say. The landscape project is a great one and I am going to suggest it to my client. I know she has caught a lot of heat in the past from her neighbors (which is something she told me when she signed a contract only 2 months ago) but its an eyesore. She never asked me to do anything regarding the lawn but I was ready to suggest grass seed & fertilizer or perhaps SOD or even something else. If she and her husband like the idea perhaps even with more research on the tree which was greatly suggested by both gentlemen I can solve her problems with everything. Allowing possibly a great new landscaped project and important knowledge on her tree to increase the lush look of the rest of her lawn in the near future!
Thanks again guys your awesome!
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-05-2007, 10:17 PM
UNRgrounds
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

We had a spot in a lawn, several miles off campus Im in charge of maintaining for UNR. NOTHING WOULD GROW. The guys on grounds that have done this for 30+ years couldn't get it to grow. So a nice patio and table went in. Just be lucky you don't have grass that right now, on a weekly basis as 20,000+ people walking all over it. Sigh, if I can only convince the supervisor to thatch and overseed life will be good. Until next grow season I have to deal with it.
I 2nd the idea of suggesting some type of new landscape.
Could you tell us how large of an area this is?
What part of the US do you live in?
Any adverse soil conditions such as an inbalance of pH or high amount of clay?
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Pressure Washing Like a...
TNTurf
08-01-2014 11:47 PM
Yesterday 11:51 PM
by TNTurf
5 575
What parts do you carry...
Just for Cuts
10-17-2014 09:08 AM
Yesterday 09:51 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
15 492
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
03-22-2014 09:12 AM
Yesterday 09:32 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
154 11,086
Cheapskate Landlord...
Mr. Mow
Yesterday 06:33 AM
Yesterday 08:44 PM
by biglee
6 125
Jungle to Beautiful
stevef1201
10-17-2014 09:54 AM
Yesterday 08:39 PM
by biglee
8 306
Have you ever had to...
SouthernRootsLawnCare
07-26-2014 02:41 PM
Yesterday 08:34 PM
by biglee
10 1,656
Sunny Beach Tennis...
SGL1
10-19-2014 11:24 PM
Yesterday 07:13 PM
by SGL1
2 101
Hello, from TEXAS
sanchez5
10-17-2014 09:56 PM
Yesterday 06:15 PM
by Steve
3 227
Look out Bob Villa -...
Mr Dave
09-30-2014 10:06 AM
Yesterday 05:42 PM
by SGL1
7 1,189
how to fi d commercial...
mchampion319
10-19-2014 09:50 PM
Yesterday 04:41 PM
by Steve
1 100
Hello From Tennessee
mrmann901
10-17-2014 10:02 PM
Yesterday 04:24 PM
by Steve
1 184
questions on order to...
jack2048
10-13-2014 11:15 AM
Yesterday 03:27 PM
by Mr. Mow
15 609
Organic Lawn Care...
NHray
10-17-2014 06:05 PM
Yesterday 02:22 PM
by Steve
1 220
This sucks...
Matther777
09-18-2014 04:56 PM
Yesterday 02:14 PM
by Steve
14 2,059
Cement mixer
KevinsLawns
10-15-2014 08:03 PM
Yesterday 02:11 PM
by Steve
7 354
Hello ! New guy Rob here
RWorthley1
10-17-2014 04:05 PM
Yesterday 02:09 PM
by Steve
1 198
first year update
cmdlawncare
08-12-2014 05:41 PM
Yesterday 02:07 PM
by Steve
3 1,174
Pda
stevef1201
10-18-2014 02:05 PM
10-19-2014 11:27 PM
by SGL1
2 179
Snow Blowing
gwilson98
10-12-2014 02:21 PM
10-17-2014 02:51 PM
by Steve
6 541
Spreading Weeds?
WesleySnips
07-27-2014 09:46 PM
10-17-2014 07:49 AM
by SGL1
6 843
Grasswhoopins.com Anyone...
GRASS WHOOPINS
06-21-2011 11:38 PM
10-16-2014 01:30 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
42 9,198
I Want to buy old...
ExtremeLawncareServices
10-10-2014 10:04 PM
10-15-2014 09:12 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
6 584
Say Hello !!!
Steve
03-19-2007 11:18 AM
10-15-2014 06:43 PM
by NHray
1,190 339,857
Workmans compensation...
CDLAWNCARE
10-15-2014 08:05 AM
10-15-2014 02:57 PM
by Steve
2 327
Do you find weed eating...
chuck2s
10-15-2014 02:10 PM
10-15-2014 02:10 PM
by chuck2s
0 295
Incorporating &...
WesleySnips
10-01-2014 09:39 PM
10-15-2014 01:37 PM
by kslawn
20 1,388
Falling into business
stellarmowing
09-28-2014 04:35 PM
10-15-2014 05:57 AM
by ringahding1
8 1,405
Apartment Complex and...
lxarth
06-22-2011 01:10 PM
10-14-2014 06:25 PM
by jrs.landscaping
42 9,488
I LOVE hedge trimming
stevef1201
10-13-2014 09:05 AM
10-14-2014 01:06 PM
by Steve
5 428
Help with seeder...
ExtremeLawncareServices
10-09-2014 07:39 AM
10-13-2014 08:09 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
5 589
The Market watch
WesleySnips
10-12-2014 08:47 PM
10-13-2014 05:40 PM
by SGL1
3 432
Help pricing a large...
Bradcook21
10-07-2014 06:49 AM
10-13-2014 02:00 PM
by Steve
7 780
leaf removal
Double J LLC
10-03-2014 04:24 PM
10-13-2014 06:46 AM
by Billy Goat
19 1,407
Acerage Rake
acrajchel
04-23-2014 07:23 PM
10-12-2014 10:53 PM
by SGL1
2 746
John Deere z235 Deck
WesleySnips
09-29-2014 06:02 PM
10-12-2014 06:20 PM
by kslawn
25 1,548
Credit card contract
SGL1
10-06-2014 05:31 PM
10-12-2014 03:40 PM
by SGL1
18 971
Truck craft dump bed...
ExtremeLawncareServices
10-04-2014 08:41 PM
10-10-2014 11:35 AM
by Steve
7 869
First Time River Rock...
berryjam
10-09-2014 06:09 PM
10-10-2014 11:08 AM
by Steve
2 525
West cost lawn prices
SGlawncare
10-09-2014 09:51 PM
10-10-2014 11:03 AM
by Steve
1 514
Question?what should I...
dalvan0
09-24-2014 11:10 PM
10-09-2014 05:58 PM
by kslawn
28 2,040
Mowing the hills
EyeCatchersNow
07-08-2014 12:22 PM
10-09-2014 04:19 PM
by Just for Cuts
25 2,898
snowplowing
jshak40
09-01-2014 07:20 AM
10-09-2014 02:21 PM
by Steve
25 3,546
Changing Scag Freedom Z...
maggiedavidson
10-06-2014 12:24 PM
10-08-2014 06:34 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
7 756
The most dangerous part...
Steve
10-06-2014 02:45 PM
10-07-2014 04:18 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
3 735
Good Mower
jack2048
10-04-2014 05:34 PM
10-07-2014 01:05 PM
by Steve
7 823
Mulching fad killing...
Tree geek
10-06-2014 08:37 PM
10-06-2014 08:37 PM
by Tree geek
0 641
Help a brother...
tbtigers03
09-28-2014 11:41 AM
10-06-2014 02:53 PM
by Steve
11 1,364
Update on LawnsAway and...
Ian Lovejoy
09-28-2014 10:24 AM
10-06-2014 01:30 PM
by Steve
4 1,231
A GREAT Story
stevef1201
10-02-2014 10:33 AM
10-06-2014 12:50 PM
by Steve
6 1,036
Kohler command carb...
ExtremeLawncareServices
09-21-2014 03:09 PM
10-03-2014 07:12 PM
by kslawn
27 2,144
» Popular Tags
4wd apartment complex article marketing auger bark bid blades bob villa care charge collections collections subcontractor decorating ditches edging employee problems equipment rental estimate exmark ferris four wheel drive fundraiser gopherhaul gravely growing a lawn care business hardscapes how much to charge husqvarna installation introduction kawasaki landscape services lawn lawn care lawn care business lawn care business seo lawn care business show lawn care business website lawn care business website seo lawn care website marketing mr dave mulch new mower past due podcast promotion pto redmax reo running a business scag search engine optimization seo small engine repair snow sprayer starting a business steep lawns steve stihl theft of services top dresser toro toro grand stand trailer trimmer rack turfgrass consulting walker wood
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:16 AM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:16 AM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy