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Hedgemaster 07-19-2011 07:20 PM

4 Cycle vs 2 Cycle String Trimmers - Thoughts?
 
I've been wanting to pick up a cheap string trimmer to have as a backup. I'd like to get a split shaft so I can pick up a few seldom-used, but sometimes needed attachments.
At this point, in order to keep costs down, I'm not looking at commercial grade - just a cheap unit from Home Depot or W-Mart, or dare I say - Crapsman. lol

I saw a 26cc Yard Man Select straight shaft (split) trimmer on clearance at W-mart that is $140.(reg $190) It's a 4 cycle though, and I don't know if there are any "pros" or "cons" when it comes to 4 cycle trimmers.

It uses the same diameter line as I use currently (.095) so that's a plus.
I don't want a two cycle that uses 40:1 mix because I'm not messing around with lugging around another gas can for it, so I was thinking the 4 cycle may be the way to go since most of the homeowner grade stuff seems to be 40:1.


ANY THOUGHTS? I want to make this purchase PRONTO, as I have some limb work I may be doing this coming week and the pole pruner attachment would be very helpful.

Thanks in advance!!!

monoshock 07-19-2011 07:41 PM

I like the 4 cycle trimmers better, no matter the brand. Two pulls when cold and your off and running, one pull after it warmed up. Also the power is down low in the RPM range so you can keep from throwing stuff every where and doing damage. (like around cars in lots) I bought a MTD from Northren Tool for $179 plus tax and realy like it alot. I changed the head, I can't stand bump heads,never used one that work right. Only thing I don't like about it is it doesn't have a hook for a strap, but I made a homemade one that works fine.

Here's the link.
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/too...0474_200440474

Steve 07-19-2011 08:37 PM

Does the 2 cycle vs 4 cycle effect the price much?

monoshock 07-19-2011 08:41 PM

Only if it's a Honda from what I've seen. I picked one of those up to get a feel for it, that thing feel really heavy. But being a Honda would probly last a long time.

Hedgemaster 07-19-2011 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve (Post 93026)
Does the 2 cycle vs 4 cycle effect the price much?

Yes. On the homeowner brands I've noted about $80-$100 more in price for an otherwise identical model.

I don't know if you are paying more for a better unit (mechanically), or if it's a "convenience" thing that people are willing to pay more for. (no mixing)

That was one of the reasons I was looking at this one at W-mart... most run $200 and this one is on clearance for $140.

The Toro powerhead (2 cycle) alone at Home Depot is $120.

I'm not a fan of Ryobi, or I'd pick one of those up for even less.

monoshock 07-19-2011 08:57 PM

That looks just like my MTD with dif decals.Only I bought the curved shaft, think it's the same engine tho. I think you'll like it.

Hedgemaster 07-19-2011 08:59 PM

Heh. I was all excited because I saw a reconditioned Echo PAS 225 at home depot for $125. (reg $180)
I was doing the math and although the attachments are much more expensive than these homeowner add ons for the other trimmer, I figured I may be better off with the Echo and the $55 savings would offset the cost of the Echo pole pruner attachment.

Then I asked about the warranty on reconditioned equipment. LOL! 30 days.
Screw that. Saving $55 isn't worth it when it has essentially no warranty.

I almost went to my dealer to get a new one, but I still need a backpack blower for fall (fast approaching) and that's gonna set me back $500, so that is why I am looking at the homeowner grade trimmer/attachments.
Like I said - I want a backup in case my Stihl should go down, and I'd like the ability to use the attachments... the ones that cost 1/4 of the price of the ones for my Stihl. (plus I can't get an extension pole pruner for my Stihl)

rcksmith 07-19-2011 09:17 PM

I own a Honda 4 cycle and I wouldn't trade it in for anything. It did cost some money but I am true believer that you get what you pay for.
My honda is eight or nine years old now and if I put a picture up of it you would think it was brand new.
As far as maintenance, I change the oil, spark plug and air filter roughly two to three times a year. It runs a good four hours a day most days.

Hedgemaster 07-19-2011 09:27 PM

Do I need to be concerned about running a 4 cycle in odd positions like upside down/facing upwards?

Since I plan on buying a pole pruner to cut limbs, I was wondering if it makes a difference when running them... I'm good with my hands, but not the most mechanically inclined, so that's why I ask. Maybe it's a stupid question, but you don't learn unless you open you mouth and ask.

monoshock 07-20-2011 12:10 AM

I run mine on the side all the time when edging, haven't had any problems. Upside down, not sure, but I don't think it would be a good idea. I think they have a oil pump.


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