Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum

» Welcome to the Gopher Lawn Care Business Forum
GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum

GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum (http://www.gopherforum.com/forum-index.php)
-   Truck, Trailer, and Outdoor Power Equipment Discussion, Repairs. (http://www.gopherforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=31)
-   -   Truck Frame rust (http://www.gopherforum.com/showthread.php?t=17824)

SECTLANDSCAPING 12-14-2012 09:45 PM

Truck Frame rust
 
I was wondering what works for frame rust. I see all kind of sprays but that seems like a touch up and more preventive.

Would the best way to remove rust be a wire brush, belt sander, or sandblast?

I would think any kind of metal grinder would take more then rust off and could cause problems.

I realize this is a bigger problem in the northeast then anywhere else but its still a major issue. The trucks around here are rotting out in as fast as 8 years. I just looked at a 05 with 53k on it and the frame looked like my 88 dump truck.

Cashin H&P 12-14-2012 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SECTLANDSCAPING (Post 119664)
I was wondering what works for frame rust. I see all kind of sprays but that seems like a touch up and more preventive.

Would the best way to remove rust be a wire brush, belt sander, or sandblast?

I would think any kind of metal grinder would take more then rust off and could cause problems.

I realize this is a bigger problem in the northeast then anywhere else but its still a major issue. The trucks around here are rotting out in as fast as 8 years. I just looked at a 05 with 53k on it and the frame looked like my 88 dump truck.

sandblast then coat with a rust converter.

bruces 12-14-2012 10:38 PM

if your looking to get more frame rust ,just cover your truck with salt and spray it with warm water .If your looking to get rid of the rust ,depending on how bad it is ,any of the methods you asked about can be used .I would definately paint the frame after cleaning ,probably with something like por 15 ,then use a non-hardening undercoat .

SECTLANDSCAPING 12-15-2012 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bruces (Post 119666)
if your looking to get more frame rust ,just cover your truck with salt and spray it with warm water .If your looking to get rid of the rust ,depending on how bad it is ,any of the methods you asked about can be used .I would definately paint the frame after cleaning ,probably with something like por 15 ,then use a non-hardening undercoat .

I hear good thing about por but I'm saying once it gets bad isnt kinda futile. If I ever bought a new truck I would factory undercoat it then reapply every few years. It seems like people dont do a damn thing till it rots.

I looked at about a dozen trucks and my 2000 with 274k is in better shape. The guy that owned it before me used diesel and old motor oil on the frame. Its a shame most arent even plow trucks. All my trucks carry sanders and salt in the bed.

I'm partially pointing out what others do and deciding how to clean up my 02 at the same time.

SECTLANDSCAPING 12-15-2012 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cashin home and property (Post 119665)
sandblast then coat with a rust converter.

To properly sandblast you would have to pull the frame. It would almost be easier to just replace it if your going to do all that. You could probably do a pretty thorough job by pulling the bed and thats only a few bolts.

willshome 12-15-2012 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SECTLANDSCAPING (Post 119667)
undercoat it then reapply every few years.

EVERY year EVERY year Every year

no one ever says "man I wish I did not spend $25 a year on spray" OR "I have to much paint on my frame."

stevef1201 12-15-2012 08:04 AM

Now I realize that you are probably not talking about going to this extreme but. I worked with a guy down here who was restoring his 1965 ford 1/2 ton. We took everything apart, the body, the front end, the rear axle, the springs, the wiring harness etc. EVERYTHING. Then blasted with, depending on what was needed, sand, crushed walnuts, soda, even dry ice. He took the frame somewhere and it dip galvanized, then we started repainting and re assembling. Now we only worked on it occasionally, and when he could find the original parts (remember this was a restoration) It took about 2 years.

I would say if the rust is bad (cancer like) your screwed. However if it is just like surface rust, maybe a little metal gone then sand blasting, using a rest converted and re-undercoating should work.

And yes I agree with the pressure wash the under side every spring, inspect and reapply undercoating. It may be a pain in the butt, however spending a weekend in April doing that is going to be a lot less of a pain than shelling out thousands of dollars every few years for a new truck.

Lopes Lawn Care 12-15-2012 08:45 AM

My father has done the diesel/motor oil mixture on all his cars/trucks. Over the years I've definitely seen how much it actually helps prevent rust. The truck I use was originally his, which he bought from an auction years before. It's a 95 ford f150 straight six and has just now started showing signs of rust. Not on the frame so much as rot on the typical rear fenders and cab.

I've been looking at trucks too and your right Sect, over here these frames are all shot. Most of the trucks I've looked at look like they could just fall apart driving them home.

I will continue doing the oil/fuel mix cause it takes no time. It costs peanuts. I just use old motor oil and an old big paint brush. I would recommend obviously not doing it on an area that you don't want oil drips on or putting a tarp down and driving your truck onto it before applying. I also avoid the exhaust and wait for a bit before starting the truck up.

SECTLANDSCAPING 12-15-2012 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lopes Lawn Care (Post 119674)
My father has done the diesel/motor oil mixture on all his cars/trucks. Over the years I've definitely seen how much it actually helps prevent rust. The truck I use was originally his, which he bought from an auction years before. It's a 95 ford f150 straight six and has just now started showing signs of rust. Not on the frame so much as rot on the typical rear fenders and cab.

On my completely rotted dump truck there was a small oil leak on the driver side. It was the only part of the truck not rusted. I mean holes in the floor, mason dump looked like it was machine gunned, this truck was so bad that even though it ran fine I buried it in a shallow grave. I kept thinking one day someone is going to get hurt.

I hear you dont have to prep the frame for POR 15. If thats the case its worth it for the labor savings alone.

stevef1201, that would be the correct way to do it. I hear shops charge around 7k for a frame swap. You think that kinda money people would think of maintenance but I guess they think I wont own it in 5 years who cares.

On a different but completely related subject. I was getting gas for my 02 f250 and I noticed gas leaking on the ground. I take a peek and the filler neck was rotted. I had no tools and was forced to break off the rusted filler with my hand to fill up. I called around and the only place to get the part is ebay and the junk yard.

stevef1201 12-16-2012 10:00 AM

SECTLAND**-I cannot believe the number of people that I know who think that washing the underside of the truck/car is ridiculous. My dad had a Ford F259 4x4 that he put over a million miles on and he washed the underside every week, summer and winter, The road salts will absolutely destroy a vehicle. Sure its a pain in the *** to get out the sprayer and wash when its freezing but the proof is in the pudding.

It like not washing the mower at the end of day, and wonder why the deck is rusted out before the end of the season.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:04 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Just Quit?
ringahding1
Today 06:23 AM
Today 03:13 PM
by Steve
4 74
French gardener owner's...
didgreen
Today 09:10 AM
Today 03:10 PM
by Steve
1 33
Government contracts
avetslawncare
11-15-2014 08:50 AM
Today 03:00 PM
by Steve
10 854
Thanks for all the posts
WheatGrass
Today 06:38 AM
Today 02:57 PM
by Steve
1 34
hows it going.
uppercut
Today 05:01 AM
Today 02:54 PM
by Steve
2 45
whats this briggs?
uppercut
Today 12:40 AM
Today 02:49 PM
by Steve
1 40
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
01-11-2015 11:41 AM
Today 02:46 PM
by Steve
13 723
viking cyclon.
uppercut
Yesterday 09:12 PM
Today 02:43 PM
by Steve
1 39
Crunch time 2015!
Chilehead
Yesterday 08:57 PM
Today 02:42 PM
by Steve
1 42
Landscapers from hell!!
Chilehead
Yesterday 03:55 PM
Today 02:37 PM
by Steve
1 64
Say Hello !!!
Steve
03-19-2007 12:18 PM
Today 02:36 PM
by Hard-Body lawn & garden
1,202 363,880
Lawn Mowing -...
ringahding1
Today 07:05 AM
Today 07:05 AM
by ringahding1
0 23
adding something new...
veteranslawncaresystems
01-28-2015 12:13 AM
Today 06:33 AM
by ringahding1
5 157
TaskEasy & Plowz & Mowz...
jrwalker333
01-25-2015 01:02 PM
Yesterday 08:14 PM
by lxarth
8 251
Contact last years...
googus
01-28-2015 09:13 AM
Yesterday 02:29 PM
by Steve
6 187
Looking for advice on...
berryjam
01-21-2015 07:37 PM
Yesterday 02:21 PM
by Steve
15 463
New to the forum
LCRobert
01-26-2015 10:21 PM
Yesterday 09:11 AM
by ringahding1
7 210
What happened to Better...
Steve
01-27-2014 04:07 PM
01-28-2015 12:26 PM
by Steve
21 3,189
Lawn care truck
Steve
10-10-2009 03:40 AM
01-28-2015 12:23 PM
by Steve
44 16,074
Bidding to get other work
Rodriguez11
07-21-2011 11:52 PM
01-28-2015 12:08 PM
by Steve
29 9,460
How many contracts...
5StarLawnscaping
01-12-2015 03:51 PM
01-28-2015 11:04 AM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
10 597
"Part Timers", "Low...
doug1980
06-10-2009 12:55 PM
01-27-2015 09:01 PM
by jrs.landscaping
43 10,343
Is anyone doing mosquito...
BWild
01-27-2015 12:30 PM
01-27-2015 07:24 PM
by avetslawncare
4 135
New to group
ron@alpine
01-27-2015 08:45 AM
01-27-2015 01:29 PM
by Steve
1 103
please Help with none...
Lawnboyman1170
01-09-2015 09:46 AM
01-27-2015 01:27 PM
by Steve
13 711
does this sound good or...
Bradcook21
01-22-2015 09:24 AM
01-27-2015 07:42 AM
by ringahding1
9 339
second year advise
cmdlawncare
01-23-2015 06:22 PM
01-27-2015 07:31 AM
by ringahding1
6 291
need advise
rawssrob
02-23-2010 02:45 PM
01-23-2015 06:40 PM
by cmdlawncare
7 2,619
New to forum
ROB N
01-23-2015 08:35 AM
01-23-2015 01:53 PM
by Steve
1 170
Extending the life of...
rmccutchan
01-17-2015 12:37 AM
01-23-2015 01:43 PM
by Steve
8 420
osceola lawn service
jasa@wildblue.net
01-22-2015 03:23 PM
01-23-2015 01:38 PM
by Steve
1 179
Tax Question
Wolf4dk
01-20-2015 01:11 AM
01-22-2015 02:28 PM
by Steve
4 318
Billy Goat Vac
Mr. Mow
01-19-2015 07:42 AM
01-22-2015 02:18 PM
by Steve
6 308
Property Pricing
GVL
01-19-2015 02:46 PM
01-21-2015 02:18 PM
by Steve
5 365
Landscapers Source For...
breadcrumb
01-16-2015 02:44 PM
01-21-2015 05:55 AM
by breadcrumb
14 531
Hoa advice
Bradcook21
01-16-2015 09:36 PM
01-20-2015 04:30 PM
by Steve
4 347
My Invention
biglee
01-11-2015 07:51 PM
01-20-2015 10:16 AM
by biglee
16 684
How to beat the pre pay...
stansg1fresh
01-13-2015 04:33 PM
01-19-2015 03:38 PM
by ringahding1
3 420
Hello from Md
homey
12-17-2014 06:55 PM
01-19-2015 01:37 PM
by Steve
12 1,218
Hi from Illinois
burtle
01-02-2015 09:46 PM
01-19-2015 01:22 PM
by Steve
3 582
Hello from SW FL!!
5StarLawnscaping
12-05-2014 02:35 PM
01-19-2015 01:20 PM
by Steve
14 1,526
Lost my @#$ blower
stevef1201
01-11-2015 08:31 AM
01-17-2015 02:21 PM
by lxarth
2 445
Another Illinoisan.....
barhopper
01-11-2015 05:38 PM
01-16-2015 04:29 PM
by Steve
10 504
marketing with pizza...
apmAkron
01-15-2015 09:57 AM
01-15-2015 06:29 PM
by Steve
4 322
CRM and Quickbooks?
5StarLawnscaping
01-15-2015 08:06 AM
01-15-2015 08:06 AM
by 5StarLawnscaping
0 252
New Member, Indiana Iraq...
Timbo
07-14-2011 09:44 AM
01-14-2015 06:14 PM
by Steve
10 3,850
check this box truck out!
BLAZIER-1991
01-07-2015 07:40 PM
01-13-2015 03:06 PM
by biglee
8 707
My community only ad...
googus
01-12-2015 09:55 AM
01-13-2015 02:44 PM
by Steve
5 396
12 Years in Business!
Chilehead
10-23-2014 09:07 AM
01-13-2015 09:37 AM
by Chilehead
18 1,893
use a small business...
BLAZIER-1991
12-25-2014 12:21 AM
01-12-2015 06:32 PM
by BLAZIER-1991
30 1,654
Read more about these lawn care business marketing categories.
General Business:
GopherHaul, Podcast
How to Estimate - Services To Offer:
Aeration, Apartment / Condo, bed edging, Color Change Plantings, Dethatching, Edging, Fall Leaf Cleanups, Foreclosed Homes, Gutter Cleaning, Hardscaping, Hedge Trimming, Home Safety Inspection, Irrigation, Landscape Project, Lawn Mower Repair, Mowing, Mulch Jobs, Outdoor decoration, Parking Lot Cleanups, Pet Waste Removal, Pressure Washing, Property Management, Snow plowing, Stump Grinding, Tree Removal
How to Estimate Jobs:
Lawn Care Business:
Barter, Bikini Lawn Care, Business Failure, Business loan, Business Plan, Debt, Debt Collection, Estimate or Proposal Form, Franchise, Fuel surcharge, How to sell, Insurance, Job Tracking, Lawn Care Contract, Lawn Care Customer Survey, Lawn Care Uniform, Lawn Care Videos, Operational Costs, Overhead Costs, Prepay, Pricing, Start up, Tiger Time Lawn Care,
Lawn Care Business Books:
Lawn Care Customers:
Buying customers, Commercial Customers, Customer Retention, How to get, Residential Customers
Lawn Care Employees:
1 Man Lawn Crew, Bonus Pay, training, Your First Employee
lawn care equipment:
bed edger, Lawn Care Truck, Leaf Sweeper, Mower, New Arrival, Trailer, UltraVac
Lawn Care Marketing:
Billboard, Brochure, Business Card, Community Projects To Promote Your Business, Coupons, Cross Promotion / Synergy, Direct Mail, Door hanger, door to door, Free Giveaway Contest, Free Lawn Care Flyer Template, Gift or Discount Cards, home show, Internet, Lawn Care Business Sales Letter, Lawn Care Logo, Lawn Care Marketing, Lawn Care Truck & Trailer Signs, Lawn Care Website, Lawn Signs, Magazine Ad, Magnets, Mailing list, Marketing on Craigslist.com, Newspaper Ads, Parade, Postcards, publicity stunt, Referrals, Review My Lawn Care Marketing Material, t-shirt, Welcoming Kit, Word Of Mouth
Seasonal Promotion Ideas:
4th of July, Armed Forces Day, Christmas, Election Day, Fall, Halloween, Memorial Day, Spring, Summer, Valentine's Day, Veteran's Day, Winter:
Software:
Estimation Software, Landscaper Software, Landscaping Business Software, Landscaping Estimate Software, Landscaping Software, Lawn Care Business Software, Lawn Care Estimating Software, Lawn Care Software, Mowing Software
Uncategorized:
Video:
Website:
Search Engine Optimization
» Lawn Care Business Discussion Categories
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:04 PM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:04 PM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy