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Again, it's not all about the cost. I can more than afford a trailer, but I would much much rather not have one.
You have to be much more careful when driving. You have to be responsible for it. You have to buy it, pay taxes on it, get it titled and registered. You have to buy tires for it when they go bald. You have to have a place to park it. Backing up takes a lot of skill.
Not even to mention how stupid it would look to tow around a 6x8 utility trailer only to have a single 36" mower in it.
Before I got the money for my trailer I drove around with my 36" in the back of my dakota using ramps. It wasn't a problem.

If you don't want a trailer of course you don't have to buy one, it's not a necessity. but the reasons you give aren't really legit reasons.

Why are you worried if you look "stupid"? Who cares what other people think? I drive around with a 5x8 with one 36" in it, heck I used to drive around with it in the back of the truck and ramps and didn't care what others think.

The other things you listed are part of business....you OWN a business, the things you just listed are what you have to do with all of your equipment and property. If your state has property taxes, you have to pay taxes on your equipment and register your equipment so they can assess the taxes. Not to mention business licenses in the cities you perform services in. You may not have to, there are a couple towns here that dont', but one does even if I mow one lawn in that city whether my business is physically in that city or not.

No offense but if the responsibility of owning a trailer is that big of a deal to you then owning your own business isn't going to pan out.
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Ratchet sorry I quoted you,

I read what the other guy wrote earlier, read it in your post and didn't realize it was you being sarcastic.

My edit time ran out to change it......

Sooooooooooooooooo what I wrote was meant for googus.

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i Dont See The Point Of Upgrading From A 21" To A 30". Your Only Going To Get About A 20% Time Saving.

Hedgemaster Has A Thread On Here About Going From A 21" To A 36" And Said Theres Not Much Difference.

A Option Is A Cargo Carrier That Connects To The Hitch. I Seen Them Carrying Large Snowblowers But A Walk Behind Might Fit.

I Operated A 44" Walk Behind Out Of A S10 For A Year. So It Can Be Done With A Bigger Mower And Smaller Truck.
Im Going To Give You Some Advice, If A 48 Would Fit Into The Yards You Are Going After, Then Get It With A Hydro. Quit Thinking So Small. I Would Not Bid On A Property That Required A Small 21 There Is No Money To Be Made Of Any Significance With Small Mowers. At The Least Get A 36 Hydro With A Velky. Once You Get Serious It Will Rarely Be Usded Because You Will Be On Your 60. I Realize We All Have A Budget But Ask Yourself When Was The Last Time You Saw Someone Serious Pushing A Mower? Regardless If Its A 21 Or A 30. Im Trying To Save You My Same Mistakes I Made 18 Years Ago. I Appologise For Being In All Caps My Computer Is Stuck In Caps Lock.
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Again, it's not all about the cost. I can more than afford a trailer, but I would much much rather not have one.
You have to be much more careful when driving. You have to be responsible for it. You have to buy it, pay taxes on it, get it titled and registered. You have to buy tires for it when they go bald. You have to have a place to park it. Backing up takes a lot of skill.
Not even to mention how stupid it would look to tow around a 6x8 utility trailer only to have a single 36" mower in it.
You cannot be serious about cutting for a living or part time and count on using a 21 in mower on a rack behind a truck are you? There is such a thing as the cost of doing business. I am not trying to insult you but your argument against a trailer is without merrit. Quit thinking of this as a hobby and get a little more serious about making it a for profit. Not to mention a bigger mower cuts way higher cut quality.
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i can see why you wouldnt want a trailor, but i find it hards not to spend money on things that arent a neccisity, so your doing good on that perspective
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You cannot be serious about cutting for a living or part time and count on using a 21 in mower on a rack behind a truck are you? There is such a thing as the cost of doing business. I am not trying to insult you but your argument against a trailer is without merrit. Quit thinking of this as a hobby and get a little more serious about making it a for profit. Not to mention a bigger mower cuts way higher cut quality.
That's my truck in the previous pic. (It's lettered now, but same setup)
That is how I worked my first season - a 21" Toro on a cargo carrier and the rest of my equipment in the bed.

Last year I bought a 36" Ferris hydro so I could take on some larger properties.
I have "city days" where I only use the 21" - there is no other option - no other mower can be used due to either lack of access, or terrain. Mixed in with those jobs are a few that I COULD use the 36" on, but overall, it's not worth the hassle of dragging a trailer around and trying to find a place to park it.

Eventually, I'll be able to transition away from the smaller lawns and, add a ZTR and take on more profitible jobs, but for right now, I do what I can with what I have. I can tell you that there are plenty of people who work in the city using nothing more than a 21" mower, so it can be done if you use your head, and get yourself a nice clientel list.

Also, in regards to the comment made by the OP regarding the look of hauling a trailer with nothing but a 36" - "Who cares?"
Do what works for YOU. People (mostly anonymous internet landscapers) will make fun of my setup. When what they think starts paying my bills, I may begin to take note, but until then, I do what works best for me.

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You cannot be serious about cutting for a living or part time and count on using a 21 in mower on a rack behind a truck are you? There is such a thing as the cost of doing business. I am not trying to insult you but your argument against a trailer is without merrit. Quit thinking of this as a hobby and get a little more serious about making it a for profit. Not to mention a bigger mower cuts way higher cut quality.
This I find insulting. I am on my 3rd year and still mow with 21'' mowers I did buy a 48" last year but have only mowed with it once. 99% of my mowing is small residential lawns i don't need to waste my money on big mowers and big trailer. just to look big this is how most people get them selves in trouble thinking they are what they aren't, If he doesn't feel comfortable buying a big mower or a big trailer then he shouldn't it doesn't make him any less a business man then anyone else.A smart man invests in his company but only what it can afford in order to grow. I own no one anything if I wanted to quit tomorrow I could sell my gear and walk away with money in my pocket unlike a lot of guys I know that have all the cool tools and equipment but are slaves to the bank. BIGGER is not always better and as for a bigger mower cuts better well that is BullSh1t and anyone who believe that shouldn't be in the business that mowing is a skill yes equipment helps but the best mower in the wrong hands can cut like crap. There I am done that is my rant on this subject. this is part of the reason I stopped come here before people engaging there mouth before checking if their brain is in gear.
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In my projected 10 mile area is 90% cookie cutter houses set on between 7,000 and 10,000 sq ft lots. With many of then with fenced in back yards. I have only a few clients now and use a 21in. I wouldn't call it a hobbie but I don't want to be a huge company if you guys understand. My thought and i could be wrong is if I buy the 30 now/ save money on a 36in with additions/ trailor, then if I get more accounts then invest in a different set up.


I have a local guy that is killing me driving his john deer down the street dropping who knows what on there lawn then putting a million holes in their lawn. Now I know I am new but everything I have read states you shouldn't do both at the same time. Also what kills me he is not registered or license.
Good at working it I guess- I am just to legit and honest.

I don't mind putting money into my business. Just driving a 36in onto my 5.5 bed scares me a bit and just don't see spending the coin/storage on a trailer
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You cannot be serious about cutting for a living or part time and count on using a 21 in mower on a rack behind a truck are you? There is such a thing as the cost of doing business. I am not trying to insult you but your argument against a trailer is without merrit. Quit thinking of this as a hobby and get a little more serious about making it a for profit. Not to mention a bigger mower cuts way higher cut quality.
I'm 18 years old and I currently live in an apartment while majoring in mechanical engineering. I live in an extremely dense urban area with small, complicated lawns with lots of narrow gates.
I think I've done very well with the cards I've been dealt.

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This I find insulting. I am on my 3rd year and still mow with 21'' mowers I did buy a 48" last year but have only mowed with it once. 99% of my mowing is small residential lawns i don't need to waste my money on big mowers and big trailer. just to look big this is how most people get them selves in trouble thinking they are what they aren't, If he doesn't feel comfortable buying a big mower or a big trailer then he shouldn't it doesn't make him any less a business man then anyone else.A smart man invests in his company but only what it can afford in order to grow. I own no one anything if I wanted to quit tomorrow I could sell my gear and walk away with money in my pocket unlike a lot of guys I know that have all the cool tools and equipment but are slaves to the bank. BIGGER is not always better and as for a bigger mower cuts better well that is BullSh1t and anyone who believe that shouldn't be in the business that mowing is a skill yes equipment helps but the best mower in the wrong hands can cut like crap. There I am done that is my rant on this subject. this is part of the reason I stopped come here before people engaging there mouth before checking if their brain is in gear.
Could not agree more. 100% spot on. Exact situation I'm in. A trailer would be much more trouble than it's worth living in such a dense city that I live in.
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You cannot be serious about cutting for a living or part time and count on using a 21 in mower on a rack behind a truck are you? There is such a thing as the cost of doing business. I am not trying to insult you but your argument against a trailer is without merrit. Quit thinking of this as a hobby and get a little more serious about making it a for profit. Not to mention a bigger mower cuts way higher cut quality.
Actually you're wrong.

One of the largest companies in St Louis started out with a pushmower and had only pushmowers for a few years. 20 years later, multiple crews, shop, their own mulch yard.

Another company that mows here uses only pushmowers. They have multiple crews, have about 200 clients and do quite well.

There are a couple guys here that do the same.

Gotta love the guys that think their way is the only way and anyone else just isn't serious.
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