Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Business > Trials & Tribulations - The drama of running a business and of life.

Trials & Tribulations - The drama of running a business and of life. It's not as easy as it looks. Running a business is full of drama. Customers, employees, money, family, time. You name it, it's a problem. Share with us your drama and how you handled it.

Not really new, but back again!


Trials & Tribulations - The drama of running a business and of life.

It's not as easy as it looks. Running a business is full of drama. Customers, employees, money, family, time. You name it, it's a problem. Share with us your drama and how you handled it.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 02-13-2013, 05:26 PM
fieroboi's Avatar
fieroboi fieroboi is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Camrose, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 142
Rep Power: 6
fieroboi is on a distinguished road
Default Not really new, but back again!

Hey all,

I missed this site, it has been a wild ride since my last log in, ten months ago. I had to take a small break as things got very hectic on the homefront here and business was roaring ahead, whether I wanted it to or not. Great thing is that I've kept it all afloat and moving forward aside from all the setbacks thrown at me.

Just to catch you all up, we are back on track for a record year in 2013. Last year I finally broke the 6 figure mark business wise, thats one of the great parts, and expanded even more, slowly starting to get into some smaller landscaping jobs and concrete work. Company had four guys going for a portion of the summer.

Now some of the setbacks, not dwelling on them, but they kicked me hard and took the wind out of my sails for a bit. I had a wonderful young man working for me that was destined to eventually run the yard side of the business who sadly drown in a fishing accident in May. Took all my strength to just keep things going. Then the ongoing issue of employees, but I'm thinking it is an ongoing battle. Last but not least, ended up with a marriage breakup, divorce is going to happen in 6 months or so. Oddly losing my employee and friend in that accident was more difficult.

Now for the good stuff, I got a new employee that is an excellent worker, has an good sense of what I am saying when I explain things and is very excited about a career here. We are aiming for a 25% increase in income and about a 15% increase in clients. I bought another new trailer last year as well as updated most of the equipment. Aiming for a second crew for yards and one just for landscape and concrete work.

Hoping to get in as much camping as is possible this year, certainly could use the break now and again. LOL

Peace to all,

Lloyd Blue
Blue`s Yard FX
Camrose, AB
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #2  
Old 02-13-2013, 05:38 PM
LawnBoy0311 LawnBoy0311 is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: East Coast
Posts: 1,169
Rep Power: 0
LawnBoy0311 is on a distinguished road
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
Damn thats a crazy year!

Sorry to hear about your employee passing away and your marriage.

You sound like your in decent spirits going forward,congrats on the 100,000+ goal! Welcome back!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-14-2013, 11:15 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,430
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Lloyd so good to see you!

WOW that is a lot going on! I am very sorry about all that happening last year.

We have had some conversation in the past about trying to keep together a business and a marriage and how you only have so much in you to make them work.

Do you feel there was a correlation between business growth and an increase in marital issues? Do you have any advice for the newer guys on here when it comes to balance and how to try and maintain it?
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-14-2013, 05:14 PM
fieroboi's Avatar
fieroboi fieroboi is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Camrose, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 142
Rep Power: 6
fieroboi is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
Do you feel there was a correlation between business growth and an increase in marital issues? Do you have any advice for the newer guys on here when it comes to balance and how to try and maintain it?
Thanks Steve,

It's great to get back here.

It's interesting you asked that. I can't say that the increase of business contributed to any marriage issues. There was a huge correlation to losing my employee and the marriage issues. I got very depressed after he died, he was like a son to me, so the grieving was difficult and lonely as the support I expecting was not being offered or given. That created huge issues for us, which I will admit to part of the blame as I didn't communicate my feelings very well. It was the huge lack of communication on both parts that killed our relationship, something that looking back now, I saw slowly happening for the past couple years.

To give some background, this employee was my foreman. We had just sat down two weeks before the accident and worked out a two year business plan for growth and expecations for the company. With his death, it felt like the plan had died as well as my ambition, for a while. Now I can offer some advise with regards to this.

I can honestly say that I had to rebuild myself and the visiion I had for the company. It took many hours mowing grass with tears in my eyes, thinking about what to do next. I won't lie either, I thought about shutting it down and doing something different with my life. I came to the realization one day, that if my foreman saw me depressed and with less drive he would have given me a swift hard kick. From that day on, I continually reminded myself that the goals we set, were my goals for the company and that I needed to push hard to accomplish them.

I'll admit, losing him was one of the hardest things I've gone through (even worse than when my mom died, she was ill, making it easier to take) but at the same time, I found a strength within myself to strive even harder to achieve those goals. Pride in my work and given praise for super looking yards from clients is a huge motivator for me.

Now for the advise, it really is nothing special and I am sure we have all heard it before **-I went back to the basics, why did I start this business? Use your strengths, work with them, be proud of yourself and what you do. Those strengths are what will carry you through even the roughest times. If your really good at something and enjoy it, it is so much easier to continue, even in tough times. My hope is that someone reading this, understands, relates and can use this to achieve great things.


Lloyd
Blue's Yard FX
Camrose, AB

Last edited by fieroboi; 02-14-2013 at 05:17 PM. Reason: fix errors
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-15-2013, 01:27 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,430
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Quote:
It's interesting you asked that. I can't say that the increase of business contributed to any marriage issues. There was a huge correlation to losing my employee and the marriage issues. I got very depressed after he died, he was like a son to me, so the grieving was difficult and lonely as the support I expecting was not being offered or given. That created huge issues for us, which I will admit to part of the blame as I didn't communicate my feelings very well. It was the huge lack of communication on both parts that killed our relationship, something that looking back now, I saw slowly happening for the past couple years.
I am very sorry about all of this. It seems we as a society or even a culture just don't do to well when it comes to dealing with traumatic situations. We all can turn on the tv and watch the most craziest stuff, but when it happens to us personally, we find it is very difficult to work our way through it.

More often than not, we all seem to not know what to say or how to express what we feel so we just don't say anything. Possibly due to a fear of being judged, possibly because we don't feel comfortable letting out that level of emotion. And these lines of communication work both ways.

You can feel unsure of how to express yourself and then when you put out these feelers to see if it is ok to express yourself, you may be doing it with a person who is unsure of how to take all that in and they clam up. So then you can get two people, not sure of how to process things, how to help, or how to express. Maybe even scared of what may come out from it. Living on a superficial level is a lot safer than living with a deeper level of communication.

So then in the end, if we can't talk and the other person can't listen, what do we have? What do we do with that? Do we just package it up, store it, and move on for long enough that the edge of the emotions become duller and we forget?

There is a lot that can be worked out with talking. A little at a time.
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-17-2013, 06:47 PM
fieroboi's Avatar
fieroboi fieroboi is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Camrose, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 142
Rep Power: 6
fieroboi is on a distinguished road
Default

That is so very true Steve. Everyone deals with things at different paces, but in the end its communication that can really move us forward.

Lloyd
Blue's Yard FX
Camrose, AB
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-18-2013, 01:33 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,430
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Quote:
Now for the advise, it really is nothing special and I am sure we have all heard it before **-I went back to the basics, why did I start this business?

My hope is that someone reading this, understands, relates and can use this to achieve great things.
What is your view on why you did get it started and how are you harnessing that to push forwards?

I am sure many more members than you can imagine find themselves dealing with this very issue at times. Coming to a point where you need to pause, review what got you to where you are and where you were going, in order to help get things moving again.
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-18-2013, 04:17 PM
fieroboi's Avatar
fieroboi fieroboi is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Camrose, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 142
Rep Power: 6
fieroboi is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
What is your view on why you did get it started and how are you harnessing that to push forwards?

I am sure many more members than you can imagine find themselves dealing with this very issue at times. Coming to a point where you need to pause, review what got you to where you are and where you were going, in order to help get things moving again.
I started this business because of my love for yardwork and being proud of what I can do with a yard. It is something that I find great joy in. I have a sense of great pride when my yard looks amazing. So when I thought about the business, it was an obvious choice to do this for a living. If I could make people's yards look great and feel super about the work I did, then it was the right choice for me.

When my foreman died, that joy disappeared for a while and I had to remind myself of what spurred me to start the business. Once I did that, I noticed that the joy of the work started coming back.

My strength is, I really love to make a yard look its best, there is a huge sense of pride when I finish a property. I needed to use that to move me forward and to strive to maintain the same level of service that customers were used to. Once that got back on track the rest just kept falling into place. The days became joyful again and the work once again was fun and satisfying.

Everyone would react differently given the circumstances, but the lesson in my opinion, is to find what motivates you and use it


Lloyd
Blue's Yard FX
Camrose, AB
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-19-2013, 11:37 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,430
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

I am very happy you were able to get back to the core and build from there. I hope this year is a very good year for you.
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 02-19-2013, 01:41 PM
fieroboi's Avatar
fieroboi fieroboi is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Camrose, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 142
Rep Power: 6
fieroboi is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve View Post
I am very happy you were able to get back to the core and build from there. I hope this year is a very good year for you.
Thanks.

I'm really looking forward to this year. From how it has gone thus far, it should exceed my expectations.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Pay back clandscaping44 Starting a lawn care business. 22 08-11-2011 10:29 PM
I am Back lawnindustryconsultants.com Introduce Yourself 6 02-26-2010 10:58 AM
Back up again swstout General Talk 4 11-07-2009 10:18 AM
I'm Back TigerTime General Talk 2 11-27-2007 12:45 PM
Can't back up Gopher Software Support Archived Question & Answers - Read Only 1 08-05-2006 12:34 AM

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Real Estate??
tbtigers03
Yesterday 06:43 PM
Today 05:01 PM
by stevef1201
5 158
John Deere z235 Deck
WesleySnips
09-29-2014 06:02 PM
Today 04:38 PM
by WesleySnips
5 222
Sprinkler head guards...
Sprinkler Buddy
09-27-2014 04:55 AM
Today 02:50 PM
by Sprinkler Buddy
6 428
Look out Bob Villa -...
Mr Dave
Yesterday 10:06 AM
Today 02:19 PM
by Steve
5 194
Question?what should I...
dalvan0
09-24-2014 11:10 PM
Today 01:39 PM
by Steve
17 811
Whe does Mowing season...
jack2048
Yesterday 07:05 AM
Today 01:38 PM
by jack2048
4 192
Kohler command carb...
ExtremeLawncareServices
09-21-2014 03:09 PM
Today 01:30 PM
by Steve
26 1,158
Help a brother...
tbtigers03
09-28-2014 11:41 AM
Today 01:26 PM
by Steve
7 382
Hello from Kentucky
TRV
Yesterday 05:42 PM
Today 01:20 PM
by Steve
2 114
Give Me Your Problems
ellakit
Yesterday 04:10 PM
Yesterday 04:10 PM
by ellakit
0 17
Say Hello !!!
Steve
03-19-2007 11:18 AM
Yesterday 03:53 PM
by ellakit
1,188 336,272
Falling into business
stellarmowing
09-28-2014 04:35 PM
Yesterday 02:17 PM
by Steve
4 343
hey
sizemorelawncare
09-28-2014 08:12 PM
09-29-2014 03:10 PM
by Steve
2 270
Update on LawnsAway and...
Ian Lovejoy
09-28-2014 10:24 AM
09-29-2014 03:09 PM
by Steve
2 326
Need to figure out how...
tjslawnde
09-28-2014 10:31 AM
09-29-2014 03:05 PM
by Steve
4 336
Aerocore Deck?
wdrdoctor
09-26-2014 06:21 PM
09-29-2014 02:36 PM
by Steve
3 465
Hello from CNY
arazucontracting
09-22-2014 06:07 PM
09-29-2014 02:33 PM
by Steve
3 715
How to price lawn mowing.
jack2048
09-24-2014 04:18 PM
09-29-2014 02:27 PM
by Steve
4 576
Pricing ????
6295danny
01-14-2013 07:54 PM
09-29-2014 02:22 PM
by Steve
35 6,587
30 Inch Push Mowers Pros...
Billy Goat
06-27-2013 08:07 PM
09-27-2014 04:11 PM
by SGL1
30 7,114
Replacing a Shindi T-27
Dan Tanner
09-13-2014 12:59 PM
09-26-2014 04:16 PM
by stevef1201
5 1,102
Looking for feed back on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
09-17-2014 08:38 AM
09-25-2014 09:18 AM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
10 1,129
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
03-22-2014 09:12 AM
09-25-2014 08:01 AM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
124 9,325
Trying something new,...
ExtremeLawncareServices
09-21-2014 09:07 PM
09-23-2014 11:13 AM
by Steve
4 812
This sucks...
Matther777
09-18-2014 04:56 PM
09-22-2014 08:02 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
11 1,187
Not sure, but anyone do...
SnowRemoval2k14
09-22-2014 12:10 AM
09-22-2014 04:49 PM
by Steve
1 758
Tribulations of working...
stevef1201
09-13-2014 08:37 AM
09-22-2014 04:45 PM
by Steve
9 1,084
Mulching beds
Bradcook21
09-21-2014 07:43 AM
09-22-2014 04:43 PM
by Steve
3 826
Scag turf tiger hydrolic...
ExtremeLawncareServices
09-04-2014 10:55 PM
09-22-2014 04:35 PM
by Steve
12 1,456
2014 Gie-expo
ExtremeLawncareServices
08-19-2014 11:22 PM
09-21-2014 09:23 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
3 1,486
Mowing 7 acres
avetslawncare
08-31-2014 04:24 PM
09-19-2014 03:29 PM
by acrajchel
6 1,704
snowplowing
jshak40
09-01-2014 07:20 AM
09-19-2014 11:49 AM
by Steve
23 2,136
Lowballers scrubs &...
Darksteel
01-13-2014 07:35 AM
09-18-2014 06:32 PM
by Northwoods Outdoors
58 7,530
Hello from upstate NY!
A&MLawn&Snow
09-18-2014 11:19 AM
09-18-2014 04:10 PM
by Sprinkler Buddy
2 923
Price to apply fertilizer
SS.Lawncare
09-15-2014 11:10 AM
09-18-2014 01:16 PM
by Steve
9 1,107
Trailer tires
J.A.S.LawnService
09-01-2014 10:17 AM
09-17-2014 09:57 PM
by curts lawn care
4 1,538
new to the forum
SGlawncare
09-16-2014 11:20 PM
09-17-2014 08:29 PM
by curts lawn care
3 935
Help With Snow Blowing...
Robertf31
09-13-2014 10:55 PM
09-17-2014 12:34 PM
by Steve
11 1,300
Non-Stop Summer?
SouthallMowing
09-14-2014 10:51 PM
09-17-2014 10:48 AM
by stevef1201
6 1,055
Poll - net income
Dan5082
11-15-2010 08:08 PM
09-16-2014 04:44 PM
by jrs.landscaping
12 3,806
Getting lowballed!
PineHillLawn
06-27-2012 07:23 AM
09-16-2014 01:25 PM
by jrs.landscaping
24 5,547
Compare this summer to...
Steve
09-03-2014 12:52 PM
09-16-2014 11:20 AM
by Hanks Lawn Care Services
15 1,728
thinking about throwing...
veteranslawncaresystems
09-09-2014 10:31 PM
09-15-2014 03:41 PM
by Steve
12 1,453
Hello
Robertf31
09-12-2014 10:34 PM
09-15-2014 03:17 PM
by Steve
2 947
Newbie......Again
Jibber
09-13-2014 12:17 PM
09-15-2014 02:54 PM
by Sprinkler Buddy
2 1,075
need help with starter...
GoGreenerKS
09-12-2014 04:23 PM
09-15-2014 02:25 PM
by Steve
3 996
Brake job!
kslawn
08-30-2014 07:49 AM
09-15-2014 02:16 PM
by Steve
12 1,806
Hello
jawnebgoode
08-28-2014 08:37 PM
09-15-2014 02:15 PM
by Steve
3 1,536
Employee uniforms
Gerardo_Landscape
01-21-2014 11:11 PM
09-15-2014 02:12 PM
by Steve
5 1,597
Greetings from the north
Northwoods Outdoors
09-13-2014 08:55 AM
09-15-2014 02:07 PM
by Steve
1 943
» Popular Tags
2wd 4x4 aerocore apartment complex article marketing auger bid billy goat brushcutter blades care charge christmas collections collections subcontractor equipment rental exmark ferris foreman four wheel drive gopherhaul grass gravely growing a lawn care business health hills honda how much to charge husqvarna installation john deere quik trac landscape services lawn lawn care lawn care business lawn care business book lawn care business seo lawn care business show lawn care business website lawn care business website seo lawn care website lesco marketing mechanic monthly mr dave mulch mulch price new buisness new business new mower podcast pto running a business scag schedule scripts search engine optimization seo small engine repair starting a business starting a lawn care business steve stihl theft toro toro grand stand trailer trimmer rack walk behind walker
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:03 PM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:03 PM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy