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So I'm in the Houston Tx area. Crosby to be exact, in Harris County.i started my business in liberty county but soon figured out there wasn't enough potential clients there so I moved to Crosby and never looked back. Business has boomed ever since. I had 1 major account out there 350 a month 12 months out of the year mowing 2.5 acres with house and pond. 45 minute job Every other week with two people.

When I moved I let my dad handle the account. The customers do not live there, I maintain their home over an hour away along with 4 other properties.

I pay my dad and his friend $50 each to mow this account. I don't do anything but invoice and make money.

Since then I have picked up 3 other accounts.

One is 160 a month, 50 a month and 70 a month. I see no money from any of those. I just bill for it and pay the taxes. I pay my dad and his friend for mowing them.

Their ZTR's and truck, my trailer. Would it be worth it for me to spend a whole day out there 2 times a month for that amount of money. Its a 45 mile drive each way. I still get the exposure because I make them wear company shirts and have signs on my trailer.

Or should I just leave it how it is and make nothing off these accounts every month?
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Providing you have the time to do it, you should be cutting. There's no need to pay someone to do the work for you when you could be pocketing more.
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It's just a matter of time before you pick up more accounts around them, then you can make a day of it.
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Providing you have the time to do it, you should be cutting. There's no need to pay someone to do the work for you when you could be pocketing more.
I would tend to agree, unless the money he gives his father is needed additional income. I always try to look out for family when I can.

I bring my son around with me on the jobs that I don't need a crew for, I give him $10 an hr for his time and try to teach him the business. Although we make him put 50% of it in his college fund. I don't want him to run the business for me one day but I do want him to have other skills he can make money with whiles he's in college...

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He doesn't need the money, and time is a constraint for me not to work on weekends.

My dad is retiring from the chemical industry ( herbicides pesticides and fungucides) and want to work for me when he does. So I'm trying to get all the accounts out there I can to keep him busy. But on the other hand that over 600 a month I'm throwing out the window.

I need the money, he doesn't. He could retire today if he wanted but he doesn't have enough to do
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One is 160 a month, 50 a month and 70 a month. I see no money from any of those. I just bill for it and pay the taxes. I pay my dad and his friend for mowing them.

Their ZTR's and truck, my trailer. Would it be worth it for me to spend a whole day out there 2 times a month for that amount of money. Its a 45 mile drive each way.
What does it cost you to operate per hour? If you are looking at (at least) 1 and 1/2 hours to get to the jobs and get back, what would that cost you?

Now compare that to the $80 + $25 + $35 = $140 you are making to mow those three customers per visit.

Your gas costs alone could be (90 mile drive / 15 mpg) = 6 gallons * $4 gas/diesel = $24

Let's say you operate at $60 an hour. For a 90 minute commute, you're opportunity costs would be ($60 x 1.5 hours) = $90. That is the money you could be making more locally.

So take that $90 you are losing during the drive as opportunity costs, add the $24 in fuel, you are now at $114. That's $114 you are losing during that drive to bring in $140.

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