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Old 03-18-2013, 12:00 AM
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I will let you believe that chart. Just like I will let you believe the EPA estimated mileage of a new car. Hard to have a battle of wit with an unarmed person.
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I will let you believe that chart. Just like I will let you believe the EPA estimated mileage of a new car. Hard to have a battle of wit with an unarmed person.
lol, yeah I wouldnt put a ounce of faith in a manufactures claims. Theres no way the mower is cutting that much even in a straight line.
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Old 03-18-2013, 04:44 AM
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Grass guru where did you come up with those numbers. I said 6 acres took 4 hours. That would be two mowers built to handle an acre in under an hour. And then taking care of trimming. And that's only with two guys so I know nobody was screwing off because I was on the job.

And yes I agree 4 acres is possible to mow in 2 hours with one zero turn capable of mowing an acre every 30 minutes. Which is mowers that run 13-15 mph ground speed. But you also factor in the house and concrete into that... so it takes some sq ft away from the equation.
6 acres takes 2 guys 4 hours. If you start the job @ 8am, and finish @ 12, then that means you worked 4 hours, and your helper worker 4 hours. 4+4=8 man hours.


And rockys numbers are not off base. I do 4 acres of bumpy property in 1 hour 50 mins. Thats around a hedge of pines for privacy, the house, 2 private ponds, and a dozen trees. 4 acres of turf, by myself, w/60" turf tracer, and speed setting #6 most of the time, and slower around bumpy areas. She only wants it trimmed around the house. A turf tacer tops out
around 6mph. A lazer z around 10, but there are others thar top out at 13, which is what you said.
Lets do the math....
13 acres is 566,280 square feet. Square root to obtain square lot, and you have lot dimension of 752x752. A mower traveling 10mph will go 528 feet in 1 min. 752/528= 1.42. 1.42 x 60 seconds = 85.2 seconds to travel from one side of lot, to other. Add to that about 3 seconds of turn around time, and thats 88.2 seconds per swipe. Nobody can use the full 5' of deck, so if you overlap by 4" that leaves a net cut of 56", or 4. 66'. With a Lot size of 752'/4.66' = 161 swipes. 161 swipes x 88.2 seconds =14'200/60 = 236 mins. Or 4 hours if your running your lazer z wide open @ 10mph. So yes, it is possible to mow 13 acres in 4 hours on one 60"z., or less than 6 hours with a turf tracer. (a turf tracer can be turned around in half the time as a Z)
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Thank you for some actual solid math with accurate numbers.

I like how these guys above are talking trash about the chart I provided.
So uh...where are YOUR sources? I provided a source that is accurate. It can't be biased, it uses a simple equation provided at the bottom. Math can't lie.
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If you now 4.5 acres on a mower built to now an acre every 40 minutes, and you are mowing 4 times that in 2x the time.... sign me up for a fleet of them please. I will take them all.
Are you telling me a 60 in lazer will only cut 1.5 acres an hr, maybe at idle. They cut more like 4 acres an hr, and thats with older equipment. The newer big blocks are faster than that. We are here to help him out. Without looking at it , I think 300 is a fair bid. Is it 13 servicable acres? If you are uneasy about it go up 50 more.

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Rocky do u realize you just said by both accounts that a mower is capable of mowing 3 acres an hour? Those are rediculous numbers my friend. That's an acre every 20 minutes.



With some of the numbers thrown around on this post, I see why so many business come and go.
I corect myself its my 60 lazer and ive been at this stuff for 18 to 20 years wide open sharp blades is how big properties are cut and slow down a bit in visual areas. Im curios what type of mower do you cut with ?? The property that i speek of i have been cutting for 14 years i stand by my time claim.
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I have a 52 that goes 9mph 3.77 acres
a 52 that goes 12mph 5 acres
and a 60 that goes 11.5 mph 5.5 acres

So I should cut 14.27 acres a hour, right? thats at 80% efficiency.

Ill tell you right now those 3 mowers cant mow even 10 acres a hour.

Engine sizes have nothing to do with ground speed.
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Rocky do u realize you just said by both accounts that a mower is capable of mowing 3 acres an hour? Those are rediculous numbers my friend. That's an acre every 20 minutes.



With some of the numbers thrown around on this post, I see why so many business come and go.
I corect myself its my 60 lazer and ive been at this stuff for 18 to 20 years wide open sharp blades is how big properties are cut and slow down a bit in visual areas. Im curios what type of mower do you cut with ?? The property that i speek of i have been cutting for 14 years i stand by my time claim.
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I have a 52 that goes 9mph 3.77 acres
a 52 that goes 12mph 5 acres
and a 60 that goes 11.5 mph 5.5 acres

So I should cut 14.27 acres a hour, right? thats at 80% efficiency.

Ill tell you right now those 3 mowers cant mow even 10 acres a hour.

Engine sizes have nothing to do with ground speed.
1.)Wide open minimal trimming 4.5 acres in 1:35 with a well worn 60 lazer 25 Kohler
2.)The scag cheetah i bought Saturday destroys the old exmark .
3.)The big blocks dont drop as much in the thick grass as smaller engines do I know this to be true b/c i speek from experience. When a engine boggs down ground speed slows as well.
4.) This property is not a neighborhood property with small fences and gates it is wide open big long swipes.
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1.)Wide open minimal trimming 4.5 acres in 1:35 with a well worn 60 lazer 25 Kohler
2.)The scag cheetah i bought Saturday destroys the old exmark .
3.)The big blocks dont drop as much in the thick grass as smaller engines do I know this to be true b/c i speek from experience. When a engine boggs down ground speed slows as well.
4.) This property is not a neighborhood property with small fences and gates it is wide open big long swipes.
Not even commenting on your posted time but the exmark claim. There actually right about my walk behind though. Either there lying about top speeds or the mowers are losing efficiency at higher speeds.

your right about bogging but that only comes to play in high grass. The pumps dictate speed otherwise.

I run a 60 29 kaw, 52 27 koh and a 52 22 koh.

I wouldnt compare it to a yard. I'm comparing to the 24 acre campground I cut, thats pretty much wide open besides the dirt roads. We were lucky to get out of there in 5 hours.

The campground owned a 48" lazer and a 60" cub that was broken at the time. They were paying for the simple reason it took them days to cut and trim the place. If they could cut that place in a reasonable time they wouldnt pay me $2700 a cut.
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