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    this picture is of LOWE's WAREHOUSE
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    ****-just the big islands and small islands(front-sides-back)********

    weekly cuts during the growing season (April-September)

    3 cuts per month for march and october

    2 cuts per month for nov, dec, jan, and feb

    edging of hard surfaces and weed eating will be performed every 2 weeks during the growing season and as needed during the off-season

    clippings and other debris to be blown from walks, patios, and parking areas after each mowing

    plant beds to be weeded by chemical means and supplemented by hand, weeding once a month to provide a weed free enviroment

    all trees and shrubs to be pruned 2 times a year at the appropiate time for plant and flower developpments using proper horticultural practices

    pine straw will be put out 2 times a year(April/October) at the appropriate time

    i called them on the phone and asked about contracts, and they said they dont do contracts its a a 30 day term, if you dont do good then you are gone, if you do good work you stay for another 20 days and so on and so on.......




  • #2
    Quote[/b] (landonkade @ Jan. 22 2008,2:49)]this picture is of LOWE's WAREHOUSE
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    ****-just the big islands and small islands(front-sides-back)********

    weekly cuts during the growing season (April-September)

    3 cuts per month for march and october

    2 cuts per month for nov, dec, jan, and feb

    edging of hard surfaces and weed eating will be performed every 2 weeks during the growing season and as needed during the off-season

    clippings and other debris to be blown from walks, patios, and parking areas after each mowing

    plant beds to be weeded by chemical means and supplemented by hand, weeding once a month to provide a weed free enviroment

    all trees and shrubs to be pruned 2 times a year at the appropiate time for plant and flower developpments using proper horticultural practices

    pine straw will be put out 2 times a year(April/October) at the appropriate time

    i called them on the phone and asked about contracts, and they said they dont do contracts its a a 30 day term, if you dont do good then you are gone, if you do good work you stay for another 20 days and so on and so on.......
    wow here we go again with all these views and no responces

    hummmmmmm...........

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    • #3
      Not worth the trouble, at any time they can say ok we dont want to use you anymore and your gone, holding 30 days worth of work and unpaid invoices.

      Just me But I would walk on this one.

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      • #4
        How often do such commercial facilities not want to use a contract? Does this seem odd to you?
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        • #5
          Quote[/b] (Team Gopher @ Jan. 22 2008,5:59)]How often do such commercial facilities not want to use a contract? Does this seem odd to you?
          yes but they prob had a bad deal at one point and now thats how they want to do business, Wal-Mart was a hard customer, wanted everything and didnt want to pay anything,

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          • #6
            Quote[/b] (realhuntin @ Jan. 22 2008,5:50)]Not worth the trouble, at any time they can say ok we dont want to use you anymore and your gone, holding 30 days worth of work and unpaid invoices.

            Just me But I would walk on this one.
            well what would u think of a bid price? I know it probaly wont be worth it, but its a try

            i could offer them trash pick up or something also for a certain amount, like rodman does



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            • #7
              Tim,

              What minimum length of a contract would you need to service this property?
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              • #8
                Quote[/b] (Team Gopher @ Jan. 22 2008,8:19)]Tim,

                What minimum length of a contract would you need to service this property?
                The only thing you might be able to do is a month to month, and it is risky at best. I wouldnt touch any corp co with out a contract they like to hold on to the money for as long as they can get away with.

                A contract is a legal binder between 2 or more parties. I have done things like this before and got more headaches then pay.

                Please know this, to some I may sound hard and Im only about the money well I am, but in fact most people hate to work for me because Im so OCD about everything, Im a neat freak and perfectionist. It gets done right the first time and NO one else could have done it better, they may be equal but not better. A job i did and you can see I didnt like how it was turning out so I changed it at MY cost. IF THE CUSTOMER LIKES IT, I LOVE IT. Every job should have the WOW effect to it. Its about reocurring revenue and how do you get that, return customers and customer referrals, from provideing the VERY BEST service every time 110% of the time. People hate me and really hate to be around me when there are call backs, there is no excuse for call backs EVER, do it right and there wont be any even if it cost me money. We are in business to make money and provide a lawn care landscape service, not collection services, collections cost you money even if you get paid collecting late fees and other fees, it still cost you money.

                You have to know when to walk away, and this one I would walk away from, it just isnt worth the time.
                Weigh the Pro's and Con's, if the Pro's out weigh the cons then go for it, but I can tell now that isnt going to happen. Name 5 real good mainline things that would benefit your company by taking this job?

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                • #9
                  Quote[/b] (realhuntin @ Jan. 23 2008,1:03)]
                  Quote[/b] (Team Gopher @ Jan. 22 2008,8:19)]Tim,

                  What minimum length of a contract would you need to service this property?
                  The only thing you might be able to do is a month to month, and it is risky at best. I wouldnt touch any corp co with out a contract they like to hold on to the money for as long as they can get away with.

                  A contract is a legal binder between 2 or more parties. I have done things like this before and got more headaches then pay.

                  Please know this, to some I may sound hard and Im only about the money well I am, but in fact most people hate to work for me because Im so OCD about everything, Im a neat freak and perfectionist. It gets done right the first time and NO one else could have done it better, they may be equal but not better. A job i did and you can see I didnt like how it was turning out so I changed it at MY cost. IF THE CUSTOMER LIKES IT, I LOVE IT. Every job should have the WOW effect to it. Its about reocurring revenue and how do you get that, return customers and customer referrals, from provideing the VERY BEST service every time 110% of the time. People hate me and really hate to be around me when there are call backs, there is no excuse for call backs EVER, do it right and there wont be any even if it cost me money. We are in business to make money and provide a lawn care landscape service, not collection services, collections cost you money even if you get paid collecting late fees and other fees, it still cost you money.

                  You have to know when to walk away, and this one I would walk away from, it just isnt worth the time.
                  Weigh the Pro's and Con's, if the Pro's out weigh the cons then go for it, but I can tell now that isnt going to happen. Name 5 real good mainline things that would benefit your company by taking this job?
                  good point tim


                  i went into a neighborhood this morning, it was a horseshoe road with about 50 homes in it. I went door to door giving busines cards out. I walked the whole thing,lol... need to do that at alot more neighborhoods,lol

                  Hope to see a good return from it, spring is around the corner

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                  • #10
                    Why not put in a bid?

                    Remember, we are businessmen and business is all about negotiation.

                    Too often, LCOs think that they have to accept whatever contract is offered. You have every right to write your own demands into a contract.

                    Don't be intimidated just because it is LOWE'S. If they want to give you month-by-month work it is probably because their last LCO did a poor job. Don't be like that last guy. Prove yourself and make them trust you.

                    If I were going to have a month-by-month agreement, I would write into my proposal that I want payment on the 30th of the same month I do the work or by-the-job. I want one NAMED supervisor to interact with and approve my work and he will sign a P.O. or a satisfaction form at each visit (or once per month). I also want the ability to cease working for them on a month-by-month basis (if they like your work, they will transfer you to a yearly contract in no time).

                    Speak with the supervisor who will approve your work. If you feel comfortable with him and if you are in full understanding with the work to be done, by all means, bid accordingly.

                    Never low-ball a bid like this. If they want quality work, they should be willing to pay for it. Speak with the supervisor to let him know you charge more because you take extra time to make sure everything it done correctly.

                    If they don't agree with your proposal, walk away.

                    I have done tons of work with factories and industrial complexes like this. I have always found starting out on the right foot with great communication with the supervisor, they are normally very amiable.

                    It is fairly easy to talk them into additional work such as building planters around their driveway entrances to make the area look better.

                    When the company's Vice Presidents are scheduled to pay them a visit, they will often call you for "RUSH" jobs to which you can say "I can do it today but I need an extra $100 to adjust my schedule."

                    I know some LCOs don't like this type of work but I always found it to be some of the best money around. Once your foot is in the door and they see you provide high quality work, you should have an easy time with it.

                    Good luck:

                    Keith
                    Start a profitable lawn care business.

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                    • #11
                      We went thru a similar situation with a Lonestar restaurant. We went back and for for three weeks tweaking the numbers...(they wanted alot of additional work&#33 After submitting the estimate, the storm manager told me its a done deal just got to get approval from the District manager. Three weeks later, were starting our cuts and no reply still... my wife call to see if and when she can pick up a signed contract. The SM tells her that he did not yet get approval but wants to go with us. She told him as soon as the contract is signed we can get there the next day to start. (big $$ alot of exposure)... With that, he is appalled. He says that he cant understand why we cant come out there and start the work... "Lonestar is good for the money"... my wife told him that she understands his position, and if he is that sure there will be no problem getting paid, then sign your personal name on the contract... She said she heard his jaw hit the floor... after saying that, she then tells him the other option is to pay us cash at each service until the contract is signed....dumbfounded that this 27 yr old hot blond talked to him this way, he said that he would get back to us

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