Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Lawn Care, Landscaping, and Property Management Forums > Truck, Trailer, and Outdoor Power Equipment Discussion, Repairs.

Truck, Trailer, and Outdoor Power Equipment Discussion, Repairs. Questions on your truck, trailer, commercial lawn mowers, lawn mower, mower parts, lawn tractors, engines, edgers, trimmers, pole saws, aerators, hydro seeders, snow plows, chain saws, stump grinders??

Anyone running a Scag 48" tigercat?


Truck, Trailer, and Outdoor Power Equipment Discussion, Repairs.

Questions on your truck, trailer, commercial lawn mowers, lawn mower, mower parts, lawn tractors, engines, edgers, trimmers, pole saws, aerators, hydro seeders, snow plows, chain saws, stump grinders??
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 02-13-2013, 01:09 PM
ericj88 ericj88 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 6
Rep Power: 2
ericj88 is on a distinguished road
Default Anyone running a Scag 48" tigercat?

I am considering buying a new 48 scag tigercat mower. This will be my first mower for business. I hear that scag makes a great machine, which is why I am considering them over the bobcat. My main concern with this particular mower is that it has a 19hp KAI Kawasaki engine. I have searched the forum for reviews about this small motor, and I didnt find much at all.
Is anyone here running this machine with this motor? If so, what is your experience with it?
I am concerned with it possibly being under powered, short engine life (hours), and or just constant repairs. I hope it is reliable, as the price is good for this mower.
Thanks
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #2  
Old 02-13-2013, 02:10 PM
wandfsmall wandfsmall is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 925
Rep Power: 5
wandfsmall is on a distinguished road
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
Quote:
Originally Posted by ericj88 View Post
I am considering buying a new 48 scag tigercat mower. This will be my first mower for business. I hear that scag makes a great machine, which is why I am considering them over the bobcat. My main concern with this particular mower is that it has a 19hp KAI Kawasaki engine. I have searched the forum for reviews about this small motor, and I didnt find much at all.
Is anyone here running this machine with this motor? If so, what is your experience with it?
I am concerned with it possibly being under powered, short engine life (hours), and or just constant repairs. I hope it is reliable, as the price is good for this mower.
Thanks
I did not think that Kawasaki was using KAI anymore I would think your looking at really old stock. I would need to know if it is FH, FJ, or something else to tell you about the quality of the engine and what it was designed to do. As to quality and life of the mower however I can assure you that bobcat will hold its own, and in fact will have a longer warranty then the scag. Let me know what you find out as to the age of the unit as Scag has had a few bad years just like the others, a 48" mower sitting around that long would likely be one of them.
__________________
I am the owner of www.AllOutdoorParts.com an online mower parts distributor. I am also a Briggs Master Service Technician and Expert Certified Mechanic for Kohler. If my posts helps you please like my facebook page at www.facebook.com/alloutdoorparts

Last edited by wandfsmall; 02-13-2013 at 02:13 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-13-2013, 07:36 PM
ericj88 ericj88 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 6
Rep Power: 2
ericj88 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by wandfsmall View Post
I did not think that Kawasaki was using KAI anymore I would think your looking at really old stock. I would need to know if it is FH, FJ, or something else to tell you about the quality of the engine and what it was designed to do. As to quality and life of the mower however I can assure you that bobcat will hold its own, and in fact will have a longer warranty then the scag. Let me know what you find out as to the age of the unit as Scag has had a few bad years just like the others, a 48" mower sitting around that long would likely be one of them.
The dealer said it was about two years old, and it was the last scag they had left since they quit selling the brand. Im not sure which motor it is though. Which one (FH or FJ) is the one with a bad reputation? What were the issues with it?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-13-2013, 08:02 PM
dpld dpld is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: nj
Posts: 885
Rep Power: 0
dpld is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ericj88 View Post
The dealer said it was about two years old, and it was the last scag they had left since they quit selling the brand. Im not sure which motor it is though. Which one (FH or FJ) is the one with a bad reputation? What were the issues with it?

i would take wandfsmall's advice because he knows his stuff about these things and probably more so then most of us.

considering how many mowers get bought every year by landscapers i would be a little suspect about any new machine that has been sitting in a dealer for 2 years.
there has to be something at odds with it for it to have been passed by for 2 years.
i am sure the guy may give you a good deal price wise but that will go right out the door if it is a dud with a inferior motor.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-13-2013, 08:22 PM
ericj88 ericj88 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 6
Rep Power: 2
ericj88 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by dpld View Post
i would take wandfsmall's advice because he knows his stuff about these things and probably more so then most of us.

considering how many mowers get bought every year by landscapers i would be a little suspect about any new machine that has been sitting in a dealer for 2 years.
there has to be something at odds with it for it to have been passed by for 2 years.
i am sure the guy may give you a good deal price wise but that will go right out the door if it is a dud with a inferior motor.
I am considering passing it up, as I have been trying to research the 19hp kai. Seems it is a FH580v at 585cc. I have read the older kawasaki (non kai
fh601v) 19hp is actually 675cc and is thought to be a better motor.

$6500.00 for a scag 48" is a good price with no hours on it. I am leary though as their must be a reason its still for sale. I found a new 52" tigercat for $8200.00, which is comparable to the bobcat procat's I have looked at. I like both of them, and am still undecided.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-14-2013, 08:18 AM
phouse65 phouse65 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Canton, OHIO
Posts: 35
Rep Power: 4
phouse65 is on a distinguished road
Default Tiger Cub

I have a 48 Tiger Cub (2009 they were Cub not Cat), it is the best piece of equipment. Never had a problem and runs awesome. I have the 26HP Briggs and Stratton in mine. I paid $6,200 bran d new. They had got all the 2010 models in and sold off the 2009 for cheap. If you want more HP or a different engine, look around and haggle with these dealers. Either way, just take care of the mower by doing the upkeep that it requires (grease spindles a couple times a week, change oil) and you will love it.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-14-2013, 08:41 AM
Mowin4Dollas's Avatar
Mowin4Dollas Mowin4Dollas is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: South East Tennessee
Age: 18
Posts: 62
Rep Power: 2
Mowin4Dollas is on a distinguished road
Default

If your a bigger guy, this mower isn't very roomy. I felt like I was sitting in a Pre school chair. I'm 6'2 and about 235.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-14-2013, 09:11 AM
wandfsmall wandfsmall is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 925
Rep Power: 5
wandfsmall is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ericj88 View Post
I am considering passing it up, as I have been trying to research the 19hp kai. Seems it is a FH580v at 585cc. I have read the older kawasaki (non kai
fh601v) 19hp is actually 675cc and is thought to be a better motor.

$6500.00 for a scag 48" is a good price with no hours on it. I am leary though as their must be a reason its still for sale. I found a new 52" tigercat for $8200.00, which is comparable to the bobcat procat's I have looked at. I like both of them, and am still undecided.
Here are some facts about mowers that most people on this site do not seem to understand.

1)Every mower has a weak area and every mower has a strong area

2)Every Mower manufacture has bad models(and not every tiger cub is not the same model they like most other companies use model numbers) Some of the better dealers can see some of this in advance and avoid them if they can.

3)For the most part you can not tell what mower cut the grass as any of the better quality commercial mowers do about the same job.

4)The mechanic that setup the mower is more important to the life and cut quality then the brand on the mower unless you are willing and able to redo the job when you buy it.
__________________
I am the owner of www.AllOutdoorParts.com an online mower parts distributor. I am also a Briggs Master Service Technician and Expert Certified Mechanic for Kohler. If my posts helps you please like my facebook page at www.facebook.com/alloutdoorparts
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 02-14-2013, 09:21 AM
wandfsmall wandfsmall is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 925
Rep Power: 5
wandfsmall is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ericj88 View Post
I am considering passing it up, as I have been trying to research the 19hp kai. Seems it is a FH580v at 585cc. I have read the older kawasaki (non kai
fh601v) 19hp is actually 675cc and is thought to be a better motor.

$6500.00 for a scag 48" is a good price with no hours on it. I am leary though as their must be a reason its still for sale. I found a new 52" tigercat for $8200.00, which is comparable to the bobcat procat's I have looked at. I like both of them, and am still undecided.
The best advice I can give you is pick a mower you like from a dealer that will likely be around in a few years to help you if you need it and sell you parts at a decent price. Forget about what you read online, or see on other guys trailers the biggest dealer in a lot of cases will not be the best dealer for service and price. And I have no clue as the the quality of the mechanic setting up the mowers you are looking at.
__________________
I am the owner of www.AllOutdoorParts.com an online mower parts distributor. I am also a Briggs Master Service Technician and Expert Certified Mechanic for Kohler. If my posts helps you please like my facebook page at www.facebook.com/alloutdoorparts

Last edited by wandfsmall; 02-14-2013 at 09:24 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 02-15-2013, 04:40 PM
Matther777's Avatar
Matther777 Matther777 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Colorado
Posts: 174
Rep Power: 3
Matther777 is on a distinguished road
Default

I read somewhere in Consumer Reports that a type of Kawasaki Motors went on recall do to some electrical issue and catching fire. Now I am not saying they make a horrible product. I am just letting you know find out if that mower doesnt have the bad engine before you purchase it.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
52" scag hydro question. christopher_wood12 Truck, Trailer, and Outdoor Power Equipment Discussion, Repairs. 2 07-19-2012 08:42 AM
Scag Cheetah 60" Shark1611 Truck, Trailer, and Outdoor Power Equipment Discussion, Repairs. 5 06-28-2012 06:51 AM
"Part Timers", "Low Ballers" & Self Employed doug1980 General Talk 22 07-24-2011 05:32 PM
Scag 48" Tiger Cub aggielandscaper Truck, Trailer, and Outdoor Power Equipment Discussion, Repairs. 4 11-22-2009 09:51 PM

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Kohler command carb...
ExtremeLawncareServices
Yesterday 03:09 PM
Today 04:15 AM
by stevef1201
3 105
Not sure, but anyone do...
SnowRemoval2k14
Today 12:10 AM
Today 12:10 AM
by SnowRemoval2k14
0 39
2014 Gie-expo
ExtremeLawncareServices
08-19-2014 11:22 PM
Yesterday 09:23 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
3 878
Trying something new,...
ExtremeLawncareServices
Yesterday 09:07 PM
Yesterday 09:07 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
0 58
Tribulations of working...
stevef1201
09-13-2014 08:37 AM
Yesterday 10:10 AM
by stevef1201
8 553
Mulching beds
Bradcook21
Yesterday 07:43 AM
Yesterday 10:03 AM
by stevef1201
2 130
This sucks...
Matther777
09-18-2014 04:56 PM
09-20-2014 07:19 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
9 450
30 Inch Push Mowers Pros...
Billy Goat
06-27-2013 08:07 PM
09-20-2014 06:40 PM
by SGL1
22 6,280
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
03-22-2014 09:12 AM
09-20-2014 05:39 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
120 8,352
Replacing a Shindi T-27
Dan Tanner
09-13-2014 12:59 PM
09-20-2014 03:16 PM
by kslawn
2 566
Scag turf tiger hydrolic...
ExtremeLawncareServices
09-04-2014 10:55 PM
09-19-2014 05:59 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
11 921
Mowing 7 acres
avetslawncare
08-31-2014 04:24 PM
09-19-2014 03:29 PM
by acrajchel
6 1,088
snowplowing
jshak40
09-01-2014 07:20 AM
09-19-2014 11:49 AM
by Steve
23 1,483
Looking for feed back on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
09-17-2014 08:38 AM
09-19-2014 08:17 AM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
9 486
Lowballers scrubs &...
Darksteel
01-13-2014 07:35 AM
09-18-2014 06:32 PM
by Northwoods Outdoors
58 6,884
Hello from upstate NY!
A&MLawn&Snow
09-18-2014 11:19 AM
09-18-2014 04:10 PM
by Sprinkler Buddy
2 340
Price to apply fertilizer
SS.Lawncare
09-15-2014 11:10 AM
09-18-2014 01:16 PM
by Steve
9 601
Trailer tires
J.A.S.LawnService
09-01-2014 10:17 AM
09-17-2014 09:57 PM
by curts lawn care
4 1,006
new to the forum
SGlawncare
09-16-2014 11:20 PM
09-17-2014 08:29 PM
by curts lawn care
3 421
Help With Snow Blowing...
Robertf31
09-13-2014 10:55 PM
09-17-2014 12:34 PM
by Steve
11 777
Non-Stop Summer?
SouthallMowing
09-14-2014 10:51 PM
09-17-2014 10:48 AM
by stevef1201
6 563
Poll - net income
Dan5082
11-15-2010 08:08 PM
09-16-2014 04:44 PM
by jrs.landscaping
12 3,299
Getting lowballed!
PineHillLawn
06-27-2012 07:23 AM
09-16-2014 01:25 PM
by jrs.landscaping
24 4,994
Compare this summer to...
Steve
09-03-2014 12:52 PM
09-16-2014 11:20 AM
by Hanks Lawn Care Services
15 1,209
thinking about throwing...
veteranslawncaresystems
09-09-2014 10:31 PM
09-15-2014 03:41 PM
by Steve
12 892
Hello
Robertf31
09-12-2014 10:34 PM
09-15-2014 03:17 PM
by Steve
2 476
Newbie......Again
Jibber
09-13-2014 12:17 PM
09-15-2014 02:54 PM
by Sprinkler Buddy
2 576
need help with starter...
GoGreenerKS
09-12-2014 04:23 PM
09-15-2014 02:25 PM
by Steve
3 499
Brake job!
kslawn
08-30-2014 07:49 AM
09-15-2014 02:16 PM
by Steve
12 1,195
Hello
jawnebgoode
08-28-2014 08:37 PM
09-15-2014 02:15 PM
by Steve
3 967
Employee uniforms
Gerardo_Landscape
01-21-2014 11:11 PM
09-15-2014 02:12 PM
by Steve
5 1,100
Greetings from the north
Northwoods Outdoors
09-13-2014 08:55 AM
09-15-2014 02:07 PM
by Steve
1 463
darleneh
darleneh
09-15-2014 12:33 PM
09-15-2014 02:07 PM
by Sprinkler Buddy
1 456
My 1st bid
WesleySnips
06-11-2014 03:13 PM
09-15-2014 02:05 PM
by Steve
29 1,881
New Aerator
Chaz
09-09-2014 11:43 PM
09-15-2014 01:50 PM
by Steve
9 722
Yearly contract Pricing
jrob0691
08-21-2014 08:57 AM
09-15-2014 01:23 PM
by stevef1201
8 1,364
getting ready to start
calebmoss
05-23-2011 09:35 PM
09-11-2014 12:21 PM
by Steve
34 11,368
Stihl pull cord replace
SGL1
09-03-2014 09:22 PM
09-10-2014 12:25 PM
by Steve
9 893
Softball field
kslawn
08-15-2014 09:28 AM
09-10-2014 12:16 PM
by Steve
18 1,636
Lawn Route Templates
Landscaper1165
08-30-2014 01:52 PM
09-09-2014 08:05 PM
by Landscaper1165
4 1,120
New truck and trailer...
Johnny Rocket
05-14-2012 03:41 PM
09-09-2014 07:23 PM
by Matther777
18 6,707
What gets you bad press?
Steve
09-09-2014 11:48 AM
09-09-2014 07:21 PM
by Matther777
2 589
Signs on your snow plow?
Steve
01-15-2007 01:07 AM
09-09-2014 11:42 AM
by Steve
19 6,337
Exmark Lazer Z S-Series...
BLC7
08-22-2014 10:18 AM
09-08-2014 08:08 PM
by avetslawncare
12 1,402
New to the business
flamingyouth87
09-05-2014 11:52 AM
09-08-2014 11:55 AM
by Steve
3 804
Hello from Ohio
kurtwin
08-28-2014 05:06 PM
09-08-2014 11:51 AM
by Steve
7 1,088
Facebook
element009
03-23-2011 08:36 AM
09-07-2014 07:35 AM
by avetslawncare
24 7,876
Help pricing cut down 7...
Bradcook21
08-26-2014 11:17 PM
09-06-2014 02:09 PM
by Bradcook21
8 1,183
billing matters
sbuchanan8154
09-05-2014 09:56 AM
09-05-2014 03:00 PM
by Steve
3 783
Thoughts
googus
09-05-2014 07:28 AM
09-05-2014 02:23 PM
by Steve
2 722
» Popular Tags
4wd apartment complex auger blades charge christmas lighting collections credit card processing customers estimate exmark ferris first truck foreman fundraiser georgia gopherhaul grass gravely growing a lawn care business holiday lighting how much to charge how to bid husqvarna introduction john deere quik trac kansas city kawasaki labor cost landscape services lawn lawn care business podcast lawn care business seo lawn care business show lawn care business website lawn care business website seo lawn care website lawn care website seo leaf cleanup leaf removal lighting marketing mulch estimate new and restored landscapes new buisness podcast property management company pto redmax reo rotating savannah scag scripts season seo small engine repair sprayer starting a business start up lawn care business stihl theft tips top dresser toro toro grand stand trailer trimmer rack turfgrass consulting walker
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:58 AM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:58 AM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy