Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum > Business > Trials & Tribulations - The drama of running a business and of life.

Trials & Tribulations - The drama of running a business and of life. It's not as easy as it looks. Running a business is full of drama. Customers, employees, money, family, time. You name it, it's a problem. Share with us your drama and how you handled it.

Pay me now.


Trials & Tribulations - The drama of running a business and of life.

It's not as easy as it looks. Running a business is full of drama. Customers, employees, money, family, time. You name it, it's a problem. Share with us your drama and how you handled it.
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #11  
Old 09-03-2012, 03:02 PM
AkersLawn AkersLawn is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 21
Rep Power: 2
AkersLawn is on a distinguished road
Default

Scott, I love your post dated checks. That is surely the way to go, I'm finally finding out. Next year will be different, I'd rather have my headache be more along the lines of... gosh i'm so overloaded with work.... than.... well I have money, sort of, like when i get paid ....
Im able to take credit/debit cards, and of course checks and cash. Next year it will be post dated check, prepaid with a card, or at the time of service, with no revisit until I get paid. Also, I will absolutely not under any circumstances drop the damn tailgate for less than 25$.
Reply With Quote

Stop guess-timating. Learn how to estimate and make money! $$$
Mow Time Estimator Lawn Care Price Estimator Mulch and Topsoil Calculator Snow Plow Estimate Calculator


  #12  
Old 09-03-2012, 03:15 PM
SECTLANDSCAPING's Avatar
SECTLANDSCAPING SECTLANDSCAPING is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: CT
Posts: 1,697
Rep Power: 5
SECTLANDSCAPING is on a distinguished road
Default

Lawn care business tips
Quote:
Originally Posted by AkersLawn View Post
Scott, I love your post dated checks. That is surely the way to go, I'm finally finding out. Next year will be different, I'd rather have my headache be more along the lines of... gosh i'm so overloaded with work.... than.... well I have money, sort of, like when i get paid ....
Im able to take credit/debit cards, and of course checks and cash. Next year it will be post dated check, prepaid with a card, or at the time of service, with no revisit until I get paid. Also, I will absolutely not under any circumstances drop the damn tailgate for less than 25$.
I been burned by debit, paypal, and checks. All 3 options allow chargebacks/stop payments. I wont be surprised the day someone hands me monopoly money.
__________________
South Eastern Connecticut Landscaping /Lawn Care /Pressure Washing /Snow Removal /Gutter Cleaning
52" Brutus/52" Super Surfer/44" Pro Line/60" ZMaster
EB630/EB802/EBZ7150/EBZ8000/BR400/Billy Goat 8Hp
FS55&90/FC95/km110/L322&326/TR2350S
HC150/HC155/CHTZ2460
CS440/MS290
Case 1816 Skid
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 09-03-2012, 03:29 PM
dpld's Avatar
dpld dpld is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: nj
Posts: 704
Rep Power: 2
dpld is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SECTLANDSCAPING View Post
I been burned by debit, paypal, and checks. All 3 options allow chargebacks/stop payments. I wont be surprised the day someone hands me monopoly money.

my sentiments exactly, there is no substitute for having a signed contract with every detail spelled out.
this way you have all your bases covered in the event you need to get judge wapner involved.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 09-03-2012, 06:19 PM
AkersLawn AkersLawn is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 21
Rep Power: 2
AkersLawn is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SECTLANDSCAPING View Post
I been burned by debit, paypal, and checks. All 3 options allow chargebacks/stop payments. I wont be surprised the day someone hands me monopoly money.
Yes i've found that the only way to take plastic is to charge it every time. The thing that gets me the most is people looking at me like im some sort of A-Hole for requesting payment at or before the time of service. I've gotten good at this ....
Client:
So how do i know you will do the work?
Al: Well if you are concerned you can pay at the time of service
Client: I'd be more comfortable billed at the end of the month
Al: What are you eating for dinner tonight?
Client : ..... Uh.... Rocky mtn Oysters ... why?
Al: When you bought those Oysters, did you tell walmart you'd like to be billed monthly or when you picked up your groceries, did you pay then?

Never Fails.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 09-03-2012, 06:32 PM
CHEESE2009's Avatar
CHEESE2009 CHEESE2009 is offline
Dr. Scott - Ruler of the Underworld
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: I like to complain a lot.
Age: 72
Posts: 4,310
Rep Power: 9
CHEESE2009 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by AkersLawn View Post
Al: When you bought those Oysters, did you tell walmart


Walmart has Oysters?! :O <3
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 09-04-2012, 08:10 AM
wat5150's Avatar
wat5150 wat5150 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 540
Rep Power: 2
wat5150 is on a distinguished road
Default

Wow...eating bull balls...nice
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 09-04-2012, 08:41 AM
lonestarlawn lonestarlawn is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: North Texas
Posts: 21
Rep Power: 1
lonestarlawn is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CHEESE2009 View Post
Everyone should utilize post-dated cheques, it's so simple!!!!!
Thats how I'd like to have things running. How do you sell this to new customers? I can't get anyone to pay for more than 1 mow at a time.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 09-04-2012, 11:24 PM
CHEESE2009's Avatar
CHEESE2009 CHEESE2009 is offline
Dr. Scott - Ruler of the Underworld
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: I like to complain a lot.
Age: 72
Posts: 4,310
Rep Power: 9
CHEESE2009 is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by lonestarlawn View Post
Thats how I'd like to have things running. How do you sell this to new customers? I can't get anyone to pay for more than 1 mow at a time.

With speaking to several other people on the forum and out of my city, I have to say that it highly depends on your area.

In my area, it's completely normal for businesses like ours to charge clients for the full season, regardless if we miss a few visits (grass stops growing, etc) we'll still get paid.

I have a feeling it has to deal with the pricing. In my city, our service is 40% less expensive then anywhere else in the world, so I suppose we wouldn't settle for 'pay-per-visit' lawn maintenance.

The majority of you would probably have to quadruple your clientele in order to make what you are making today financially, just in my area.

-

Another example would be snow removal, this is where WE usually have the advantage over most people.

A lot of people (not from my city) charge per job during the winter, this lacks in consistency, $$$. In my city, we charge for the entire season, regardless of how much it snows.

The problem is, the more it snows, the more money WE lose vs the more it snows, the more money YOU make. Both are good and bad, depending on the winter.

Our chances of making more money is greater, but so is our chances of losing it all. lol... Winter is a gamble.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 09-05-2012, 05:53 PM
AkersLawn AkersLawn is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 21
Rep Power: 2
AkersLawn is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CHEESE2009 View Post
Walmart has Oysters?! :O <3
Hahaha Hell if i know, just trying to make a point !

I wonder how most companies in my area charge, for the season or per visit. I have a hard time getting people to pay me in advance, and it seems more of a trust issue than anything. And snow removal too, I have a large snow removal account. Im hired by a large maintenance company that does thousands and thousands of various corporate stores nationwide, and they pay for the season. However, all the commercial bids I've sent around and all the companies where im trying to get my foot in the door, want either a Per-Push, or an hourly rate.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 09-07-2012, 09:30 AM
CHEESE2009's Avatar
CHEESE2009 CHEESE2009 is offline
Dr. Scott - Ruler of the Underworld
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: I like to complain a lot.
Age: 72
Posts: 4,310
Rep Power: 9
CHEESE2009 is on a distinguished road
Default

I think it's worth a shot to try and bring into your area.

Giving the clients the choice as to when they should require your service is a bad idea.

Your contract should have something like:

Lawn Maintenance
3x $xxx.xx : May 1, 2013 and Jul 1, 2013 and Sep 1, 2013

Checks must be accompanied with a copy of your signed contract and made payable to: «COMPANY NAME»

Attached Images
File Type: jpg exampleCTRCT.jpg (30.9 KB, 2 views)

Last edited by CHEESE2009; 09-07-2012 at 09:39 AM.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Thoughts, 52" Toro Z...
Lopes Lawn Care
Today 06:37 PM
Today 06:56 PM
by SECTLANDSCAPING
1 11
Two for Two - Woo-Hoo!...
Hedgemaster
04-18-2011 09:37 PM
Today 06:54 PM
by Hedgemaster
193 38,733
Best String trimmers?
JeepNjo
04-07-2013 12:32 AM
Today 06:40 PM
by cajuntiger
29 2,956
Better a late start then...
MightyandTidy
Yesterday 03:53 PM
Today 04:53 PM
by MightyandTidy
3 163
Owner of $700,000 home...
Hedgemaster
06-04-2013 10:31 PM
Today 04:51 PM
by Hedgemaster
56 1,949
Is this a good buy for a...
Outfield Lawn Care
06-12-2013 04:09 PM
Today 04:34 PM
by SECTLANDSCAPING
9 448
Hedge Trimming...
thegrounduplawncare
Yesterday 09:33 PM
Today 03:57 PM
by thegrounduplawncare
9 184
My New Lawn Signs -...
Hedgemaster
06-20-2011 11:02 PM
Today 03:43 PM
by CHEESE2009
42 9,821
Is it near impossible to...
ratchetmaster2
05-28-2013 10:04 AM
Today 03:30 PM
by CHEESE2009
19 1,388
just ordered a Dixie...
t-10yrs2retire
Today 02:11 PM
Today 02:11 PM
by t-10yrs2retire
0 41
Help! Need opinions
LawnBoy0311
05-10-2013 11:26 AM
Today 01:43 PM
by LawnBoy0311
17 1,061
Trailer park - please...
Codymac08
Today 12:55 PM
Today 12:55 PM
by Codymac08
0 51
Hedge Video
CHEESE2009
Yesterday 05:58 PM
Today 11:05 AM
by Steve
9 213
Started a New Solar Lawn...
Solar Lawn Care
06-08-2013 01:40 AM
Today 10:53 AM
by Steve
23 865
Started two months ago -...
Solar Lawn Care
06-16-2013 09:54 AM
Today 10:51 AM
by Steve
6 284
2013 Toro TurfMaster 30"...
CuttingEdgeLawnServiceLLC
06-14-2013 07:10 PM
Today 07:24 AM
by CuttingEdgeLawnServiceLLC
9 369
TheBrothersList.com
mac83
06-15-2013 10:08 AM
Today 06:08 AM
by mac83
6 332
Bobcat Pro Cat with ISO...
bradsnipes
06-15-2013 12:09 AM
Today 01:37 AM
by bradsnipes
3 261
Wet then turns hot and...
Wolf4dk
06-13-2013 10:17 PM
Today 12:57 AM
by CHEESE2009
10 441
Dump Insert Install
SECTLANDSCAPING
06-16-2013 12:43 PM
Yesterday 06:05 PM
by SECTLANDSCAPING
8 257
Seo
superyards
05-10-2013 10:19 AM
Yesterday 12:19 PM
by Steve
14 1,336
Need something on the...
Wolf4dk
06-13-2013 09:05 PM
Yesterday 12:06 PM
by Steve
4 304
We're all pretty much...
CHEESE2009
06-14-2013 10:59 PM
Yesterday 11:59 AM
by Steve
2 244
Something seems real...
xandrew245x
06-11-2013 02:34 PM
Yesterday 10:45 AM
by Steve
13 592
Subdivision
smr91481
06-14-2013 07:42 AM
Yesterday 10:42 AM
by Steve
7 350
Same Old
Apex Lawn & Landscape
06-15-2013 11:16 PM
Yesterday 05:40 AM
by LawnBoy0311
2 144
Teenager wanting to mow...
clutchcarrot
05-20-2013 09:17 PM
06-16-2013 01:27 PM
by bruces
7 711
In the ballpark?
smr91481
06-15-2013 08:21 PM
06-16-2013 09:10 AM
by dpld
4 250
Anyone ever use or own...
wat5150
10-02-2012 10:43 AM
06-15-2013 08:20 AM
by dpld
5 1,420
commercial grade battery...
espartolawncare
07-28-2009 08:43 PM
06-14-2013 11:39 PM
by Solar Lawn Care
41 10,659
toro 40 walk behind
bluebird
06-13-2013 05:09 PM
06-14-2013 10:47 PM
by Hedgemaster
3 338
Cheap Trimmer and...
Hedgemaster
08-16-2011 10:12 PM
06-14-2013 08:55 PM
by Hedgemaster
31 7,696
B&S 4 cycle weedeater...
Just for Cuts
06-13-2013 10:44 PM
06-14-2013 05:16 PM
by Just for Cuts
7 329
Just kicking the tires
mancrypt
06-14-2013 06:18 AM
06-14-2013 11:49 AM
by Steve
1 244
My experience so far
smr91481
06-12-2013 06:57 AM
06-14-2013 11:29 AM
by Steve
7 433
Ummm NO THANKS! Pics of...
Hedgemaster
06-01-2012 06:57 PM
06-14-2013 09:14 AM
by Landmark Landscapes
15 2,654
Say Hello !!!
Steve
03-19-2007 11:18 AM
06-13-2013 11:28 PM
by Gforce
1,123 198,724
stupid...
t-10yrs2retire
06-13-2013 05:00 AM
06-13-2013 07:48 PM
by t-10yrs2retire
9 371
Business Virgins
Ninaryan09
08-18-2010 11:26 PM
06-13-2013 05:13 PM
by LawnBoy0311
14 1,878
Making it official
smr91481
06-10-2013 09:23 AM
06-13-2013 01:28 PM
by smr91481
7 485
Cost of mulch color jets
echochevydude
06-07-2013 07:46 PM
06-13-2013 11:18 AM
by Steve
3 493
Bored
SECTLANDSCAPING
06-08-2013 10:34 AM
06-13-2013 11:07 AM
by Steve
9 635
Buying an existing...
etnova12
06-11-2013 12:28 AM
06-13-2013 07:36 AM
by dpld
9 528
learned costing. prices...
t-10yrs2retire
06-07-2013 08:04 PM
06-13-2013 05:12 AM
by t-10yrs2retire
15 856
Do you guys think it is...
lawnboy47
06-05-2013 06:33 PM
06-13-2013 12:12 AM
by lawnboy47
24 1,291
Hedges
Matther777
06-11-2013 11:03 PM
06-12-2013 10:13 PM
by Hedgemaster
10 469
Trailer sizes
xandrew245x
06-12-2013 04:57 PM
06-12-2013 06:34 PM
by xandrew245x
2 352
Odd request
jimnfor
06-11-2013 05:51 PM
06-12-2013 02:02 PM
by Steve
3 367
Hello from Minnesota
Wolf4dk
06-09-2013 10:04 PM
06-11-2013 07:27 PM
by xandrew245x
6 485
I am also new to this.
CrissieRose
06-11-2013 09:18 AM
06-11-2013 11:08 AM
by Steve
1 360
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:12 PM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:12 PM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy