Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Lawn Care, Landscaping, and Property Management Forums > Online Lawn Care Estimator - Help me bid this job

Online Lawn Care Estimator - Help me bid this job
If you need help coming up with a bid for a lawn care, landscaping, tree cutting or irrigation job, post the specifics here and pictures of the job site. If you are looking to learn about bidding, review the jobs posted here.

Fertilizer bidding war


Online Lawn Care Estimator - Help me bid this job

If you need help coming up with a bid for a lawn care, landscaping, tree cutting or irrigation job, post the specifics here and pictures of the job site. If you are looking to learn about bidding, review the jobs posted here.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 03-28-2013, 01:19 AM
grass guru grass guru is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 43
Rep Power: 4
grass guru is on a distinguished road
Default Fertilizer bidding war

I have a customer I have been servicing for 3 years now. He always gets 14 yards of mulch, lawn service w/bi-weekly trimming, and 4 apps of fertilizer/weed control. He pays cash up front. This year he said things are a little tight, so he wanted to pay monthly, which is fine. He also saw d he wasnt happy w/the fert company I subbed to last year, and wanted me to check around. I called another local company, and worked a deal out with them to do his fert. I was originally charged $150/app fr om 1st company, and upcharged him @ $180/app. The new fert company came in at $140/app, so I told him the new fert company would do it for $180 still.
Here is the problem... He called another company, and they told him they would do it for $150. He then informed me of that. So, I called my company back up, and they told me they would charge me $120, so I would be able to upcharge him @ $150. I let him know I could match $150. Now his fert company called back, and told him $138.
I dont want to get into bidding war, but his fert company that he called is also a lawn service company. I'm afraid if they get the fert contract, then they will have a foot in the door for his lawn service.
What would you do? I can match the $138 if I wanted. I can beat it into the ground and tell him I'll do it for $120, and not make money off it. I can tell $150 is the lowest I can go, and sell the benefits of using my company with me as the middle man.
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #2  
Old 03-28-2013, 07:45 AM
CS-LawnService CS-LawnService is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Paw Paw West Virginia
Age: 50
Posts: 133
Rep Power: 4
CS-LawnService is on a distinguished road
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
You can loose the 30 on the fert and still make all your profit from the rest of the year on the job or you can let the other company get a foot in the door and take the chance of loosing the whole job.

i would eat the 30 and keep the customer times are tight for every one right now so your customer is shopping around do not let him shop to much or you may loose him
__________________
Chris Hoeltke
serving Winchester Virginia and surrounding areas
C&S Lawn Service

Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 03-28-2013, 07:48 AM
dpld dpld is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: nj
Posts: 885
Rep Power: 0
dpld is on a distinguished road
Default

not for nothing but if the guy is a customer and hires you for everything why such a big mark up?
20% seems a bit excessive for making a phone call.

if you just passed the work along to a steady application co then maybe they would send some work back to you as well as any time a customer has apps done to their lawn it is a win win for you.
the lawn will look better and it will grow more there by making you look better and more money.

i myself am in a different situation because i do everything in house but i will make sure that all my accounts are getting the proper apps for fert, weed and insect control even if it is not as profitable as i would like because the healthier, greener, weed free lawn makes all my accounts look spectacular to anyone who passes by but i make more money because the lawn never stops growing.

the little bit of profit i may lose more then gets made up from the additional work i get as well as by all my accounts looking their best it sells my services for me.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-28-2013, 08:46 AM
grass guru grass guru is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 43
Rep Power: 4
grass guru is on a distinguished road
Default

20% markup is typical. Yea, I make the phone call, but if the fert company misses something, or a service call needs to be done, I make the call. If the customer isnt happy about it, they complain to me. I prepay the fert company, so I take a risk if the customer doesnt pay, or have accounting to do if they cancel mid season. Thats why the markup.

If I match or beat this fert price, thenI dont want him t ok come back and have me get into a bidding war over his lawn service. Thats my other fear.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 03-28-2013, 08:52 AM
Sprinkler Buddy's Avatar
Sprinkler Buddy Sprinkler Buddy is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Florida
Posts: 673
Rep Power: 4
Sprinkler Buddy is on a distinguished road
Default

"I dont want to get into bidding war"

Too late, your in one.

I would let the other guy have it. If your customer is looking for the cheapest deal, your gonna be replaced soon enough anyways when the first lawn guy comes along and offers to do his lawn for less than you.

With the season just beginning, replacing the account if you should lose it shouldn't be that difficult.
__________________
Don't Keep Replacing Lawn Sprinkler Heads
Protect them with "Sprinkler Buddy"
CLICK HERE > http://www.sprinklerbuddy.com

Last edited by Sprinkler Buddy; 03-28-2013 at 08:55 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 03-28-2013, 11:27 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,595
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Quote:
He also saw d he wasnt happy w/the fert company I subbed to last year, and wanted me to check around.
Did he ever say what he wasn't happy about with the fert company?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 03-28-2013, 05:02 PM
dpld dpld is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: nj
Posts: 885
Rep Power: 0
dpld is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by grass guru View Post
20% markup is typical. Yea, I make the phone call, but if the fert company misses something, or a service call needs to be done, I make the call. If the customer isnt happy about it, they complain to me. I prepay the fert company, so I take a risk if the customer doesnt pay, or have accounting to do if they cancel mid season. Thats why the markup.

If I match or beat this fert price, thenI dont want him t ok come back and have me get into a bidding war over his lawn service. Thats my other fear.

i don't know about you but one of my biggest fears would be my customer finding out that i was over charging him and making money for nothing.

you should just tell your customers that you use a particular company for your apps and send them directly to him for that service.
this way you don't have to be bothered by doing anything and covering the bill.
there is nothing wrong with telling someone you currently do not offer that service and you could even tell a white lie by stating that " i used to do everything in house but it is cheaper for my customers and easier for me to use this company that i trust to do that then do it myself ".

customers appreciate that honesty and you will gain more from that then you will by pocketing 20 or 30 bucks by trying to sneak one by them.
you could have come off as johnny on the spot if you just handed them the 130.00 price offered originally and told them that you found them a deal and saved them money.

i know in the past a mark up is normal and not out of the ordinary but in todays times and this economy people will drop someone for 1 dollar and they will not think twice about dropping someone if they feel they are getting sheep shanked
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 03-28-2013, 10:32 PM
SNethercutt SNethercutt is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 202
Rep Power: 2
SNethercutt is on a distinguished road
Default

Sounds like your winning them over.

Is that really a question that needs to be asked. Think.

Loose a $30 x 34 mowings over making $30x 5 ferts.

Makes complete sense. Please come run a company down the road from me. I wish they all ran one like that down here, I would take em to the cleaners.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 03-29-2013, 01:07 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,595
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Quote:
you should just tell your customers that you use a particular company for your apps and send them directly to him for that service.
this way you don't have to be bothered by doing anything and covering the bill.
Did you always handle things like this or was there a story on how you learned it was simply better to do it this way than the other?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Fertilizer Spreading scout21a Lawn Maintenance / Lawn Renovation 1 02-01-2011 06:18 AM
New Sod Fertilizer??? Paineless Creations Lawn Maintenance / Lawn Renovation 8 06-29-2010 05:30 PM
Fertilizer quote calvarylandscapegroup General Talk 3 04-12-2010 08:59 AM
Fertilizer? tomcat172002 General Talk 2 02-21-2010 10:16 AM
Fertilizer? ABurlison General Talk 12 11-30-2008 01:15 PM

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Belt dealer problem
googus
Today 08:45 AM
Today 09:55 AM
by Dan Tanner
1 22
Good help is hard to find
Hanks Lawn Care Services
11-19-2014 03:27 PM
Today 07:00 AM
by stevef1201
6 128
Contract or no contract?
TRV
Yesterday 09:18 PM
Yesterday 09:18 PM
by TRV
0 33
Billboards for marketing
ExtremeLawncareServices
11-16-2014 08:39 PM
Yesterday 09:17 PM
by Chilehead
10 269
New website
Chilehead
Yesterday 04:39 PM
Yesterday 06:40 PM
by Dan Tanner
1 37
Beginner Mistakes:...
Steve
01-31-2007 12:45 PM
Yesterday 04:35 PM
by Chilehead
14 5,879
How to: Use Thumbtack...
acrajchel
11-17-2014 06:39 PM
Yesterday 02:55 PM
by biglee
14 375
What is going on with...
biglee
11-14-2014 03:04 PM
Yesterday 02:50 PM
by biglee
40 840
Peco Bagger
AGPS
11-18-2014 02:20 PM
Yesterday 01:56 PM
by AGPS
7 185
My site is on fronts page
tbtigers03
11-14-2014 05:58 PM
11-19-2014 05:34 PM
by Steve
14 389
My advice for new guys
avetslawncare
11-15-2014 09:32 AM
11-19-2014 01:47 PM
by biglee
10 391
Lawn Care business...
crieg122
10-23-2014 02:23 PM
11-19-2014 12:39 PM
by acrajchel
28 1,765
raking leaves ?
robert8509
10-22-2014 10:19 PM
11-18-2014 04:24 PM
by acrajchel
14 1,383
Leaf removal
madmedic8575
10-24-2014 05:14 PM
11-17-2014 07:34 PM
by acrajchel
6 1,134
sod job
SGlawncare
10-30-2014 09:21 PM
11-17-2014 07:10 PM
by acrajchel
7 706
Customer wants me to...
Mr. Mow
11-09-2014 07:13 AM
11-17-2014 06:48 PM
by acrajchel
10 450
Hello!
Brian3137
11-11-2014 07:15 PM
11-17-2014 06:46 PM
by acrajchel
14 396
small biz in Phoenix,AZ
anthonyramos1
11-08-2014 09:35 PM
11-17-2014 05:59 PM
by acrajchel
2 268
Client won't pay...
WesleySnips
10-30-2014 03:53 PM
11-17-2014 05:37 PM
by acrajchel
22 1,285
Government contracts
avetslawncare
11-15-2014 08:50 AM
11-17-2014 12:59 PM
by Steve
2 191
Need help on deciding a...
Brian3137
11-10-2014 06:32 PM
11-17-2014 12:44 PM
by Steve
12 456
West cost lawn prices
SGlawncare
10-09-2014 10:51 PM
11-16-2014 07:54 AM
by stevef1201
8 1,530
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
03-22-2014 10:12 AM
11-16-2014 12:20 AM
by SGlawncare
172 13,784
So how do you guys...
Mr. Mow
10-26-2014 08:55 AM
11-15-2014 08:44 AM
by avetslawncare
14 1,637
Truck, Trailer,...
hawthornelawncare
12-23-2011 01:01 AM
11-13-2014 08:35 AM
by jrs.landscaping
81 31,664
The most dangerous part...
Steve
10-06-2014 03:45 PM
11-12-2014 05:05 PM
by stevef1201
14 1,611
A little hang up in snow...
stevef1201
11-08-2014 07:05 AM
11-12-2014 12:51 PM
by Steve
4 370
Hi to you NOTHERNERS
stevef1201
11-11-2014 05:56 PM
11-12-2014 12:45 PM
by Steve
1 222
Bi-weekly winter...
lxarth
11-04-2014 08:37 PM
11-12-2014 10:06 AM
by WesleySnips
9 567
taking first steps...
sizemorelawncare
11-10-2014 08:24 PM
11-11-2014 01:21 PM
by Steve
1 258
Back Pack Blower
Ian Lovejoy
11-09-2014 08:41 AM
11-11-2014 08:12 AM
by Just for Cuts
4 328
Business Cards
crieg122
10-25-2014 01:03 PM
11-11-2014 07:56 AM
by Just for Cuts
12 1,255
How the unregister?
alive101
11-04-2014 07:39 AM
11-10-2014 01:48 PM
by Steve
4 554
Belt adjustment question
googus
11-05-2014 06:43 AM
11-10-2014 01:38 PM
by Steve
5 458
New parking area
ExtremeLawncareServices
11-07-2014 09:47 PM
11-10-2014 01:25 PM
by Steve
2 286
Podcast
Shark1611
11-07-2014 05:42 PM
11-10-2014 11:41 AM
by Steve
1 254
hi, from Minnesota
rjklohn
11-07-2014 02:21 AM
11-07-2014 01:44 PM
by Steve
1 268
New to snow plowing
SS.Lawncare
11-05-2014 04:00 PM
11-07-2014 01:21 PM
by Steve
6 497
New Member
tonyap
11-05-2014 10:35 PM
11-07-2014 01:15 PM
by Steve
1 319
New to the business
jcurr33
11-05-2014 03:21 PM
11-07-2014 01:11 PM
by Steve
1 364
Lines
Matther777
11-04-2014 02:19 PM
11-07-2014 12:54 PM
by Steve
1 405
hello, new to this site
tonyorwig
10-31-2014 10:49 PM
11-04-2014 02:24 PM
by tonyorwig
3 603
Aloha from Hawaii.
Gary R
11-02-2014 12:44 AM
11-03-2014 03:02 PM
by Steve
1 508
Pavers
crieg122
10-28-2014 03:49 PM
10-31-2014 01:49 PM
by Steve
6 815
Hi Steve From West...
Mr. Mow
10-21-2014 02:59 PM
10-31-2014 12:56 PM
by Steve
5 1,129
Got my first lawn job...
SGL1
06-11-2014 10:19 PM
10-31-2014 10:53 AM
by Max Wagner
30 3,236
Gie-review / What's new...
ExtremeLawncareServices
10-25-2014 10:19 AM
10-31-2014 10:30 AM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
7 1,053
Business Name
sanchez5
10-29-2014 12:55 AM
10-31-2014 06:51 AM
by ringahding1
10 924
"Price...
Mr. Mow
10-30-2014 04:21 PM
10-31-2014 06:48 AM
by ringahding1
3 730
Help a brother...
tbtigers03
09-28-2014 12:41 PM
10-31-2014 06:41 AM
by ringahding1
15 2,607
» Popular Tags
4wd aerocore apartment bid apartment lawn care estimate applying article marketing bid billy goat brushcutter blades bush charge decorating deliquentaccounts ditches employee problems estimate exmark ferris first truck foreman gopherhaul gravely growing a lawn care business hiring how much to charge how to how to bid hydraulic installation introduction kawasaki landscape services lawn lawn care lawn care busines plan lawn care business lawn care business seo lawn care business show lawn care business website lawn care business website seo lawn care website marketing mulch mulch price new business new mower ordinance podcast pto redmax reo running a business scag v-ride search engine optimization seo shreaded snow snow plowing starting a business start up lawn care business steep lawns steve stihl toro trailer trailer mate pro truck new used landscape turfgrass consulting walker won't return
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:01 AM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:01 AM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy