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Old 02-10-2012, 10:22 AM
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remember to make sure your insurance will cover you, a stump grinder is more likely then a mower to break a window or even hurt someone. I think here to do stumps you need tree trimmers insurance.
unless you specifically tell your agent to cover you for stump grinding, you will not be covered.
it is not a throw in for insurers.

secondly, stump grinding charges by the inch not the hour and 3.50 is the minimum for ideal conditions.
depending on what type of teeth a machine has they can be anywhere from 4.00 to 13.00 per tooth and contact with one big rock will wipe out the whole set and whether you rent it or own it you are responsible for the teeth.

my machine holds 34 teeth at 9.00 a pop and if i am doing a 100.00 stump and i am not carefull there goes 300.00 worth of teeth.

lastly, don't let that little machine fool you, always think saftey saftey safety.
always wear a hardhat with face and hearing protection and don't face the machine towards anything of value.
i have had rocks the size of softballs hit me in the shins at a 100 mph and leave lumbs bigger then the rock that hit me.
i have gotten hit in the face countless times while wearing protection because you are dealing with rocks a high velocity and i have had my hardhat with face shield and hearing protection bitch slapped off my head like i was a red headed stepchild.

stump grinding for me when it arises is something i have to do more then i want to do.
it is very deceptive to the untrained eye and may lead you to believe it is highly profitable but really is not.
if you own the machine the maintenence is 100 times more then anything you use to cut grass, teeth are exspensive and you go through a ton of them.
those little machines are not cheap for what you get and for the average stump it is just a toy.
sure it will do the job but if you use it all the time you will see what i see.

i have a rayco 1625 self propelled and a tow behind vermeer 630a and the rayco will do a 36 inch hardwood stump in a hour or less depending on the roots and rocks and my vermeer will do it in 10 minutes.
my point is that it is hard to price them hourly because more often then not you will be overchargeing them if you are useing a little rental.

i do everything i can with the big machine and if i have a stump in the back yard with a gate or tough to reach location i use the rayco self propelled and i charge a little more for it because it takes longer.
for example: we have a 36 inch wide stump with easy access in the front yard i charge 4.00 per inch plus tax and i am out of there in 20 minutes for a total of 154.08.
compare that to a guy renting the little machine that is charging lets say 40.00 per hour.
it is gonna take him a few hours to grind it all a solid 10 inches below grade and when it is said and done he will charge 214.00 for the same stump.

the customer pays more and you make less after the rental and if you own the machine you will put a couple bucks more in your pocket but the customer will pay more for the guy renting then the dude that owns the right equipment.

basicly it boils down to that those little machines are designed to be used only when you can not get a bigger machine on the stump and are really not meant to be a stand alone machine.
they are great for little shrub stumps but when you get into the big wood their weaknesses are exposed.

i only say what i am as a way to foreworn anyone about some of the issues to be aware of with stumps and trees.
i am not trying to talk anyone out of it or say its not worth doing, all i am saying is that anything related to trees has a very fickle hand of fate that comes with it and it is very easy to get into trouble doing it or get a reputation of being high priced.

so if stump jumping is what you want to do, good luck and for god's sake be carefull.

Last edited by dpld; 02-10-2012 at 10:27 AM.
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