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since this turned to inmate labor check this out.

Pig Added To Decal On Police Cars By Vt. Inmate


A prison inmate who makes stationery and license plates pulled a fast one on state police by adding the image of a pig to the state decal on their cruisers.

On the 16-inch car door decals, made by prisoners in Windsor, one of the spots on a cow in a scene with mountains and a pine tree has been changed to the shape of a pig, a derogatory term for police.

A Vermont state trooper discovered the pig while inspecting his vehicle on Wednesday. State police say they believe the decals have been added to about 30 cruisers in the past year.

About 60 altered decals were made over the last couple of years, said Andy Pallito, commissioner of the Department of Corrections, which is looking into who made the modification and when.

New decals will be made by Monday at a cost of $780. The expense will be covered by a surplus in the revolving fund that supports the offender work program, Pallito said.
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To sum up this post.........

SECT and Cleaning Doc giving valid factual reasons not to be a dipsh*t.

Another giving EXCUSES why it's ok to be one.

It turned into a debate over inmates because there is no way around explaining how toilet bowl cleaner in a toilet bowl goes to a treatment plant ( which is a reclamation machine ) vs dumping it down a sewer and soak into the soil which would be the same as if the toilet drained into the rivers, streams etc.

No where in your post Snether did you explain whether DDT is safe today and previous studies were wrong. You simply said, people want to use it again. Did it all of a sudden become safe? Was it always safe and we were lied to? Or was it always safe and studies were wrong?

So people that develop sicknesses due to unsafe practices should just accept it even though other safe alternatives are in use? We all know reclamation machines are expensive, but yeesh! you're trying to run a business why should you spend money on a machine to keep everything safe and healthy? right?

Do it right or don't do it. Excuses don't make something ok to do.
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You all have valid points.

but when mixed with water, HCl becomes nothing.

The H+ ions become slightly more positive and the Cl- ions become slightly less negative allowing the water molecules to separate them, leaving you with two different chemical substances. One being Hydrogen, the other being Chlorine. And less than 2% of the whole bottle is Hydrogen Chloride, which when mixed with water is Hydrochloric Acid, until mixed with enough water to dissolve it, which doesn't take much.

And yes studies have shown that DDT is not as dangerous as once thought. The atrazine in weed and feed is more harmful at the low percentage available to you and me, than a gallon of DDT.

Also RoundUp is less harmful than a cup of coffee if ingested, no bull.

and if you would like me to site my sources, I worked in a lab at my dads during a college project. I got to read all types of report and documentation. He works for GB bio-sciences, a Syngenta corp. company. They mayke herbicides, pesticides and fungicides. Daconil, Daconate, Bueno 6, Atrazine (Louisiana plant i believe) glyphosphate. They used to make Agent Orange and DDT (diamond shamrock) back when it was used, I even got to read some of these reports, from back then they said it was all horrible stuff, now with new and better technology they have different conclusions and outlooks on benefits vs. rewards.

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Ok, how did we get on the topic of DDT when this post was on power washing? I am intrigued but confused at the same time

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Did you read?

I mentioned it after it was brought up about what's harmful and bad for the environment.

And I was simply making a point that just because some group of people say this or that is bad, doesn't mean it is.

People wanna take guns away, but 100x more people are killed by malpractice than killed by guns last year.... so if guns killing 8,XXX people is solo bad to get rid of them, then why not get rid of the doctors that killed 90,XXX people?

Sometimes in life you just gotta read through the bull crap and figure it out.
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Did you read?

I mentioned it after it was brought up about what's harmful and bad for the environment.

And I was simply making a point that just because some group of people say this or that is bad, doesn't mean it is.

People wanna take guns away, but 100x more people are killed by malpractice than killed by guns last year.... so if guns killing 8,XXX people is solo bad to get rid of them, then why not get rid of the doctors that killed 90,XXX people?

Sometimes in life you just gotta read through the bull crap and figure it out.
Oh ok, I see now. Unfortunately that's the kind of world we live in, the rich get richer while the poor get poorer and the poor foots the bills for the rich, and the Government caters to the rich.
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All it is going to take is for one green wenie to call the envoro police or you could be working next door to someone working for the EPA and you can be in some big trouble.

It has nothing to do with being rich or getting richer.

My whole point was to prevent someone from getting into trouble with bad advice. You can take it or not, makes no difference to me.

I am just glad that you are not in my area. We have enough polution to just be using chemicals indescriminately.

Your little bit may not hurt but everyone doing the same thing will. Just like the littering example. If nobody did it there would be no problem.

As for your reports, have you stopped to thing that those reports are produced by the same people that make the product?

You know why r12 and r22 are no longer made? The patent for Dupont was running out so they had to come up with the ozone hole theory.
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I know paint thinner works fine for removing oil stains
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All it is going to take is for one green wenie to call the envoro police or you could be working next door to someone working for the EPA and you can be in some big trouble.

It has nothing to do with being rich or getting richer.

My whole point was to prevent someone from getting into trouble with bad advice. You can take it or not, makes no difference to me.

I am just glad that you are not in my area. We have enough polution to just be using chemicals indescriminately.

Your little bit may not hurt but everyone doing the same thing will. Just like the littering example. If nobody did it there would be no problem.

As for your reports, have you stopped to thing that those reports are produced by the same people that make the product?

You know why r12 and r22 are no longer made? The patent for Dupont was running out so they had to come up with the ozone hole theory.
I see your point. You all have helped me with alot and I don't want to jeopardize anything by saying anything that could alter that.
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I see your point. You all have helped me with alot and I don't want to jeopardize anything by saying anything that could alter that.
Nothing is going to alter that. I used to pressure wash and I hate it when people try random stuff without any knowledge of the chemical itself.
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