Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum

» Welcome to the Gopher Lawn Care Business Forum
GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum

GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum (http://www.gopherforum.com/forum-index.php)
-   Starting a lawn care business. (http://www.gopherforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=32)
-   -   1st helper expectations (http://www.gopherforum.com/showthread.php?t=6581)

Larry's Lawns 01-25-2008 07:22 AM

What I find most on mind during the offseason is growth and my 1st hire. I can keep guessing wildly, or ask the forum and maybe get some experienced opinions.

Anybody have good advice on how to find the right guy and then keep him??
In trying to look forward to this, I keep forseeing a conflict between keeping good help (if lucky enough to find) with enough consistant hours to stay, and the ineviteble 'too wet to mow' periods. *Putting myself into those shoes, I don't think I would be to excited about an 'I'll call you when I need you' income even if it has high potential to be more consistant later.

Your experiences and advice are appreciated.

Larry Puckette
Larry's Lawns
Seguin Texas

Little's 01-25-2008 12:50 PM

I just happened to find a guy that is the hardest worker I have ever seen. I found him without even looking. I parked by a "labor Ready" agency and was walking to the business next door to it when he approached me and told me he was willing to work hard. He handed me his phone number and address. I didnt think much of it at the time since I wasnt needing help at that time. It was about 2 months later when I called him to help me.
He is 46 years old and does twice the work of a 20 year old and never complains about anything. He is ALWAYS willing to work, and has never turned down any offer to work.
He has told me several times that he will help me finish jobs without pay, just so he doesnt have to sit at home and be bored! I know it sounds too good to be true, but he has been helping me for almost 2 years now, and I am not looking forward to the day when I have to find someone else to help me. I pay him $15 to $20 an hour where I would pay most others maybe $10.
I guess I have been lucky.

F3Nelson 02-09-2008 12:11 PM

Its my experience that employees SUCK, I dont care how well you treat them or pay them.


That is all

ABurlison 02-09-2008 03:33 PM

I'm fortunate to have a Brother in College, he only goes until around noon or so, so he's available to help when I need him, and he likes the sporatic cash. My suggestion would be to find someone like this, either a relative or a family friend who has someone younger who just needs some sporatic cash every week.

Steve 02-09-2008 07:17 PM

Do you feel he will help you bridge that gap between needing only part time help to a full time employee?

Can you for see at what point you would need to hire someone to help you full time?

ABurlison 02-09-2008 07:36 PM

You know this is really a tough situation, because I'm like the rest of the guys, I wouldn't trust anyone else to operate my business but myself or my brother, so to hire someone I don't know, I would be really be skeptical, cause afterall who can perform the work better than myself. The other scenario would be hiring someone as a worker along side myself, that I train to do the job and do it well, and if I can justify the $10/ hour which is $400 per week at 40 hours a week, than I would go for it, but the labor costs really needs to justify hiring this second worker, and yeah you'll have to keep them busy or they will go elsewhere, so I could try and keep them working as many hours I could to 40 hours a week.

Steve 02-09-2008 07:38 PM

Ultimately do you think it is better to just be a single owner operator and that's it? Sometimes calling in extra help once in a while? Is it just too much of a pain to have to hire on employees?

ABurlison 02-09-2008 07:52 PM

Although I think we all want to become large enough to hire on crews to work for us, I've been called quite a bit lately to bid on apartment complexes and commercial properties where all they do is complain about the currect company, their crew does this and their crew does that and they point out all the things the hired help does or doesn't do, and they ask me do you provide personal service? And I do because I'm the owner/operator and I feel more and more businesses and multi unit complexes are looking for that. Not only that, but they want people who speak english, no offense to minorities, they are for the most part good workers, but if the property managers and such have problems, they should be able to communicate with the workers and not have to call the owner every time. I keep hearing about this more and more, and people are getting tired of it.

All Aspects Landscaping 02-09-2008 08:18 PM

This is a double edge sword guys... you work solo... you are limited to how much money you can make... hire guys and become a factory that loses 25% of jobs each year right? Best thing I think to do is grow slow... find that guy.. train him right and give him a truck after 1 year... in the meantime, you have to market to get more work for next year... It takes planning to grow... You have to learn how to manage people... whether you are cutting grass or hardscaping, you need to manage your men... Put policies and procedures in place that you yourself follow... set an example... hold your men accountable for things....know whats going on upstairs... We do a friday meeting everyweek... 10 mins, pick a subject and discuss it... offer a challenge for your guys and the winner wins $50.00... Keep guys motivated... and happy...know whats going on with them, but let them know you are the boss.... dont be afraid to be honest with the guys... We have 8 full time guys last year and next year it will be 12... I know all their names, birthdays, and marital status... but when I pull up all I see is arses and elbows...I command respect.... or else they get fired...

Steve 02-09-2008 08:23 PM

James,

Quote:

Originally Posted by [b
Quote[/b] ]offer a challenge for your guys and the winner wins $50.00..

What kind of challenges would you recommend?


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:48 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
New Trailer
bobwill2009
Yesterday 12:46 PM
Today 01:34 PM
by B&B Lawn Services
4 90
Pushy customers
christopherhicks82
04-22-2014 08:22 PM
Today 01:04 PM
by Dan Tanner
8 177
Back for this year
xandrew245x
02-21-2014 04:30 PM
Today 12:46 PM
by xandrew245x
20 1,031
Truck, Trailer,...
hawthornelawncare
12-23-2011 12:01 AM
Today 12:39 PM
by Steve
80 25,369
Pond...
xandrew245x
04-22-2014 03:29 PM
Today 12:23 PM
by Steve
5 117
Mangwi Landscaping
bondservojc13
Yesterday 09:56 PM
Today 12:22 PM
by Steve
2 68
Acerage Rake
acrajchel
Yesterday 07:23 PM
Today 12:17 PM
by Steve
1 44
2.5 acre mowing
xandrew245x
04-18-2014 06:55 AM
Today 12:05 PM
by Steve
16 364
Advertising On...
JacobsLawnMowing
03-17-2014 03:21 PM
Today 11:58 AM
by Steve
14 899
In a bit situation need...
googus
04-22-2014 08:01 AM
Yesterday 10:03 PM
by googus
9 179
Any greenhouse operators...
GoGreenerKS
04-15-2014 11:21 AM
Yesterday 12:37 PM
by Steve
7 221
The $20 Mow Job
Dan Tanner
04-21-2014 07:24 PM
Yesterday 12:06 PM
by Steve
5 200
quickbooks users
CDLAWNCARE
04-20-2014 09:03 AM
Yesterday 06:48 AM
by CDLAWNCARE
4 180
Looking for advice on a...
Tekeda1
04-13-2014 09:53 AM
04-22-2014 07:55 PM
by Just for Cuts
23 586
About D@## Time!
TamMik
04-02-2014 08:10 AM
04-22-2014 05:14 PM
by BelleCityLawn1
19 880
What Was Your Setup When...
superrman77
02-11-2014 10:53 AM
04-22-2014 12:29 AM
by Tony317
22 1,728
Sulky and Turf Tracer
acrajchel
04-07-2014 01:44 PM
04-22-2014 12:07 AM
by Tony317
9 451
danny 2
danny2
04-19-2014 10:19 PM
04-21-2014 12:25 PM
by Steve
3 140
this mower is driving me...
boog
04-17-2014 12:07 PM
04-21-2014 12:10 PM
by kslawn
13 367
What Fertilizer to Use?
acrajchel
04-07-2014 01:56 PM
04-21-2014 12:02 PM
by kslawn
20 614
I Got Taken...,
Dan Tanner
04-19-2014 06:26 AM
04-21-2014 11:49 AM
by Steve
4 233
new to this forum!
mower13126
04-18-2014 07:37 PM
04-21-2014 11:39 AM
by Steve
4 152
REO calling
Dan Tanner
04-16-2014 05:03 PM
04-21-2014 11:33 AM
by Steve
12 351
employee pay
4 seasons maintenance
04-10-2011 09:34 PM
04-20-2014 04:40 PM
by Dan Tanner
20 6,893
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
03-22-2014 09:12 AM
04-20-2014 11:13 AM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
32 1,218
Lawn Renovation
stevef1201
04-11-2014 12:00 PM
04-20-2014 11:11 AM
by kslawn
10 372
Customers droping like...
goodtimez
04-18-2014 09:53 AM
04-19-2014 08:09 AM
by CDLAWNCARE
7 237
Best Bulk Mulch delivery...
Steven Virgadamo
04-18-2014 09:52 AM
04-18-2014 05:34 PM
by Steve
2 106
Steve Virgadamo,...
Steven Virgadamo
04-18-2014 09:49 AM
04-18-2014 05:08 PM
by Steve
2 91
Instagram
Gerardo_Landscape
04-16-2014 11:28 AM
04-18-2014 04:51 PM
by Steve
3 191
Help with weed liability!
Prolawnofchatt
04-15-2014 09:10 AM
04-18-2014 04:47 PM
by Steve
5 255
Nationwide lawn care...
Billy Goat
04-15-2014 05:21 PM
04-18-2014 04:39 PM
by Steve
9 268
Truck Signage
Dan Tanner
04-16-2014 11:00 PM
04-18-2014 04:04 PM
by stevef1201
10 293
leaf removal
tlf59263
04-15-2014 10:00 PM
04-18-2014 03:59 PM
by stevef1201
6 244
Pay per click advertising
roostertail
02-12-2014 07:26 PM
04-17-2014 07:11 PM
by yardrate
10 641
Accepting credit cards,...
Darksteel
03-17-2014 08:01 PM
04-16-2014 01:02 PM
by jymie
15 810
Trimec
acrajchel
04-15-2014 08:24 PM
04-16-2014 11:10 AM
by Steve
3 151
Gopher Forum Discount!
BlackRain75
04-12-2014 10:44 PM
04-16-2014 10:50 AM
by Steve
9 349
hello
NFrailey
04-15-2014 01:39 PM
04-16-2014 10:48 AM
by Steve
1 137
Pricing a Mulch Job
dmcalpi
04-07-2014 02:16 PM
04-16-2014 09:40 AM
by jymie
21 797
google earth
CDLAWNCARE
04-12-2014 03:24 PM
04-16-2014 09:36 AM
by jymie
8 299
There has to be an...
CDLAWNCARE
04-14-2014 12:59 PM
04-15-2014 04:06 PM
by Dan Tanner
6 239
First Day Back!
BelleCityLawn1
04-09-2014 09:13 PM
04-15-2014 11:16 AM
by Steve
11 372
Mow America
stevegredler
04-13-2014 01:02 PM
04-14-2014 09:53 PM
by kslawn
5 280
Power Broom
acrajchel
04-14-2014 07:46 AM
04-14-2014 12:47 PM
by CDLAWNCARE
2 156
Say Hello !!!
Steve
03-19-2007 11:18 AM
04-14-2014 11:34 AM
by Steve
1,176 286,984
Equipment reviews
Greg'slawnandlandscape
04-09-2014 07:17 AM
04-14-2014 11:27 AM
by Greg'slawnandlandscape
13 536
Aerating Prices?
Dan Tanner
04-08-2014 03:16 PM
04-14-2014 10:31 AM
by Steve
13 547
Estimating help
acrajchel
04-11-2014 06:06 PM
04-14-2014 10:20 AM
by Steve
3 247
Need help bidding church...
GreenRidge Lawn&Landscape
04-07-2014 08:01 PM
04-14-2014 09:49 AM
by Steve
12 503
Read more about these lawn care business marketing categories.
General Business:
GopherHaul, Podcast
How to Estimate - Services To Offer:
Aeration, Apartment / Condo, bed edging, Color Change Plantings, Dethatching, Edging, Fall Leaf Cleanups, Foreclosed Homes, Gutter Cleaning, Hardscaping, Hedge Trimming, Home Safety Inspection, Irrigation, Landscape Project, Lawn Mower Repair, Mowing, Mulch Jobs, Outdoor decoration, Parking Lot Cleanups, Pet Waste Removal, Pressure Washing, Property Management, Snow plowing, Stump Grinding, Tree Removal
How to Estimate Jobs:
Lawn Care Business:
Barter, Bikini Lawn Care, Business Failure, Business loan, Business Plan, Debt, Debt Collection, Estimate or Proposal Form, Franchise, Fuel surcharge, How to sell, Insurance, Job Tracking, Lawn Care Contract, Lawn Care Customer Survey, Lawn Care Uniform, Lawn Care Videos, Operational Costs, Overhead Costs, Prepay, Pricing, Start up, Tiger Time Lawn Care,
Lawn Care Business Books:
Lawn Care Customers:
Buying customers, Commercial Customers, Customer Retention, How to get, Residential Customers
Lawn Care Employees:
1 Man Lawn Crew, Bonus Pay, training, Your First Employee
lawn care equipment:
bed edger, Lawn Care Truck, Leaf Sweeper, Mower, New Arrival, Trailer, UltraVac
Lawn Care Marketing:
Billboard, Brochure, Business Card, Community Projects To Promote Your Business, Coupons, Cross Promotion / Synergy, Direct Mail, Door hanger, door to door, Free Giveaway Contest, Free Lawn Care Flyer Template, Gift or Discount Cards, home show, Internet, Lawn Care Business Sales Letter, Lawn Care Logo, Lawn Care Marketing, Lawn Care Truck & Trailer Signs, Lawn Care Website, Lawn Signs, Magazine Ad, Magnets, Mailing list, Marketing on Craigslist.com, Newspaper Ads, Parade, Postcards, publicity stunt, Referrals, Review My Lawn Care Marketing Material, t-shirt, Welcoming Kit, Word Of Mouth
Seasonal Promotion Ideas:
4th of July, Armed Forces Day, Christmas, Election Day, Fall, Halloween, Memorial Day, Spring, Summer, Valentine's Day, Veteran's Day, Winter:
Software:
Estimation Software, Landscaper Software, Landscaping Business Software, Landscaping Estimate Software, Landscaping Software, Lawn Care Business Software, Lawn Care Estimating Software, Lawn Care Software, Mowing Software
Uncategorized:
Video:
Website:
Search Engine Optimization
» Lawn Care Business Discussion Categories
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:48 PM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:48 PM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy