Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Just starting your lawn care or landscaping business? > Introduce Yourself

Introduce Yourself Welcome all new forum members. Please introduce yourself and tell us about you. Tell us about your company. How did you get started? How long have you been in business? What do you do for fun? Don't be shy, say hello! It's fun and educational to interact on the forum!

Help from EXPERIENCED PROS...


Introduce Yourself

Welcome all new forum members. Please introduce yourself and tell us about you. Tell us about your company. How did you get started? How long have you been in business? What do you do for fun? Don't be shy, say hello! It's fun and educational to interact on the forum!
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #11  
Old 01-30-2013, 02:13 PM
CHEESE2009's Avatar
CHEESE2009 CHEESE2009 is offline
Dr. Scott - Ruler of the Underworld
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Switzerland, Grindelwald
Age: 73
Posts: 4,475
Rep Power: 10
CHEESE2009 is on a distinguished road
Default

With the right amount of pacing in this field, you shouldn't need a loan.

I understand that a vehicle is a pretty big necessity and it's easy to get ahead of ourselves, but you're better off asking family to help you with the repair bill versus the banks.

If your family is unwilling, you're better off purchasing a working vehicle by working for someone else longer to make money, before going into business for yourself. You will have a greater advantage than starting near bankrupt.

As for making 10K per your first season, congrats, this is normal for those on the right track; however, $10K turns into something like $8K after taxes, and then that can turn into $4-6K with operation costs alone.

From what I'm assuming, your business is safe, but there isn't a lot of money going into your pocket, and you don't have the ability to afford new purchases yet. There's no need to rush for you.

If you're really hurting to get a vehicle so that you can supply your current clients, any vehicle will do so long as it can last you at least a year.

Pick up a junker for $1k of kijiji or craigslist maybe?
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #12  
Old 01-31-2013, 07:49 AM
affordablelawnmgmt affordablelawnmgmt is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 12
Rep Power: 3
affordablelawnmgmt is on a distinguished road
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
I have a yukon that has a new transmission and is in very good shape. It needs a motor which my dad has already found, it costs between 650-1000, it is a 350 vortec which me and my dad will install ourselves. On the trailer, it basically has the frame and floor on it. I have been looking at designs online we have access to a welder and metal shaping/cutting tools so I am going to create a design that will allow for weed eater racks,water cooler, storage for gas tanks, etc..With marketing tools used on the trailer as we customize it. I would like to create something that no one in my area has that will allow me to be unique. Any ideas would be appreciated. This trailer was basically free to me so I can do whatever I want with it.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 01-31-2013, 07:51 AM
affordablelawnmgmt affordablelawnmgmt is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 12
Rep Power: 3
affordablelawnmgmt is on a distinguished road
Default

I will post pictures of truck and trailer as we get started on both projects to get input from you guys. My goal is to have them complete by the end of February because March starts the beginning of my season.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 01-31-2013, 08:02 AM
affordablelawnmgmt affordablelawnmgmt is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 12
Rep Power: 3
affordablelawnmgmt is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CHEESE2009 View Post
With the right amount of pacing in this field, you shouldn't need a loan.

I understand that a vehicle is a pretty big necessity and it's easy to get ahead of ourselves, but you're better off asking family to help you with the repair bill versus the banks.

If your family is unwilling, you're better off purchasing a working vehicle by working for someone else longer to make money, before going into business for yourself. You will have a greater advantage than starting near bankrupt.

As for making 10K per your first season, congrats, this is normal for those on the right track; however, $10K turns into something like $8K after taxes, and then that can turn into $4-6K with operation costs alone.

From what I'm assuming, your business is safe, but there isn't a lot of money going into your pocket, and you don't have the ability to afford new purchases yet. There's no need to rush for you.

If you're really hurting to get a vehicle so that you can supply your current clients, any vehicle will do so long as it can last you at least a year.

Pick up a junker for $1k of kijiji or craigslist maybe?


Yeah I am leaning towards doing what I can without the loan. I have access to my uncles company truck/trailer so I am going to wait until money starts rolling in before I complete my truck/trailer. I don't wanna go into debt this early the more I think about. My operation costs consist of almost nothing but gas because my boss takes care of maintenance because I work with him also. So everything I make is into my pocket. I am just trying to get my own stuff running because I like being my own boss lol I plan on doubling if not tripling my accounts this summer so I need to be able to meet demand so I am getting anxious to start. Thanks for the feedback
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 01-31-2013, 12:43 PM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is online now
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,289
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

I am glad to hear it! Keep us posted on how everything goes with all this.
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 02-01-2013, 04:03 PM
Bob E Bob E is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Central New Jersey
Posts: 16
Rep Power: 5
Bob E is on a distinguished road
Default

Good to hear you are growing. Don't lose track of marketing your business. We all get tied up in the equipment & stuff, and forget that marketing is JOB #1.

If you can pick up 10-15 new customers, those deposits will help you with your repairs (I always get a 1 month deposit at contract). Then, figure out how many more customers it takes to hire someone to take your spot on the crew. I'm at a place now that if I continue working on the crew, I lose focus of my business and I lose sales & control.

You mentioned you like to increase efficiency, but don't do it just so you can lower your pricing. That is well earned profit. It's like the guy who buys a $12,000 mower and cuts his mowing time by half, and then drops his mowing price because it takes less time. That defeats the reason to spend capital to increase your efficiency.

Good luck!
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 02-03-2013, 06:45 AM
kslawn kslawn is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Up,Michigan
Posts: 420
Rep Power: 2
kslawn is on a distinguished road
Default

you may also inquire about a line of credit with your bank for a few thousand,that way you can use the money as you need it and only pay on what you use,same as a credit card, but cheaper interest rates for sure...
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 02-05-2013, 07:52 AM
affordablelawnmgmt affordablelawnmgmt is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 12
Rep Power: 3
affordablelawnmgmt is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob E View Post
Good to hear you are growing. Don't lose track of marketing your business. We all get tied up in the equipment & stuff, and forget that marketing is JOB #1.

If you can pick up 10-15 new customers, those deposits will help you with your repairs (I always get a 1 month deposit at contract). Then, figure out how many more customers it takes to hire someone to take your spot on the crew. I'm at a place now that if I continue working on the crew, I lose focus of my business and I lose sales & control.

You mentioned you like to increase efficiency, but don't do it just so you can lower your pricing. That is well earned profit. It's like the guy who buys a $12,000 mower and cuts his mowing time by half, and then drops his mowing price because it takes less time. That defeats the reason to spend capital to increase your efficiency.

Good luck!

Thanks for the insight. I had to step back and take in to account what you said, because it is 100% true. Strategic marketing was how I developed this business in the first place. I have began to devote more of my time to working on my marketing plan for 2013, and put the equipment on the back burner for a couple of weeks. I am preparing my 2013 flyer for new customers and newsletter for my current customer describing the new features that I will be offering this season. Any ideas you have for marketing strategy would be appreciated. I will be mainly using flyers as it has worked very well for me in the past. I am mapping out major subdivisions, rental properties, real estate agents, and other places that I believe will me good targets. I have always kept my customers once I get them I just have to get my foot in the door with their being so many people in the business today. I treat all my customers with the utmost respect and they really appreciate someone doing good business.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 02-05-2013, 08:51 AM
bruces bruces is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 828
Rep Power: 0
bruces is on a distinguished road
Default

in an earlier post you mention your costs are only your gas because your boss is supplying the equipment ,I just wanted to say that because your getting equipment free now,doesnt mean it will always be that way ,so for pricing work,be sure to include the costs associated with the purchase and upkeep of equipment .And if I was your boss ,even if it wasent mentioned in our deal ,I would really appreciate a few bucks now and then for the use of my equipment .
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 02-06-2013, 08:17 AM
Bob E Bob E is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Central New Jersey
Posts: 16
Rep Power: 5
Bob E is on a distinguished road
Default

One of the most successful smaller ad campaigns we did was to go to a golf course community (where they build a subdivision around a golf course). The properties are small (5,000 SF). You could do it on any subdivision where the properties are relatively the same size throughout.

What we did was we made a 8.5 x 5.5"post card with an annual package price for the season and sold it as a monthly payment. We took an average price for mowing X 28 wks, added in spring & fall cleanups, and a fertilizer program, and priced it at $99.00/mo for 10 months. We ended up with 15% of the community the first season.

Price it as if you are going to get 10 or more. Pass on SOME of the savings for less travel time. We averaged 7 properties per hour with 3 men (1-48", 1-36", and 1 -trim/blow).

I think with the pricing right on the postcard, there was no mystery for them. Either they wanted it or not. My mistake is that I didn't repeat it. I should have re-did it 2 more times 2-3 weeks apart.

Another tip: Know your overhead. Price out everything you will spend and divide it over your season. We have 35 or so weeks here. I cut only 4 days/ week. I break my overhead down to the hour so I know what it costs us.
(ie: $35,000 per year/ 35 weeks = $1,000 per week/ 4 days = $250 per day/8.5 hrs per day = $29.64/ hr for overhead) Now add your labor & taxes and you know your cost per hour and what you need to charge. Too many guys don't know their real costs. Make sure you bank $$ for winter bills. Sorry for long post.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
HELP experienced advice needed please! rainy days! baileysgreenthumb Trials & Tribulations - The drama of running a business and of life. 7 06-06-2012 12:31 AM
Hey Guys need some opinions of other pros on this one... bradsnipes Community Assistance 7 10-23-2011 02:50 PM
How do the pros do it? ttw0513 Starting a lawn care business. 8 06-15-2010 04:46 PM
A few Questions for the experienced Adubeasy Starting a lawn care business. 4 11-19-2009 05:50 PM
A question for more experienced lawn services. Clean Lawn Introduce Yourself 1 07-19-2007 07:09 PM

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
How do I approach...
Bradcook21
08-21-2014 01:48 AM
Yesterday 06:52 PM
by jrs.landscaping
9 182
Grass hopper mower
ExtremeLawncareServices
12-05-2013 08:51 AM
Yesterday 01:26 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
25 3,564
Need help pricing basic...
Bradcook21
Yesterday 01:21 AM
Yesterday 01:05 PM
by Steve
2 74
Yearly contract Pricing
jrob0691
08-21-2014 08:57 AM
Yesterday 01:01 PM
by Steve
6 134
yearly contract help...
jrob0691
08-21-2014 04:09 PM
Yesterday 12:48 PM
by Steve
1 44
Exmark Lazer Z S-Series...
BLC7
Yesterday 10:18 AM
Yesterday 10:18 AM
by BLC7
0 47
Pampas bushes
Bradcook21
Yesterday 01:30 AM
Yesterday 07:17 AM
by grassdoctore
1 45
2014 Gie-expo
ExtremeLawncareServices
08-19-2014 11:22 PM
08-21-2014 08:50 PM
by phlawncare
2 86
Fuel Can Spouts
Shark1611
08-16-2014 09:09 AM
08-21-2014 08:23 PM
by SGL1
11 283
Have you ever had to...
SouthernRootsLawnCare
07-26-2014 02:41 PM
08-21-2014 05:03 PM
by stevef1201
6 575
Softball field
kslawn
08-15-2014 09:28 AM
08-21-2014 01:43 PM
by Steve
9 275
Hello
M2Dave
08-21-2014 12:32 AM
08-21-2014 01:38 PM
by Steve
1 49
New Landscaping Business
rekon32
08-16-2014 02:26 PM
08-21-2014 12:33 PM
by SouthallMowing
8 330
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
03-22-2014 09:12 AM
08-20-2014 04:09 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
100 6,029
Downed Tree Chop Bid
WesleySnips
08-16-2014 03:47 PM
08-20-2014 01:44 PM
by SGL1
10 328
60 inch honda/bunton...
pblawncare
08-17-2014 11:30 AM
08-18-2014 03:19 PM
by Steve
2 111
Replacement Parts -...
nicholas-KC
08-16-2014 08:40 AM
08-18-2014 03:16 PM
by Steve
4 182
Preparing the soil
Billy Goat
08-16-2014 06:18 PM
08-18-2014 03:01 PM
by Steve
1 114
What to pay help
phlawncare
08-04-2014 08:33 PM
08-18-2014 10:33 AM
by jrs.landscaping
29 893
Hello
Jeff1
08-07-2014 11:18 PM
08-15-2014 11:53 PM
by Jeff1
11 409
Lie #2 RESIDENTIAL...
ExtremeLawncareServices
01-06-2014 05:02 AM
08-15-2014 01:46 PM
by mattthelawnguy
54 6,391
Need help 30 HP koler...
Shady Grady
08-01-2014 03:31 PM
08-15-2014 08:46 AM
by kslawn
18 586
New Boomless Sprayer!
BlackRain75
01-03-2014 01:01 PM
08-14-2014 02:37 AM
by BlackRain75
12 1,756
Stihl engine isn't...
Marcintosh
08-12-2014 08:30 PM
08-13-2014 03:34 PM
by Steve
3 166
first year update
cmdlawncare
08-12-2014 05:41 PM
08-13-2014 03:29 PM
by Steve
1 213
Hello from Jacksonville,...
JM Lawn Care
08-10-2014 07:15 AM
08-13-2014 07:04 AM
by Sprinkler Buddy
9 313
Hello everyone new to...
maddyandrays
08-11-2014 04:51 PM
08-12-2014 08:58 PM
by Shark1611
2 167
Walk behinds
hpruitcei
08-07-2014 06:28 PM
08-12-2014 02:35 PM
by mattthelawnguy
7 427
New name help
stevef1201
08-10-2014 04:27 PM
08-12-2014 12:03 PM
by Steve
6 296
my little green dilemmas
Lawn Techie
08-03-2014 11:47 AM
08-11-2014 01:20 PM
by Steve
7 410
what the best...
CleanCutsLLC
08-02-2014 01:02 AM
08-11-2014 01:16 PM
by Steve
6 422
Texas lawn care company...
Livingston Lawn Care
07-25-2014 11:29 AM
08-11-2014 01:19 AM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
13 699
Covering all the bases
janslawncare
08-08-2014 10:11 AM
08-08-2014 01:41 PM
by Steve
1 243
New from Florida
ADE
08-06-2014 08:40 PM
08-08-2014 01:32 PM
by Steve
4 324
JOB - Landscape Install...
janslawncare
08-08-2014 10:06 AM
08-08-2014 10:06 AM
by janslawncare
0 208
Battery power tools or...
Steve
08-07-2014 12:24 PM
08-07-2014 05:18 PM
by mattthelawnguy
2 215
My client just told me...
Greg'slawnandlandscape
08-04-2014 08:39 AM
08-06-2014 11:14 PM
by grassdoctore
12 549
Illegal spraying
GoGreenerKS
07-04-2014 09:11 AM
08-06-2014 02:03 PM
by Steve
13 1,169
Mowing the hills
prmenter@gmail.com
07-08-2014 12:22 PM
08-06-2014 01:40 PM
by Steve
20 1,386
Crop Rotation Techniques...
eastsidelandcare
07-17-2014 03:47 PM
08-06-2014 10:29 AM
by eastsidelandcare
5 593
Got my first lawn job...
SGL1
06-11-2014 09:19 PM
08-05-2014 07:12 PM
by TheBeast
30 1,997
Late charge
Simon Abousaada
07-30-2014 07:23 PM
08-05-2014 06:46 PM
by TheBeast
12 797
buy out a lawn care...
rvezakis
08-05-2014 01:38 PM
08-05-2014 06:40 PM
by TheBeast
10 517
Please help
unitedlawncare48867
03-26-2014 08:29 PM
08-05-2014 05:27 PM
by TheBeast
27 1,587
Help with Estimate
donslawns
08-02-2014 09:10 AM
08-05-2014 02:24 PM
by Steve
6 458
Stuck again!!!!
Greg'slawnandlandscape
08-01-2014 11:02 PM
08-05-2014 09:05 AM
by Greg'slawnandlandscape
10 461
Mow and leaf cleanup bid
SGL1
07-29-2014 07:28 PM
08-05-2014 07:22 AM
by petscanning
25 975
Building credit
Matther777
07-27-2014 05:20 PM
08-04-2014 06:53 PM
by kslawn
17 762
Lowballers scrubs &...
Darksteel
01-13-2014 07:35 AM
08-04-2014 01:09 PM
by Steve
48 5,817
long time no see
Tuscan Gardens
08-02-2014 03:21 PM
08-04-2014 12:04 PM
by Steve
1 287
» Popular Tags
apartment bid apartment lawn care estimate care charge christmas lighting christmas light service courtesy call credit card processing customers decorating ecosymbiosis escrow estimate exmark ferris four wheel drive fundraiser gopherhaul grass gravely gravely 34" zero turn hardscapes hills holiday holiday lighting honda how much to charge introduction kawasaki landscape services lawn lawn care lawn care business lawn care business book lawn care business seo lawn care business show lawn care business website lawn care business website seo lawn care website leaf removal managing a lawn care business marketing native plants new buisness new mower online classifieds outdoor environments podcast push versus ride redmax reo rotating scag search engine optimization season seo small engine repair snow sprayer starting a business starting a lawn care business steve stihl toro tractor auger trailer mate pro turfgrass consulting walker wright stander rh zero turn
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:10 AM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:10 AM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy