Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum

» Welcome to the Gopher Lawn Care Business Forum
View Single Post
  #5  
Old 01-25-2012, 07:28 AM
dpld dpld is offline
new member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: nj
Posts: 885
Rep Power: 0
dpld is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by IVPropertyMaintenance View Post
That's a great point about expanding the business to help make more per hour rate. I have a 42 HP Tractor with a backhoe attachment and a box scraper as well. It was purchased for cleaning up my grandpa's property. It basically sits around not doing much. I think about all the potential new customers I could get by offering it as a service. My fear is getting in over my head. I am a firm believer in starting small and growing at a steady rate. I don't want to feel like I've rushed into anything too quickly. I think it will be rather easy to merge myself into that field once I feel more comfortable with a stable clientele.

I guess my overall dream would be to have a couple 2 man crews, each with their own trucks. Hopefully this would allow me the time to take on larger jobs while they perform the more basic yard care tasks.

I must say that one reason I understand why the competitors work for themselves instead of hiring crews. That reason is that there seems to be a lack of quality employees in this area. That will definitely be one of my biggest challenges, to find people who are willing to represent my business in a professional way...

if you allready have the machine and you decide you want to make money with it you will not be getting in over your head and you will also be able to stick to your guns in keeping it simple.

the whole starting small theory is based upon not signing your life away and going into debt before you even make money.

in my state i have seen many guys who are tired of their jobs working in whatever or lose their jobs and decide that one day they will wake up and be a landscaper and start making the big bucks.
then they see companies like mine or my freinds that are well established businesses for over twenty years and they think they are gonna do the same thing.
so they figure they got good credit and they go out and sign their lives away and buy brand new trucks and enclosed trailers and all new riding mowers and blowers and all the fixings and go put a fancy add in the phone book and newspapers.
now they start to see work coming in and they start to think that it is that easy and they are a genius.
but then the reality sets in.
they went out and dumped 150,000 dollars into equipment on credit that effectively doubles their insurance to protect the bank notes on it only to find out that with all that equipment they still have no clue what to do and realize there is a big difference in how you manage a property as a professional service provider vs how they did it when they cut their own lawn.

then finally they realize that they are only able to get 40 to 50 dollars a cut because there are 5 million landscapers out there to compete with that will gladly do it for less and at the end of the month it is costing them more money then they are making.
they find out the hard way that they failed to take into consideration that when they made their new career choice by looking at a company like mine or my freinds that we busted our azzes for over twenty years to get to this point and when we started out we started out from nothing and slowly worked our way up to this point.
they also fail to realize that someone like myself has dedicated 28 years of my life to this trade and have put the time in to learn it and build it from the ground up as well as put a few years in prior to starting a business learning the trade.

all these guys only see what lies on the surface and all they see is the fancy trucks and the equipment and the crews and they believe that is all there is to it.
but when it is all said and done within a year or two they are having a fire sale selling everything they got for less then half of what they paid to guys like me to avoid the bank coming in and taking it away.

my point is you have the right idea in starting out small and keeping it simple but at the same time don't phsych yourself out in the proccess.
in my opinion there are only two ways you can get in over your head, spending money before you make it and doing jobs that you have no clue how to do.
as long as you don't do either you will be allright and if you allready own a peice of equipment don't be afraid to take advantage of it.

as far as finding good help, don't feel bad it is the same everywhere and it will take you some time to iron that out and regardless of what state you live in those troubles are all the same.
Reply With Quote
 
» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Pressure Washing Like a...
TNTurf
08-01-2014 11:47 PM
Yesterday 11:51 PM
by TNTurf
5 575
What parts do you carry...
Just for Cuts
10-17-2014 09:08 AM
Yesterday 09:51 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
15 492
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
03-22-2014 09:12 AM
Yesterday 09:32 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
154 11,086
Cheapskate Landlord...
Mr. Mow
Yesterday 06:33 AM
Yesterday 08:44 PM
by biglee
6 125
Jungle to Beautiful
stevef1201
10-17-2014 09:54 AM
Yesterday 08:39 PM
by biglee
8 306
Have you ever had to...
SouthernRootsLawnCare
07-26-2014 02:41 PM
Yesterday 08:34 PM
by biglee
10 1,656
Sunny Beach Tennis...
SGL1
10-19-2014 11:24 PM
Yesterday 07:13 PM
by SGL1
2 101
Hello, from TEXAS
sanchez5
10-17-2014 09:56 PM
Yesterday 06:15 PM
by Steve
3 227
Look out Bob Villa -...
Mr Dave
09-30-2014 10:06 AM
Yesterday 05:42 PM
by SGL1
7 1,189
how to fi d commercial...
mchampion319
10-19-2014 09:50 PM
Yesterday 04:41 PM
by Steve
1 100
Hello From Tennessee
mrmann901
10-17-2014 10:02 PM
Yesterday 04:24 PM
by Steve
1 184
questions on order to...
jack2048
10-13-2014 11:15 AM
Yesterday 03:27 PM
by Mr. Mow
15 609
Organic Lawn Care...
NHray
10-17-2014 06:05 PM
Yesterday 02:22 PM
by Steve
1 220
This sucks...
Matther777
09-18-2014 04:56 PM
Yesterday 02:14 PM
by Steve
14 2,059
Cement mixer
KevinsLawns
10-15-2014 08:03 PM
Yesterday 02:11 PM
by Steve
7 354
Hello ! New guy Rob here
RWorthley1
10-17-2014 04:05 PM
Yesterday 02:09 PM
by Steve
1 198
first year update
cmdlawncare
08-12-2014 05:41 PM
Yesterday 02:07 PM
by Steve
3 1,174
Pda
stevef1201
10-18-2014 02:05 PM
10-19-2014 11:27 PM
by SGL1
2 179
Snow Blowing
gwilson98
10-12-2014 02:21 PM
10-17-2014 02:51 PM
by Steve
6 541
Spreading Weeds?
WesleySnips
07-27-2014 09:46 PM
10-17-2014 07:49 AM
by SGL1
6 843
Grasswhoopins.com Anyone...
GRASS WHOOPINS
06-21-2011 11:38 PM
10-16-2014 01:30 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
42 9,198
I Want to buy old...
ExtremeLawncareServices
10-10-2014 10:04 PM
10-15-2014 09:12 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
6 584
Say Hello !!!
Steve
03-19-2007 11:18 AM
10-15-2014 06:43 PM
by NHray
1,190 339,857
Workmans compensation...
CDLAWNCARE
10-15-2014 08:05 AM
10-15-2014 02:57 PM
by Steve
2 327
Do you find weed eating...
chuck2s
10-15-2014 02:10 PM
10-15-2014 02:10 PM
by chuck2s
0 295
Incorporating &...
WesleySnips
10-01-2014 09:39 PM
10-15-2014 01:37 PM
by kslawn
20 1,388
Falling into business
stellarmowing
09-28-2014 04:35 PM
10-15-2014 05:57 AM
by ringahding1
8 1,405
Apartment Complex and...
lxarth
06-22-2011 01:10 PM
10-14-2014 06:25 PM
by jrs.landscaping
42 9,488
I LOVE hedge trimming
stevef1201
10-13-2014 09:05 AM
10-14-2014 01:06 PM
by Steve
5 428
Help with seeder...
ExtremeLawncareServices
10-09-2014 07:39 AM
10-13-2014 08:09 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
5 589
The Market watch
WesleySnips
10-12-2014 08:47 PM
10-13-2014 05:40 PM
by SGL1
3 432
Help pricing a large...
Bradcook21
10-07-2014 06:49 AM
10-13-2014 02:00 PM
by Steve
7 780
leaf removal
Double J LLC
10-03-2014 04:24 PM
10-13-2014 06:46 AM
by Billy Goat
19 1,407
Acerage Rake
acrajchel
04-23-2014 07:23 PM
10-12-2014 10:53 PM
by SGL1
2 746
John Deere z235 Deck
WesleySnips
09-29-2014 06:02 PM
10-12-2014 06:20 PM
by kslawn
25 1,548
Credit card contract
SGL1
10-06-2014 05:31 PM
10-12-2014 03:40 PM
by SGL1
18 971
Truck craft dump bed...
ExtremeLawncareServices
10-04-2014 08:41 PM
10-10-2014 11:35 AM
by Steve
7 869
First Time River Rock...
berryjam
10-09-2014 06:09 PM
10-10-2014 11:08 AM
by Steve
2 525
West cost lawn prices
SGlawncare
10-09-2014 09:51 PM
10-10-2014 11:03 AM
by Steve
1 514
Question?what should I...
dalvan0
09-24-2014 11:10 PM
10-09-2014 05:58 PM
by kslawn
28 2,040
Mowing the hills
EyeCatchersNow
07-08-2014 12:22 PM
10-09-2014 04:19 PM
by Just for Cuts
25 2,898
snowplowing
jshak40
09-01-2014 07:20 AM
10-09-2014 02:21 PM
by Steve
25 3,546
Changing Scag Freedom Z...
maggiedavidson
10-06-2014 12:24 PM
10-08-2014 06:34 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
7 756
The most dangerous part...
Steve
10-06-2014 02:45 PM
10-07-2014 04:18 PM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
3 735
Good Mower
jack2048
10-04-2014 05:34 PM
10-07-2014 01:05 PM
by Steve
7 823
Mulching fad killing...
Tree geek
10-06-2014 08:37 PM
10-06-2014 08:37 PM
by Tree geek
0 641
Help a brother...
tbtigers03
09-28-2014 11:41 AM
10-06-2014 02:53 PM
by Steve
11 1,364
Update on LawnsAway and...
Ian Lovejoy
09-28-2014 10:24 AM
10-06-2014 01:30 PM
by Steve
4 1,231
A GREAT Story
stevef1201
10-02-2014 10:33 AM
10-06-2014 12:50 PM
by Steve
6 1,036
Kohler command carb...
ExtremeLawncareServices
09-21-2014 03:09 PM
10-03-2014 07:12 PM
by kslawn
27 2,144
Read more about these lawn care business marketing categories.
General Business:
GopherHaul, Podcast
How to Estimate - Services To Offer:
Aeration, Apartment / Condo, bed edging, Color Change Plantings, Dethatching, Edging, Fall Leaf Cleanups, Foreclosed Homes, Gutter Cleaning, Hardscaping, Hedge Trimming, Home Safety Inspection, Irrigation, Landscape Project, Lawn Mower Repair, Mowing, Mulch Jobs, Outdoor decoration, Parking Lot Cleanups, Pet Waste Removal, Pressure Washing, Property Management, Snow plowing, Stump Grinding, Tree Removal
How to Estimate Jobs:
Lawn Care Business:
Barter, Bikini Lawn Care, Business Failure, Business loan, Business Plan, Debt, Debt Collection, Estimate or Proposal Form, Franchise, Fuel surcharge, How to sell, Insurance, Job Tracking, Lawn Care Contract, Lawn Care Customer Survey, Lawn Care Uniform, Lawn Care Videos, Operational Costs, Overhead Costs, Prepay, Pricing, Start up, Tiger Time Lawn Care,
Lawn Care Business Books:
Lawn Care Customers:
Buying customers, Commercial Customers, Customer Retention, How to get, Residential Customers
Lawn Care Employees:
1 Man Lawn Crew, Bonus Pay, training, Your First Employee
lawn care equipment:
bed edger, Lawn Care Truck, Leaf Sweeper, Mower, New Arrival, Trailer, UltraVac
Lawn Care Marketing:
Billboard, Brochure, Business Card, Community Projects To Promote Your Business, Coupons, Cross Promotion / Synergy, Direct Mail, Door hanger, door to door, Free Giveaway Contest, Free Lawn Care Flyer Template, Gift or Discount Cards, home show, Internet, Lawn Care Business Sales Letter, Lawn Care Logo, Lawn Care Marketing, Lawn Care Truck & Trailer Signs, Lawn Care Website, Lawn Signs, Magazine Ad, Magnets, Mailing list, Marketing on Craigslist.com, Newspaper Ads, Parade, Postcards, publicity stunt, Referrals, Review My Lawn Care Marketing Material, t-shirt, Welcoming Kit, Word Of Mouth
Seasonal Promotion Ideas:
4th of July, Armed Forces Day, Christmas, Election Day, Fall, Halloween, Memorial Day, Spring, Summer, Valentine's Day, Veteran's Day, Winter:
Software:
Estimation Software, Landscaper Software, Landscaping Business Software, Landscaping Estimate Software, Landscaping Software, Lawn Care Business Software, Lawn Care Estimating Software, Lawn Care Software, Mowing Software
Uncategorized:
Video:
Website:
Search Engine Optimization
» Lawn Care Business Discussion Categories
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:10 AM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:10 AM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy