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  • #31
    most of my lawns are small or with gates. I didn't use my 48" mower once last year just not worth the space on the trailer. I started the year with a 32" walk behind and quickly upgraded to 33" zero turn. You have to think about how long you want to be on your feet per day. When I use a WB all day I am died at the end of the day but, with a z-turn I feel great
    <a href="http://s1259.photobucket.com/user/willshome/media/P1010221.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i1259.photobucket.com/albums/ii549/willshome/P1010221.jpg" border="0" alt="Zero turn WillsLawns.com photo P1010221.jpg"/></a>
    hey that toro weed eater its sexy haha i have one of those buy it thinking it was going to last me 3 months haa their fine.

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    • #32
      Lawns across the country are the same concept as when someone everyday asks us "How do I bid a job?" Its the same answer....THEY ARE ALL DIFFERENT!

      Everyone here tries to use a mower more practical for THEM. What works for you, may not work for me. What I do, you may not be able to do. The majority of my lawns are 1/3 ace postage stamps, 1 acre million dollar homes, or townhouses. I can tell you this, a townhouse gets me the most profit. I had a day set aside where all I did was cut townhouses. I left the trailer, and loaded my 21" toro in the back of my f-150 using 2x6's, trimmer and blower in the back. I used less gas, less wear on equipment, and averaged $4 a minute. There are also TONS of townhouses in my area, with more going up every week.

      Some of you guys have lawns with 7 acres. Thats unheard of around here. Honestly, if your doing all residential in my neck of the woods, theres no need to go above a 48" deck. We are all very different.

      So if you want to put a mower in the back of your truck, and that works for you, then go right ahead. One of these days, you will need a trailer, as the equipment piles up as you grow (if you chose to grow!!!). Some people are happy staying small, just do whats best for you.

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      • #33
        hey that toro weed eater its sexy haha i have one of those buy it thinking it was going to last me 3 months haa their fine.
        love the Toro works every time and the different heads make life easy. When I got the tiller I was thinking I would return it because it's just a "TOY" but it works great. The $53 pole saw is great I use it as a chainsaw for down branches when I don't have my chainsaw with me

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        • #34
          Equipment depends on area very much.

          I started out in an area where everything was zero turn. Then I got residential accounts and needed smaller mowers. Well I was still making a mower payment so I opted for toro self propelled 21 in I believe. With 2 of them, the same ones they sell at home depot or Lowes for 400 I paid 125 each new. So for $250 I got roughly 40 in of cutting area.

          Yes I know about quality of cuts. But the year I'm getting a serious walk behind. The wife is tired of push mowing lol

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          • #35
            Equipment depends on area very much.

            I started out in an area where everything was zero turn. Then I got residential accounts and needed smaller mowers. Well I was still making a mower payment so I opted for toro self propelled 21 in I believe. With 2 of them, the same ones they sell at home depot or Lowes for 400 I paid 125 each new. So for $250 I got roughly 40 in of cutting area.

            Yes I know about quality of cuts. But the year I'm getting a serious walk behind. The wife is tired of push mowing lol
            At least your wife understands the whole concept of "work".

            I was thinking of doing all walk behinds in the future, have any of you found them to be better off than the ztr? I won't be doing the cutting, I'll be focusing on something else, but I figure 2 WB's and a 2 man crew would do fine.
            Last edited by LawnBoy0311; 03-20-2013, 11:30 AM.

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            • #36
              Ok guys, I didn't want to start a new thread and I know I might get some bashing. I came to the conclusion I want to make this a hobby "per say" and not go big. I am have 8 accounts for the year with four quotes still outstanding plus my yard. I was thinking of a cut off of 20-25.


              With that beings said I know I probably could get by with my 21 but the summer will kill me. 75% of my account have fenced in back yards and as stated in the previous threads I am thinking of getting a 30 in deck for the follow reasons.
              Don't need a trailer. ( no space to store it)
              Money.
              Space in garage

              Now for obvious reasons the three dealer I went to say get the toro turfmaster or he Exmark . Now he question is (since I am looking to get one) do I really need to spend the extra 800.00 on a commercial or would the Toro timemaster for 1,000 work for my needs. I do plan on doing this for years to come but still keeping it small to around 20-25 accounts.

              Thanks guys
              Greg

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              • #37
                Something to keep in mind, from what we have seen in the past on here if you get a consumer model and get 200 hours of use out of it, that is great. If you get a commercial unit and get 2,000 hours of use from it, that is great.

                Sure you can get the consumer model and pay $1,000 and then at the end of it's useable life, you can buy another one.

                If you want to do this as a hobby and just experiment, it seems you are leaning towards the consumer model. Hey go for it. Get it. Tell us how long it lasts for you and then tell us what you decide to go with next.

                Keep us posted.
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                • #38
                  Thanks Steve.
                  As another note of interest. The Exmark drive engage bar seem very stiff ( I am sure that it will loosen up) but while it does it might appear to give your hands and wrist a workout. The Toro timemaster has the personal pace drive.

                  Crap it's harder then buying a car

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                  • #39
                    Well keep us posted on what you decide to go with
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                    • #40
                      I just saw a 36 inch hydro for sale for 1000 dollars on another forum said it was used in great shape. Dont be afraid to "grow" into equipments within reason. Get the home owner push mower out of your thought process. When a home owner brand fails you and it will what will you do when its a week or three to get fixed. In this buisiness down time kills you. If y ou decide to walk away you have a mower that will last a lifetime with a commercial mower. Not to mention a commercial mower cuts so much better.

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                      • #41
                        Well I dropped the ball on an Emark 30in. Well transaction didn't go great from a small place. I went in under the impression it was no payments until June then no interest for a year. Then when I took delivery no go it was for mowers 2500 above then the finiance company sacked me for 125 processing fee( well there goes interest free

                        The mower
                        Bit heavy
                        The gear engagement was well ( you pull in it and Wow it goes)
                        I cut two somewhat dry lawns with a lot of weeds. When I got home there was alot of grass flushed out. No problem with mower or ruts.
                        My 8 year old Daugher started it.
                        Why can't companies find a better way to change oil? ( the tech said just turn it on its side)? I said are you crazy? The unit is 180lbs.?
                        I found a hex nut for oil but crap oil will go everywhere.

                        I feel it will be a great mower that I just have to get used to.

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                        • #42
                          Well I dropped the ball on an Emark 30in. Well transaction didn't go great from a small place. I went in under the impression it was no payments until June then no interest for a year. Then when I took delivery no go it was for mowers 2500 above then the finiance company sacked me for 125 processing fee( well there goes interest free

                          The mower
                          Bit heavy
                          The gear engagement was well ( you pull in it and Wow it goes)
                          I cut two somewhat dry lawns with a lot of weeds. When I got home there was alot of grass flushed out. No problem with mower or ruts.
                          My 8 year old Daugher started it.
                          Why can't companies find a better way to change oil? ( the tech said just turn it on its side)? I said are you crazy? The unit is 180lbs.?
                          I found a hex nut for oil but crap oil will go everywhere.

                          I feel it will be a great mower that I just have to get used to.
                          Not sure the brand engine but on my small hondas I put a hose on the oil drain. I twist it and it goes right into a container.

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                          • #43
                            http://www.exmarkmobil.com/model_specs.php?m=1157

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                            • #44
                              eXmark Commercial 30

                              googus-

                              I know this is an old thread, but I just bought an eXmark Commercial 30 two days ago. I could tell that oil changes weren't going to be fun as the unit came, so I ordered the hose extension drain plug that they put on their bigger mowers at time of purchase. Part number is 116-5052 and description is "ASM, ENGINE OIL DRAIN". The dealer is having the part shipped to me, as it's about a 100 mile round-trip from our small town.

                              Great buying experience with dealer, but hope I don't have the warranty repair issues you have had (saw in another thread). Hope all has improved and that we get many years of good use from our commercial machines.

                              There, my first post. Thanks to everyone for all I've learned on this forum and others of its kind. I'm grateful for everyone's vast and varied experience; know I'll benefit from it!

                              Best wishes and take care!

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