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Trials & Tribulations - The drama of running a business and of life. It's not as easy as it looks. Running a business is full of drama. Customers, employees, money, family, time. You name it, it's a problem. Share with us your drama and how you handled it.

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Trials & Tribulations - The drama of running a business and of life.

It's not as easy as it looks. Running a business is full of drama. Customers, employees, money, family, time. You name it, it's a problem. Share with us your drama and how you handled it.
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Old 10-05-2012, 09:13 PM
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Kinda hard to make anything per hour when you work one job, one day per week. My last month revenue was $20 per week, I guess on a 40 hour week you can say I made $.50 per hour.

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Why are you not making money per hour?

What is your gut telling you as to the reason why this isn't working for you yet? Take a moment and step back from it all and tell me your thoughts on this.
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jasonw I just checked out your craigslist ad
I would list what you do not just talk about unlicensed out of town people.
If someone searches c-list for lawn care, fall cleanup, mulch, mowing..... you will not come up
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jason- send me an email. lets get you back up and running turning a profit. even with a little while left. jcboyd1210@yahoo.com
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I learned over the past few years that the following is the most critical things you can and should do for your business:

Website - Have it listed on as many search engines as you can. Make sure the website is rich in keywords of all the services that you provide and be sure to include the towns by name and zipcode in your keywords.

List your business on as many free business directories as you can. Google is your friend, google *Free Business Directory*

List your business on google places, Bing places and yahoo places. They are the first things that appear in search results.

Craigslist & Backpage - Every ad you place on craigslist or backpage should include all the same keywords you have on your website as listed above, otherwise no one will see your ad. Picture ads still need keywords written separate from the picture ad as pics are not searchable. Make sure to provide a link to your website in all advertising.

When you service a customer, have you handed out advertising to the rest of the street? I have picked up several customers that way.

Signs on your truck doors and Trailer with your phone number. Having a sign on the back gate that includes your logo, phone number & list of services is huge as well. Hand out business cards to everyone you meet, great places to do that is grocery stores, gas stations, bars choose a bar where older folks go.

Have a page on your website totally geared for people to request a quote for a service from you. This year alone I received 69 quote requests just from that one page.. You can see it here: http://lunchesruslawncare.com/lunchesruscontact_us.htm

You can design your own quote page here: http://www.emailmeform.com/ The best part is I use the basic plan which is free, you get 200 submissions a month. See the plans page here: http://www.emailmeform.com/v-plans.html

Its very easy to work with, once you design the page the way you want it, save it then copy the code for it, paste the code into your websites page and thats it. You get an email every time some one completes the form.

Another thing I did this year was get listed on Angies List, I got customers from there as well.

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Old 10-06-2012, 11:02 AM
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here is a list of ad keyword I use on craigslist

lawn service, lawn-care, lawn care,
cut, mower, lawnmower, mow, insured, insurance, licensed, registered, estimate, edge, trim, leaf blower, blow, blowing, sidewalk, driveway,
walkway, mulch, mulching, mulches, spring, fall, clean-up, cleanup, twigs, weeds, branches, trees, recycled, recycling, compost, summer,
winter, rain barrel, weed-wack, weedwhacking, weedeat, weed-eat, weedeater, shrubs, shrubbery, bush, hedges, forsythia, trimming, hedge, hedge trimming, hedge trim
cutting, pruning, fertilize, organic fertilizer, fertilizing, plant, plants, planting, beds, flowerbed, garden, gardens, raised garden, prune, annuals,
flowers, flower, rake, raking, shovel, digging, sweep, haul, hauling, debris, removal, honest, honesty, integrity, pride, diligent, reliable,
responsible, fair, detail-oriented, affordable, satisfaction, lawn mowing, grass cutting, lawn mowing, landscaper, landscape, landscaping, cut grass, mowing grass, lawn, low priced, affordable, affordably priced, curb appeal, gardener, maintenance, lawn maintenance, maintenance, maintenance, fertilizer, organic, sod, low emissions, free estimate, estimates, green, handyman, water conservation, pond, fountain, fountain, thinning, removal, chain saw, lot, vacant lot, property, hauling, roses, bush, bushes, trimmer, snow blower, snow thrower, pole pruner, pruner, shaping, cutting, push mower, discount, referral discount, low priced, landscaper, landscaping, pet, pet friendly, pet-friendly, dog, pet safe, pet-safe, weekly, biweekly, bi weekly, monthly, annual, annuals, last minute, hurry, asap, quote

Of course I add the city(ies) I work in or am looking to work in

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"If you have lost the passion or love for your lawn mowing business donít just hang it up or quit. Take a step back and start over, YES I said start over. Reevaluate your commitment to yourself, employees and customers.
Operating a lawn mowing business can be scary in any economy. Having the right people in place for your operation will create time for you to market and promote weekly services. If you think your lawn business will run itself after it has grown, forget it. The landscape industry is demanding. Only hard-working and committed individuals will succeed."


Okay there it is Jason...This quote is from one of my posts on my website.

Here is what I am offering you today:

I'm not gonna promise you anything, but I will guarantee you a re-vamping of your website for FREE that will get you found....yes I can do that, and since I see you like WordPress...you just fell into my trap..lol

I love WordPress and actually have built several business websites, for $$...but for you my man...F ~ R ~ E ~ E ~ , plus I have access to 70+ Themes you can choose from and I will Host your website FREE...

Never have I offered to build, host or SEO a website for FREE, but your story TRAPPED me...

YOU ARE SAYING "Too good to be true"....
  • Here is the deal, Steve(GopherHaul)has provided a forum for instructions on how to be successful. And over the past few years I have been a member here these instructions have only increased my knowledge and income in the Green industry.

So yes this is a pay it forward situation....take it or leave it.. The only thing I need is a commitment from you to take your business to the next level...DO NOT BE FOOLED, I am busy as fckn HELL! !
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Jason how are things going?
Still thinking it over, is there anything you need help with?
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I sent you an email the same day but never got a response.


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Things are going as good as they can, I am sitting at home no working other than my day job lol. If there is anything good to come of this I have been redoing my shop while I consider if I am going to stay in the business. Now I have all 3 tractors in the shop which is the first time I have ever been able to fit them all. I am still undecided if I want to continue. I would love to continue if something will happen but I can not keep losing money. The bottom line is after 3 years of hard work I now have $4.40 in my business account. If it were not for my good paying day job I would have lost everything a long time ago. I am NOT in a position that I can invest a lot of money to keep going, for 3 years now I have only worked for the opportunity to say I own a business but I have made nothing from said business, got some cool toys but have no profit to show for it. My only real worry is that if I keep investing time and money to it that it will never change, I am here to work for money not work for nothing. I am thinking that the local economy and unlicensed competition is just way to much for any honest person to sustain a business.

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I would reevaluate your prices. Theres no way your charging enough if you dont leave every job with something.

Then I would look at expenses. Your prices could be in line and your cost are to high. I have never lost money or broke even. Then again If I cant get the job for my price I walk.

The other part would be lack of work. If your not working enough look at your marketing. Drop everything that is not working for you and only stick to what had results. This is a complicated thing to do because sometimes its good for your name to be seen even if you dont get a call.

Other then that branch out to other companies. I been looking for snow subs for two months now and have had no responses. I pay these guys $75 a hour or give them a site to do for the year.
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