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Old 02-13-2013, 12:07 PM
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Not saying your a ruthless dictator at all. Zero years experience vs. 20+ years experience. One has the knowledge and experience to get jobs done and quoted within reason, while the other doesn't.

And there IS money in just mowing. IF you do it right and find your niche. A good example is TJ Justice and just-mowing.com He found a way to make a killing. He also used to do full service accounts and gave it up to "just mow". Many tried the same idea, and they failed for various reasons. It's finding out what works best for your and doing a lot of it.

You often hear of employees venturing off and starting their own business. Most of us did it!!!!! But what they don't understand is....anyone can push a mower, not everyone can run a business. The business part is where people fail. If you can find a mentor or work under someone who is willing to teach you, your way ahead of the game. Many business owners won't do that for fear of competition.

The OP sounds like he has his head in the game. Reality is he won't hit $1 million his first year and he knows that. With a little fine tuning and reading up on these threads, I know he will go far.

i was only joking about the ruthless dictator part.

there are some who have made a decent living just mowing but the odds are against most who only do that and TJ Justice is not the rule, he is the exception.
there are only so many lawns you can do in a day and no matter who you are there will be a point in time where another crew will be needed and the profit margin is low enough to the point that if you were to make a boatload of money it would be by huge volume.

there are exceptions depending on what region you are in and in some states the mowing season is long and there is no snow and usually no big clean ups like we have here in the north east for example and if you are in a condensed area with little cookie cutter properties i could see that as a viable business model.

i make good money mowing but we do that four days a week and in the fall that is all we do but we also make double that doing mulching, tree & shrub pruning and plantings and so forth and we only do that 2 days a week weather permitting as well as for only about half the season.

pound for pound the most profitable end of the business is the extra work.
i have a big crew and when we mulch we can do 40 to 60 yards of mulch in a day at $70.00 per yard and outside of running the truck back and forth picking up loads of mulch at the depot the only real cost is paying the help and providing a few wheel barrows and rakes.
where as the mowing end of the business we have the same exact costs in labor as well as many thousands of dollars in equipment, fuel, etc, etc.

i love what i do but i live for the extra work because the grass pays the bills and gives me a decent profit but the extras are all profit.
i have it structured where the grass pays all the costs for help, equipment, taxes and so forth and when it is time to go do some mulching or planting or whatever, outside of material costs that money goes right in the pocket.

as i said i would not rule out mowing only entirely but that all depends on where you are and going by my state and how it works here as a business you would be cutting yourself short because most of the market here is looking for a one call does it all company and people do not want to be bothered with hiring a guy to do the lawn and a guy to do the mulching and planting and a guy to apply the chemicals.

new jersey is a good place to have a business in regards to there is a lot of money here but the demands of the market here are high and the typical customer here wants what they want and they want it now.

and they just would not get that from a mow only operation.

plus it is nice to have a variety and even if you have your help do all the work it is nice for them and helps them out by not being on a mower 6 days a week and my guys look forward to fridays and saturdays because it gives them a break from the grind of cutting grass and i love it because those are the days i get to make real money.
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