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80 Yards of mulch how much would you charge???


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well I looked at the job the other day and they probably do need the 80yds (I thought the past landscaper was just over doing it a bit but no its going to be close) I gotta turn the bid in on Monday so now I gotta do some thinking and try to get some pricing together. Will keep you posted.
same here. When I checked the beds out some had barely a dusting of mulch and others were a inch or two. So I'm thinking they want to get it all done at 3 inches this year. I knocked $9 a yard off mine. Comes out to a $1000 less.

The yard told me they will give me discounts on over 50 yards but this biggest discount is for the supplier to just dump it there. The problem there is it will be in 50 yard piles. So I might have to pay a bit extra to get it dropped in 20 yard piles.
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So, to actually answer the OP's question:

JLM would charge $3,600 (80yards * $45/yard)
SECT would charge triple that, at $10,800
and Greener Grounds would charge $7,600 for 80yds at $95/yard.
Big money. Biiiiig money.
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Your insane to hand spread anything more than 20yds. Anything over that, i sub out to a blower. They usually give bulk discounts. Think about it, 1hr/yard, you will have 5 guys working 2 full days on it, plus all time hauling it in, or a huge portion of parking lot with mulch (im sure the customer will love that one!) If its blown in, you can still make $ on markup, and it can be applied at 10 yards/hr, and you dont have to do a thing.
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Your insane to hand spread anything more than 20yds. Anything over that, i sub out to a blower.
How does your pricing change if you sub it out? How do the profits change? I am sure many are wondering if it is more profitable or not.
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Your insane to hand spread anything more than 20yds. Anything over that, i sub out to a blower. They usually give bulk discounts. Think about it, 1hr/yard, you will have 5 guys working 2 full days on it, plus all time hauling it in, or a huge portion of parking lot with mulch (im sure the customer will love that one!) If its blown in, you can still make $ on markup, and it can be applied at 10 yards/hr, and you dont have to do a thing.
I easily spread 4-5 yards a hour. Ill pull off 120 yards over the weekend with a 3 man crew.
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Ratchetmaster: love the breakdown! But as you can see this is where we end up loosing jobs over a few bucks per yard...it breaks out to a difference of thousands.

grass guru: love the idea of a blower never used one but seen them used while commuting from site to site. Is that how many yards/hr they spread?

I am still running numbers, I am really doubting myself on this one and I really don't like it, I felt this was a shot in the dark before I even started and will end up spending a lot of time and energy trying to get it. I can get the full 80 yds of mulch delivered from a "friend of a friend" for $15ish per yard. So i'm thinking about $70-$80/yd. But still gotta think about it, usually in my area were at about $100-$125/yd so theres a little discount, but again I gotta watch the lowballers who probably will charge $50/yd. Thanks alot Prickmen
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A blower can lay down a massive amount per hour. Google and see if you can find a local company that does it, and find out their rates. I had a company that would spread color enhanced for $45/yard. It cost me $18/yard to buy it from my supplier. If I pay $10/hr labor, my total cost is $28/yard. I am losing $17/yard profit on color enhanced. If it takes them 2 hrs for 20 yards, or 3 of us a full 8 hour day, it becomes a matter of convenience. If you are in a rush, or dont have the personel on hand and need to screen and hire a bunch of people for one job, you will have more hours/advertising costs in seeking and hiring of numerous employees than you would in profit loss to subbing out.
Sectlandscaping, not everyone has the equiptment to lay that much mulch. Reading the OP, he stated he would have to hire a bunch of people, and obviously hasnt done a job this big, or he wouldnt be here asking opinions. Im assuming he is spreading it by hand, with wheel barrows off of a dumped pile.

I would definately call a blower company, and see what they would charge. *I wouldnt be surprised if they can get the mulch for much cheaper than you from a friends friend. It may also benefit you in landing the contract if you can put in that the mulch would be installed in a few hours vs a few days, and there will be no big piles of mulch using parking space.
Basically, whats your bottom dollar? If you can get mulch for $15/yd, , is $60to $70/yd enough for you to cover labor, gas, supplies, and overhead?
You have to bid it on what you need to make, not what you think other guys will charge. Take into account the going rate so you dont cut yourself short, but dont fret over it. If you really want it that bad and dont get it, there is always next year.
Good luck, keep us posted.
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He discussed using equipment earlier. Its cheaper to rent a bobcat for $200-$250 a day then to pay 10 guys.

My sub compact tractor only has 1/3 yard bucket and moves 20 yards in 3-5 hours depending on distance. I just bought a skid to double that. A bobcat from the rental yard will come with a 1 yard bucket. The same as what loads you up at the yard. When your close to the pile you can be loaded up in mins.

Based on your prices the blower guy will charge 27x80 thats $2160. You could rent 4 bobcats for under a grand and do it in day. Then he has to pay for mulch, the blower people, and wait for the money from the job.
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$750 to rent 3 bobcats, plus the fuel to get them, and run them, might cost a total of $900. The labor for 6 guys for 8 hours @ 10/hr is $480. Add to that 80 yards of mulch for $15/yd = $1,200. Delivery in my area is $45/10yds= $450. Your total cost is about $3,780, or about $47/yd. If a sub can blow it in for $35 to $45/yd (mulch included), who's losing money? Even if a blower charges $50/yd (everything included?), you are really only out about $250. Is there another job that you could land and make $250 that day? Only $30/hr needed.
The cost in the end may be about the same. I'm just saying it doest hurt to look at getting a price for subbing it to a blower company, just as you would to find what it costs to rent 2 or 3 bobcats, or spread by hand, or sub it out to one of those lowballers (ive done that before, just speeds up the process of putting them out of business). Looking at it from every angle, getting numerous bids yourself for the mulch, bobcats, utility tractors, etc , will help you maximize profitability, and productivity. However, maximum profitabilty isnt always the first goal on every job.
Maybe he can have it delivered for free, and get a break on 3 bobcat rentals for a day from the same place, and has nothing else lined up for work, maybe not. Asking for prices never hurts. Just my oppinion.
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As of now we have one bobcat, (S250) that is getting old but still works, so I will be using that plus renting another. But I love the blower idea just haven't been able to find a sub. I will keep looking, but 2 loaders and a bunch of wheelbarrows is my fall behind. Even if I don't make enough, i'm not going to loose money and plus I will get the contract for the season. So I'm not that worried just wanted to see if you guys offered a huge discount since there is 80 yards.

We will see, I handed the proposal in yesterday and hopefully will hear soon. Hopefully it's not a waste of time which is what I though when I first got the call but we will see.

Sectlandscaping have you heard about your proposal yet?
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