Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Lawn Care, Landscaping, and Property Management Forums > Outdoor Power Equipment Discussion, Repairs, Buy or Sell

Outdoor Power Equipment Discussion, Repairs, Buy or Sell Outdoor power equipment discussions. Questions on commercial lawn mowers, lawn mower, mower parts, lawn tractors, engines, edgers, trimmers, pole saws, aerators, hydro seeders, snow plows, chain saws, stump grinders, trucks and trailers?

Bad boy MX series or toro Titan?


Outdoor Power Equipment Discussion, Repairs, Buy or Sell

Outdoor power equipment discussions. Questions on commercial lawn mowers, lawn mower, mower parts, lawn tractors, engines, edgers, trimmers, pole saws, aerators, hydro seeders, snow plows, chain saws, stump grinders, trucks and trailers?
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 10-15-2012, 02:04 PM
cpenn481 cpenn481 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: east central Georgia
Posts: 28
Rep Power: 2
cpenn481 is on a distinguished road
Default Bad boy MX series or toro Titan?

So I'm new to all this and am looking into buying a good mid to high end residential mower. My mind isn't ready to fork out the 8-10 grand for a commercial ztr just yet. Any way I demoed a Bad Boy MX4200 today and would really like to look at a Toro Titan. I will say the Bad boy was surely a bad boy! I really liked the construction of it. They had a cub cadet high end residential sitting next to it and it wasn't anywhere near as solidly built. Anyway any info you guys can provide will be greatly appreciated. I did see Cheesee's video last night of him cutting a lawn with his Timecutter. I would be really interested in knowing how well that machine has held up to the abuse of a lawn care business as well. Thanks again guys.
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #2  
Old 10-15-2012, 02:51 PM
LawnBoy0311 LawnBoy0311 is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: East Coast
Posts: 1,169
Rep Power: 0
LawnBoy0311 is on a distinguished road
Default

Lawn care business tipsLawn Care Business Book
I have a timecutter too. I was in the same boat you are...it made sense money wise to spend a few grand than shell out that kind of money for a commercial ztr. I also work a full time job, so it was more so testing the waters before jumping in...because my full time job dictates when I can cut.

When I bought my mower, it had a 3 year warranty. It says its void after commercial use...just make friends with the dealer...mine knows what I really do with it. I've hit some nasty stuff with it, but its held out just fine. The deck is a thin steel, just be mindful of that. I bought it back in June and its already paid for itself. I have the 42", and its perfect for what I use it for. The only thing I don't like is the front wheels squeak like crazy. Enough to give you one heck of a headache. I just bought a grease gun and keep it lubed up and it works fine.

Some might call me a moron for buying a residential mower, but I wanted something on the cheaper side, and new. I'd rather spend the cash buying new than some other companies beat up mower with high hours and constant repairs. If mine made it through next year, or even the year after, I'd say it was well worth it. But ask me then and I'll let you know!
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-15-2012, 05:02 PM
cpenn481 cpenn481 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: east central Georgia
Posts: 28
Rep Power: 2
cpenn481 is on a distinguished road
Default

Thanks for the info Lawn boy. out of curiosity how many hours you think you put on it in a week? Also what would you say the averagew size yard you cut with it is? I find it interesting that you say it has paid for itself already. what did you use before? I noticed to my amazement while looking at the photo section how many folks were using that mower. Perhaps I dont need to count it out just yet.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-15-2012, 06:17 PM
LawnBoy0311 LawnBoy0311 is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: East Coast
Posts: 1,169
Rep Power: 0
LawnBoy0311 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cpenn481 View Post
Thanks for the info Lawn boy. out of curiosity how many hours you think you put on it in a week? Also what would you say the averagew size yard you cut with it is? I find it interesting that you say it has paid for itself already. what did you use before? I noticed to my amazement while looking at the photo section how many folks were using that mower. Perhaps I dont need to count it out just yet.
Hours a week I'd have to say about 10 to 15. The largest I cut is 1 1/2 acres, the average is a little less than a 1/3 acre. Before that, I used a toro self prop. mower. I was doing mostly townhouses, then bought the bigger mower when I got bigger houses. It's paid for itself because the average yard cost for my customers is $57, and some customers are a bit on the lower side. For now, this mower has done fine, and gives me the chance to save up for a commercial ztr.

I wouldn't count out timecutters just yet. I had no idea how many others on here had them, I read the reviews before I bought it. I heard nothing but good things about them.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-15-2012, 06:46 PM
cpenn481 cpenn481 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: east central Georgia
Posts: 28
Rep Power: 2
cpenn481 is on a distinguished road
Default

That's great info, especially on the pricing. Our area is mostly rural and suburban. average rural yard is 2-3 acres most suburb yards here are 1/2 to an full acre leaning more towards the full acre side of things. My mom and dad live out in Houston and their house is on a postage stamp 1/4 acre and house and garage take up most of that. They pay 35 a week for theirs.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-15-2012, 07:05 PM
LawnBoy0311 LawnBoy0311 is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: East Coast
Posts: 1,169
Rep Power: 0
LawnBoy0311 is on a distinguished road
Default

Every area is so different, thats why it gets me when people ask how much any of us would quote. It would be impossible to tell. The cost of living in my area is very high (7th in the country). Where as maybe in yours it could be lower, or higher!

This year has been nuts seeing all the new companies come and go. I see a lot on craigslist too...guys trying to start out, but bought the biggest, best equipment they could and realized they couldn't make payments. In fact, I just found a repo auction today on a lawncare owner.

Keep your costs low and buy more equipment as you grow.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-15-2012, 07:36 PM
cpenn481 cpenn481 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: east central Georgia
Posts: 28
Rep Power: 2
cpenn481 is on a distinguished road
Talking

Yea I imagine the cost of living where I am is fairly low compared to most. That said like everywhere else thats relative. My moms house in Houston is alot nicer than mine but she gave 30 grand less for it. Down here its a tough balance of what you can charge as to what the market can stand.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 01-25-2013, 08:11 AM
cpenn481 cpenn481 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: east central Georgia
Posts: 28
Rep Power: 2
cpenn481 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LawnBoy0311 View Post
Hours a week I'd have to say about 10 to 15. The largest I cut is 1 1/2 acres, the average is a little less than a 1/3 acre. Before that, I used a toro self prop. mower. I was doing mostly townhouses, then bought the bigger mower when I got bigger houses. It's paid for itself because the average yard cost for my customers is $57, and some customers are a bit on the lower side. For now, this mower has done fine, and gives me the chance to save up for a commercial ztr.

I wouldn't count out timecutters just yet. I had no idea how many others on here had them, I read the reviews before I bought it. I heard nothing but good things about them.
Ok Mr lawnboy after much study and agonizing I finally broke down and bought the toro timecutter ss5000 yesterday. Going to pick it up this am. I really wanted the badboy mx because of its welded deck but found I would have a hard time getting it serviced in my area. I angled toward the toro 4235 but then at the store it was sitting next to the 5000 and the difference in beefyness was obvious. We dont have many gates to get through sso the bigger deck isnt really a problem just yet. We have a old snapper rider for the few back yards with gate access and those yards are all small anyway. The hope is it will last us two or three years till we see where this project leads. Like you I didnt realize until I got to really paying attention just how many folks were using timecutters. I think that speaks volumes about the machine by itself. Thanks for the input and wish us luck.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 01-25-2013, 09:10 AM
LawnBoy0311 LawnBoy0311 is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: East Coast
Posts: 1,169
Rep Power: 0
LawnBoy0311 is on a distinguished road
Default

Congrats on the new purchase!!!! That bigger deck will do numbers for you. I wanted the bigger deck, but a lot of my yards have fences where I can just barely squeak by.


My buddy, whos a mechanic, came over and went overmy mower after this past year. He says it held up really well for what I was using it for. He was pretty impressed with it for being a residential mower.

Let me know what you think and good luck!
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 01-25-2013, 11:23 AM
Steve's Avatar
Steve Steve is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 36,307
Rep Power: 10
Steve has disabled reputation
Default

Congratulations on your new purchase! I look forwards to hearing your review.
__________________
- Subscribe to my Lawn Care Marketing Blog Feed and get daily tips sent to you. Free!
Download your Free trial of Gopher Lawn Care Software.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Toro Timecutter (Video by Toro) CHEESE2009 Promote your products or services 2 06-14-2012 01:50 PM
Fertilization job series mowingtowing Gopher Software Support Archived Question & Answers - Read Only 1 06-04-2007 03:04 PM
Job Cluster and Job Series tiedeman Gopher Software Support Archived Question & Answers - Read Only 0 01-19-2007 12:15 PM
job series ? Gopher Software Support Archived Question & Answers - Read Only 1 05-21-2005 06:00 PM
Job Series question Gopher Software Support Archived Question & Answers - Read Only 5 01-23-2005 06:21 PM

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Walk Behinds and Texas...
SGL1
08-26-2014 03:53 PM
Yesterday 11:36 PM
by SGL1
7 254
snowplowing
jshak40
Yesterday 07:20 AM
Yesterday 07:55 PM
by jrs.landscaping
5 118
Brake job!
kslawn
08-30-2014 07:49 AM
Yesterday 05:57 PM
by 04bluesilverado
5 162
Trailer tires
J.A.S.LawnService
Yesterday 10:17 AM
Yesterday 11:39 AM
by stevef1201
1 67
Mowing 7 acres
avetslawncare
08-31-2014 04:24 PM
08-31-2014 05:55 PM
by stevef1201
3 117
Help pricing cut down 7...
Bradcook21
08-26-2014 11:17 PM
08-31-2014 04:48 PM
by avetslawncare
6 238
New to the industry-...
Lsmain
08-31-2014 10:53 AM
08-31-2014 10:53 AM
by Lsmain
0 90
Sod
RosalesLawnCare
08-27-2014 03:47 PM
08-30-2014 07:00 PM
by RosalesLawnCare
2 181
Lawn Route Templates
Landscaper1165
08-30-2014 01:52 PM
08-30-2014 05:04 PM
by stevef1201
1 113
Exmark Lazer Z S-Series...
BLC7
08-22-2014 10:18 AM
08-30-2014 09:49 AM
by BLC7
10 415
Hello! New here and...
CaliforniaFriendly
08-29-2014 11:30 AM
08-29-2014 05:39 PM
by jrs.landscaping
1 136
Stihl engine isn't...
Marcintosh
08-12-2014 08:30 PM
08-28-2014 09:28 PM
by Marcintosh
12 556
Hello
jawnebgoode
08-28-2014 08:37 PM
08-28-2014 08:37 PM
by jawnebgoode
0 76
Hello from Ohio
kurtwin
08-28-2014 05:06 PM
08-28-2014 05:06 PM
by kurtwin
0 103
Softball field
kslawn
08-15-2014 09:28 AM
08-28-2014 12:01 PM
by Steve
16 638
Lawn needs top soil What...
jymie
08-26-2014 11:01 AM
08-28-2014 11:58 AM
by Steve
5 241
Say Hello !!!
Steve
03-19-2007 11:18 AM
08-27-2014 08:33 PM
by kurtwin
1,187 331,290
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
03-22-2014 09:12 AM
08-26-2014 04:21 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
110 6,694
How do I approach...
Bradcook21
08-21-2014 01:48 AM
08-26-2014 05:08 AM
by Billy Goat
12 540
Tender Process
M2Dave
08-24-2014 12:31 PM
08-25-2014 04:14 PM
by Steve
2 222
Grass hopper mower
ExtremeLawncareServices
12-05-2013 08:51 AM
08-25-2014 04:02 PM
by Steve
26 3,880
Need help pricing basic...
Bradcook21
08-22-2014 01:21 AM
08-22-2014 01:05 PM
by Steve
2 313
Yearly contract Pricing
jrob0691
08-21-2014 08:57 AM
08-22-2014 01:01 PM
by Steve
6 388
yearly contract help...
jrob0691
08-21-2014 04:09 PM
08-22-2014 12:48 PM
by Steve
1 258
Pampas bushes
Bradcook21
08-22-2014 01:30 AM
08-22-2014 07:17 AM
by grassdoctore
1 230
2014 Gie-expo
ExtremeLawncareServices
08-19-2014 11:22 PM
08-21-2014 08:50 PM
by phlawncare
2 267
Fuel Can Spouts
Shark1611
08-16-2014 09:09 AM
08-21-2014 08:23 PM
by SGL1
11 512
Have you ever had to...
SouthernRootsLawnCare
07-26-2014 02:41 PM
08-21-2014 05:03 PM
by stevef1201
6 768
Hello
M2Dave
08-21-2014 12:32 AM
08-21-2014 01:38 PM
by Steve
1 237
New Landscaping Business
rekon32
08-16-2014 02:26 PM
08-21-2014 12:33 PM
by SouthallMowing
8 571
Downed Tree Chop Bid
WesleySnips
08-16-2014 03:47 PM
08-20-2014 01:44 PM
by SGL1
10 539
60 inch honda/bunton...
pblawncare
08-17-2014 11:30 AM
08-18-2014 03:19 PM
by Steve
2 281
Replacement Parts -...
nicholas-KC
08-16-2014 08:40 AM
08-18-2014 03:16 PM
by Steve
4 393
Preparing the soil
Billy Goat
08-16-2014 06:18 PM
08-18-2014 03:01 PM
by Steve
1 307
What to pay help
phlawncare
08-04-2014 08:33 PM
08-18-2014 10:33 AM
by jrs.landscaping
29 1,139
Hello
Jeff1
08-07-2014 11:18 PM
08-15-2014 11:53 PM
by Jeff1
11 594
Lie #2 RESIDENTIAL...
ExtremeLawncareServices
01-06-2014 05:02 AM
08-15-2014 01:46 PM
by mattthelawnguy
54 6,711
Need help 30 HP koler...
Shady Grady
08-01-2014 03:31 PM
08-15-2014 08:46 AM
by kslawn
18 772
New Boomless Sprayer!
BlackRain75
01-03-2014 01:01 PM
08-14-2014 02:37 AM
by BlackRain75
12 1,972
first year update
cmdlawncare
08-12-2014 05:41 PM
08-13-2014 03:29 PM
by Steve
1 400
Hello from Jacksonville,...
JM Lawn Care
08-10-2014 07:15 AM
08-13-2014 07:04 AM
by Sprinkler Buddy
9 520
Hello everyone new to...
maddyandrays
08-11-2014 04:51 PM
08-12-2014 08:58 PM
by Shark1611
2 354
Walk behinds
hpruitcei
08-07-2014 06:28 PM
08-12-2014 02:35 PM
by mattthelawnguy
7 627
New name help
stevef1201
08-10-2014 04:27 PM
08-12-2014 12:03 PM
by Steve
6 506
my little green dilemmas
Lawn Techie
08-03-2014 11:47 AM
08-11-2014 01:20 PM
by Steve
7 602
what the best...
CleanCutsLLC
08-02-2014 01:02 AM
08-11-2014 01:16 PM
by Steve
6 653
Texas lawn care company...
Livingston Lawn Care
07-25-2014 11:29 AM
08-11-2014 01:19 AM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
13 905
Covering all the bases
janslawncare
08-08-2014 10:11 AM
08-08-2014 01:41 PM
by Steve
1 445
New from Florida
ADE
08-06-2014 08:40 PM
08-08-2014 01:32 PM
by Steve
4 509
JOB - Landscape Install...
janslawncare
08-08-2014 10:06 AM
08-08-2014 10:06 AM
by janslawncare
0 400
» Popular Tags
advertisement apartment complex article marketing bid blades charge christmas lighting courtesy call credit card processing customers decorating ditches ecosymbiosis employee problems escrow exmark ferris first truck fundraiser georgia gopherhaul grass gravely gravely 34" zero turn growing a lawn care business holiday lighting honda how much to charge kawasaki landscape services lawn lawn care lawn care business book lawn care business podcast lawn care business seo lawn care business show lawn care business website lawn care business website seo lawn care seo lawn care website lawn care website seo leaf removal lighting brass outdoor lights marketing native plants new buisness online classifieds outdoor environments podcast pto redmax rotating running a business savannah scag season seo snow snow plowing sprayer starting a business steep lawns stihl sulky toro toro grand stand trimmer rack turfgrass consulting walker zero turn
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:20 AM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:20 AM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy