Lawn Care Business Forum Lawn Care Business Book Lawn Care Business Blog Lawn Care Software
Home Forum Contract & Flyer Templates Blog Software Videos Podcast Calculators / Estimators Store Mower Review Design It Yourself Lawn Business School

Go Back   GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum

» Welcome to the Gopher Lawn Care Business Forum
GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum

GopherHaul Landscaping & Lawn Care Business Marketing Forum (http://www.gopherforum.com/forum-index.php)
-   General Business Discussions (http://www.gopherforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=11)
-   -   Why do we fail at business? (http://www.gopherforum.com/showthread.php?t=12372)

Steve 08-06-2010 04:27 AM

Why do we fail at business?
 
From your personal experiences and the experiences you have seen with others, what is your view on why so many of us fail at business?

What makes it seem next to impossible for the average person to start a business?

picframer 08-06-2010 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve (Post 75402)
From your personal experiences and the experiences you have seen with others, what is your view on why so many of us fail at business?

What makes it seem next to impossible for the average person to start a business?

There are a lot of reasons, maybe foremost is not everyone is cut out to be an entrepreneur.

- Business Plan does not reflect proper research
- Start up financing was not sufficient
- Marketing skills
- Research of the business, I see this a lot not only here but in this market in general, looking for other service options to keep cash flow going and knowing what your competition is, what they charge etc.
- Receivables
- Equipment issues
- Staff, there is an old saying you will only be as good as the people under you
- Growing too fast, service level drops
- Debt
- Lack of proper insurance, things do go wrong
- Poor sales skills
- Knowing your costs and what to charge

Those are a few things that come to mind.

Chachi 08-06-2010 07:27 AM

pic pretty much summed it up. One thing I get praised on is I have no overhead. Everything is paid off except insurance & ads of course. If I don't have cash I don't buy it. Years down the road I am sure that may change, but for now I live by that.

LawnMoore 08-06-2010 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by picframer (Post 75403)
There are a lot of reasons, maybe foremost is not everyone is cut out to be an entrepreneur.

- Some people lack the drive and people skills required to run there business day to day..

Not to mention, that when your an entreprenuer/business owner you have to either know who or when to hire someone to take on tasks, or know how to complete them yourself.

Like advertising, www/door to door marketing, equipment maintenace, having failure days in the start up or any time, and being prepared to conquer all of that plus more and still hold your head up to give the next man a fair deal and smile about it.

just some thoughts..

Sometimes its inevitable, you know, acts of god can stop anything from happening. ( or put a serious damper on such )

LawnMoore 08-06-2010 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve (Post 75402)
From your personal experiences and the experiences you have seen with others, what is your view on why so many of us fail at business?

What makes it seem next to impossible for the average person to start a business?

Steve, are you having a bad day? (this could go for others as well)

-If so maybe you need to take a little vacation ;) something easy and cheap, maybe a camping trip or hiking, or from the shore fishing trip..

-Maybe you should check into cutting back on business and personal expenses and overhead, untill income picks up.

-If nothing else, business has you feeling down, take a breather! (enjoy some me time) then you can be a little less stressed out and tackle your next day with pride and ambition.

Steve 08-06-2010 09:14 PM

The thing I was thinking about goes back to almost the beginning of the idea to start a business.

How many people even have an interest in anything that they can even use as a foothold to get a start?

I think about how I hear all the time, 'if I could only start my own business.'

I then follow up with 'what would you like to do?'

And they reply 'I don't know.'

How is it that so many of us just dont know? I bet if you look around you, you will see others that say similar things.

How do you get something started when you have no direction? No interests? And why is it that so many of us seem to have no interest in anything or direction?

Is it simply sucked out of us when all we know is working fulltime as an employee?

Do we lose the dreams as we make the transition from child to adult?

What's your view on this?

LawnMoore 08-06-2010 09:35 PM

Well i actually think, when they say i dont know, its because they really dont know how to do it.

Its not really something a kid growing up under parents who work 40 would know..

Now if you grew up like i did, in atleast 1 family business, maybe you would catch on, and almost 100% sure that your parents would teach you about business!

So maybe its the ones who say that, that werent raised by business orientated folks/family and had no helping direction..

I think we are a breed apart from the rest, as with anything it requires teaching, or money and sometimes both. I was fortunate enough to have that lifestyle growing up, and i would say that might be were i get my drive from. The drive to push the business even under failing conditions, because i know and was taught: "Tough times dont last, but tough people do!"

So now that im grown i know the only way to have the work when i want to and for how much lifestyle only comes from running a business or investing quite a bit of money into sometimes unstable economys.

But like the risk of losing the money in an unstable economy theres a high margin of return on the risk if the cards are played right. Tbh the unstable and broken economys are where the higher profit margins are if you (have the cash reserve) can afford to have the investment tied up untill the economy improves.

ok im kinda getting off subject so ill stop at that.

I think it takes direction..

E/ and also takes a how do i say, it takes lessons learned, like budgeting money, being content, being frugal, and a lot of other trial and error lessons (that you have to learn from) and not keep making the mistakes over and overr again! like lowballing bids, that cannot be done in order to stay in business, i would rather bid a 1-2 our tree job for 400 and not get it than i would bid it for 200 and it turn into a 3 hour job and a cut rope!!

Because like i said, if a rope gets cut or a saw drops from the lanyard sometimes those are inevitable things and have to be taken into consideration for, just like mowing, if i bid a mow at 25 to get the job even though i know its an overgrown heap worth 60! and somehow just somehow we miss a wire in the walkthrough, that could cost 40-100 or more!

So i think also bidding has a lot to do with whether a company will make it or not. If i bid at 400 and dont get a job, its better than bidding 200 and paying help 30 + gas 20 + a new rope is 150-200, right there im in the hole and made nothing!

LawnMoore 08-06-2010 09:51 PM

Oh and again, running a business is like having 3-5 part time jobs! Marketing,sales,inventory,management,labor,etc.. sometimes it feels like more than 5 different jobs lol.. plus public relation skills, some ppl cannot gather the confidence to do door to door. i dont know there are a lot of reasons why ppl fail lol..

Thats a lot for the average Joe to handle without proper training.

So like andy said, some are just "NOT CUT OUT FOR THE JOB" but after a couple trials and errors, they will get better.

MountainViewGreenskeeper 08-07-2010 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LawnMoore (Post 75457)
Oh and again, running a business is like having 3-5 part time jobs! Marketing,sales,inventory,management,labor,etc.. sometimes it feels like more than 5 different jobs lol..

thats the truth....

Anyways i dont really have an answer to the original question but its a thought that crosses my mind once a week or so. i am experiencing sucess in my eyes but i worry what could go wrong. i dont remember the statistic but its what 50% of businesses fail in the first 5 years. I dont want to be part of that group that fails so I am constantly looking at my action to prepare for concequences. Maybe i just over think things some times but this is my life. If this fail I fail. obviously im young enough to recover from this but i have ambitions as to where I want to take my business.

As steve was saying maybe it those childhood dreams that push me forward with this stuff. and I havent lost those dreams from adulthood yet. dont get me wrong there is a certain amount of realism in those dreams now.

Idk I feel like Im rambling now.....

Steve 08-08-2010 03:22 AM

What kind of advice would you have to offer the average person, working a fulltime job who dreams of running a business?

How should they even get to the point where they can find at least something they could do as a business, even part time?

Where should they look for ideas? What if they have no interests other than not wanting to work a full time job any further? What do they do? How do they find an interest to see if they even like it?

As you look around, do you feel most people who work full time jobs, have interests or do most of them not? Full time jobs seem to be designed to suck the life out of you and when you feel your life being sucked away, you tend to not do anything besides that but eat and sleep, in order to be ready to do it all again the next day.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:18 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

» Recent Threads
  RatingTitle, Username, & Date Last Post Replies Views
Total yard rehab
SGL1
04-23-2015 03:59 PM
Today 08:25 PM
by SGL1
7 139
mowing pic
joshlawncare
Today 12:34 PM
Today 08:09 PM
by avetslawncare
1 47
Big (to me) mulch job
tl757
04-23-2015 05:32 PM
Today 08:01 PM
by avetslawncare
7 156
what's the big deal...
Tony317
Today 02:19 PM
Today 02:19 PM
by Tony317
0 35
Lawn Care Service in...
Friscobob
Yesterday 03:33 PM
Today 05:35 AM
by Sprinkler Buddy
2 77
New company in Michigan
SEM
Yesterday 09:27 PM
Today 05:26 AM
by Sprinkler Buddy
1 45
Newb Question - Multiple...
DependiLawn
Yesterday 11:36 PM
Yesterday 11:36 PM
by DependiLawn
0 38
maintandlawndispatch...
SGL1
04-21-2015 03:31 PM
Yesterday 04:42 PM
by Steve
9 212
Thoughts on Undocumented...
element009
09-25-2011 11:08 AM
04-23-2015 09:32 PM
by Chilehead
56 15,505
Hello Everyone
DesignsByBnC
04-22-2015 04:07 PM
04-23-2015 02:19 PM
by DesignsByBnC
2 89
The upcoming rainy...
5StarLawnscaping
04-21-2015 01:22 PM
04-23-2015 12:54 PM
by Steve
7 190
color fliers?
holymoly
04-18-2015 02:32 PM
04-23-2015 12:50 PM
by Steve
12 354
I'm Back With The Best...
aduttonater
02-21-2015 12:41 AM
04-22-2015 07:04 PM
by Just for Cuts
59 2,529
WARNING! Especially to...
SC93
04-19-2015 12:05 PM
04-22-2015 01:39 PM
by Steve
14 418
Could be great news for...
SC93
04-14-2015 11:06 PM
04-22-2015 01:28 PM
by Steve
15 505
quick pic
joshlawncare
04-14-2015 07:49 PM
04-21-2015 05:01 PM
by joshlawncare
4 332
Got Inspected today
swstout
08-09-2010 10:31 PM
04-21-2015 03:53 PM
by SGL1
10 3,988
Smoked my first belt!
SGL1
04-20-2015 08:46 PM
04-21-2015 03:28 PM
by SGL1
4 159
Pictures of commercial...
avetslawncare
04-01-2015 09:47 PM
04-21-2015 12:47 PM
by Steve
25 1,011
lawn care business...
holymoly
04-18-2015 02:56 PM
04-21-2015 06:18 AM
by holymoly
3 254
These are the days on...
ExtremeLawncareServices
01-11-2015 10:41 AM
04-21-2015 03:18 AM
by ExtremeLawncareServices
57 5,246
landscape insurance
clarkslawn
03-30-2015 10:14 PM
04-20-2015 10:02 PM
by SGL1
4 471
Poll & Discussion...
CHEESE2009
09-16-2011 06:16 PM
04-20-2015 08:20 PM
by avetslawncare
27 5,668
weed
avetslawncare
04-16-2015 07:56 PM
04-20-2015 01:08 PM
by Steve
4 262
Aerating / Dethaching...
Hard-Body lawn & garden
04-12-2015 07:53 PM
04-19-2015 08:49 PM
by Chilehead
17 599
Start LIKING FACEBOOK...
rlclawncare123
02-26-2015 12:06 AM
04-19-2015 09:21 AM
by KJ90
8 1,010
bidding a cemetery....
NPM_LLC
03-28-2015 10:56 AM
04-19-2015 05:26 AM
by RSE
22 1,015
Hustler Raptor
SGL1
04-13-2015 09:27 PM
04-18-2015 07:53 AM
by SGL1
15 520
is craiglist good to...
JBENI
04-16-2015 11:11 AM
04-17-2015 10:25 PM
by Wolf4dk
11 417
Am I missing something...
googus
04-11-2015 06:33 PM
04-17-2015 08:01 PM
by avetslawncare
10 542
Hello
sonny54
04-16-2015 09:49 PM
04-17-2015 03:10 PM
by Steve
1 203
Unreal
Chilehead
04-09-2015 09:12 PM
04-17-2015 08:27 AM
by Chilehead
11 568
starting a lawn care...
JBENI
04-14-2015 09:03 AM
04-17-2015 08:03 AM
by JBENI
14 548
Finally got a warehouse
avetslawncare
03-12-2015 07:52 PM
04-16-2015 07:52 PM
by avetslawncare
23 1,370
New 14 x 7 Enclosed...
whitepropertydetail
04-15-2015 06:46 PM
04-16-2015 03:40 PM
by Steve
1 258
older used dump trucks
SECTLANDSCAPING
09-22-2011 12:33 AM
04-16-2015 12:41 PM
by biglee
21 8,056
Tax Poll
Steve
04-15-2015 02:13 PM
04-15-2015 02:13 PM
by Steve
0 241
lawn care by Aj
aj10261984
04-14-2015 06:50 PM
04-15-2015 01:43 PM
by Steve
2 274
Contact last years...
googus
01-28-2015 08:13 AM
04-15-2015 12:54 PM
by SC93
7 1,273
trying to sign up for...
JBENI
04-14-2015 10:20 AM
04-14-2015 12:11 PM
by Steve
1 745
Charging customers for...
Hard-Body lawn & garden
04-14-2015 07:34 AM
04-14-2015 10:35 AM
by Steve
1 308
New member
Jdlandscaping,LLC
04-11-2015 03:24 PM
04-14-2015 05:45 AM
by Jdlandscaping,LLC
2 333
hello
oasis_greenscapes
04-01-2015 06:18 PM
04-13-2015 12:03 PM
by Steve
8 573
New Member
Greenturion
04-11-2015 02:00 PM
04-13-2015 11:59 AM
by Steve
1 296
Client with...
OldSalt
04-07-2015 09:47 PM
04-13-2015 11:57 AM
by Steve
8 524
Getting rid of "mulched...
Mr. Mow
04-12-2015 04:21 PM
04-13-2015 11:26 AM
by biglee
3 333
String trim BEFORE mow...
Mr. Mow
04-12-2015 08:13 AM
04-13-2015 11:11 AM
by biglee
7 448
Billing methods
jcurr33
03-26-2015 01:33 PM
04-13-2015 11:07 AM
by biglee
15 953
Landscape Fabric
CurbAppeal1
04-10-2015 03:58 PM
04-13-2015 08:02 AM
by Chilehead
4 378
I lost a long term...
Sprinkler Buddy
09-04-2011 02:24 PM
04-12-2015 04:27 PM
by Mr. Mow
17 4,020
Read more about these lawn care business marketing categories.
General Business:
GopherHaul, Podcast
How to Estimate - Services To Offer:
Aeration, Apartment / Condo, bed edging, Color Change Plantings, Dethatching, Edging, Fall Leaf Cleanups, Foreclosed Homes, Gutter Cleaning, Hardscaping, Hedge Trimming, Home Safety Inspection, Irrigation, Landscape Project, Lawn Mower Repair, Mowing, Mulch Jobs, Outdoor decoration, Parking Lot Cleanups, Pet Waste Removal, Pressure Washing, Property Management, Snow plowing, Stump Grinding, Tree Removal
How to Estimate Jobs:
Lawn Care Business:
Barter, Bikini Lawn Care, Business Failure, Business loan, Business Plan, Debt, Debt Collection, Estimate or Proposal Form, Franchise, Fuel surcharge, How to sell, Insurance, Job Tracking, Lawn Care Contract, Lawn Care Customer Survey, Lawn Care Uniform, Lawn Care Videos, Operational Costs, Overhead Costs, Prepay, Pricing, Start up, Tiger Time Lawn Care,
Lawn Care Business Books:
Lawn Care Customers:
Buying customers, Commercial Customers, Customer Retention, How to get, Residential Customers
Lawn Care Employees:
1 Man Lawn Crew, Bonus Pay, training, Your First Employee
lawn care equipment:
bed edger, Lawn Care Truck, Leaf Sweeper, Mower, New Arrival, Trailer, UltraVac
Lawn Care Marketing:
Billboard, Brochure, Business Card, Community Projects To Promote Your Business, Coupons, Cross Promotion / Synergy, Direct Mail, Door hanger, door to door, Free Giveaway Contest, Free Lawn Care Flyer Template, Gift or Discount Cards, home show, Internet, Lawn Care Business Sales Letter, Lawn Care Logo, Lawn Care Marketing, Lawn Care Truck & Trailer Signs, Lawn Care Website, Lawn Signs, Magazine Ad, Magnets, Mailing list, Marketing on Craigslist.com, Newspaper Ads, Parade, Postcards, publicity stunt, Referrals, Review My Lawn Care Marketing Material, t-shirt, Welcoming Kit, Word Of Mouth
Seasonal Promotion Ideas:
4th of July, Armed Forces Day, Christmas, Election Day, Fall, Halloween, Memorial Day, Spring, Summer, Valentine's Day, Veteran's Day, Winter:
Software:
Estimation Software, Landscaper Software, Landscaping Business Software, Landscaping Estimate Software, Landscaping Software, Lawn Care Business Software, Lawn Care Estimating Software, Lawn Care Software, Mowing Software
Uncategorized:
Video:
Website:
Search Engine Optimization
» Lawn Care Business Discussion Categories
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.1.0

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:18 PM.


(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:18 PM.

(C) 2011 Riggs Publications - Terms of use & Privacy Policy