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  • #31
    1.)Wide open minimal trimming 4.5 acres in 1:35 with a well worn 60 lazer 25 Kohler
    2.)The scag cheetah i bought Saturday destroys the old exmark .
    3.)The big blocks dont drop as much in the thick grass as smaller engines do I know this to be true b/c i speek from experience. When a engine boggs down ground speed slows as well.
    4.) This property is not a neighborhood property with small fences and gates it is wide open big long swipes.
    Not even commenting on your posted time but the exmark claim. There actually right about my walk behind though. Either there lying about top speeds or the mowers are losing efficiency at higher speeds.

    your right about bogging but that only comes to play in high grass. The pumps dictate speed otherwise.

    I run a 60 29 kaw, 52 27 koh and a 52 22 koh.

    I wouldnt compare it to a yard. I'm comparing to the 24 acre campground I cut, thats pretty much wide open besides the dirt roads. We were lucky to get out of there in 5 hours.

    The campground owned a 48" lazer and a 60" cub that was broken at the time. They were paying for the simple reason it took them days to cut and trim the place. If they could cut that place in a reasonable time they wouldnt pay me $2700 a cut.

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    • #32
      Not even commenting on your posted time but the exmark claim. There actually right about my walk behind though. Either there lying about top speeds or the mowers are losing efficiency at higher speeds.

      your right about bogging but that only comes to play in high grass. The pumps dictate speed otherwise.

      I run a 60 29 kaw, 52 27 koh and a 52 22 koh.

      I wouldnt compare it to a yard. I'm comparing to the 24 acre campground I cut, thats pretty much wide open besides the dirt roads. We were lucky to get out of there in 5 hours.

      The campground owned a 48" lazer and a 60" cub that was broken at the time. They were paying for the simple reason it took them days to cut and trim the place. If they could cut that place in a reasonable time they wouldnt pay me $2700 a cut.
      We are here to help one another . 2700 is a nice payday.

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      • #33
        Hey Rockynut, what is your main mower?

        it was a 60 inch Exmark lazer on Saturday I bought a 60 inch skagg cheetah. 1 of my favorite lawn mowers is EX mark 52 inch or 60 inch turf tracer.

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        • #34
          So I walked the property and also took some pictures. I calculated my square footage wrong and came up with 38 acres. I was confused then because there is no way that could be it. I was using the wrong number for acreage when dividing. So here is what I came up with, part of the house, front was 700 feet across and from the front to the back of house was 790 feet. Then another area was 30 feet and 866 feet that he wants mowed. Also, part of property around the building was 160 by 160 feet. So, the grand total was 604,580 square feet which equal 13.87 acres. Does this sound right to you guys?

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          • #35
            So I walked the property and also took some pictures. I calculated my square footage wrong and came up with 38 acres. I was confused then because there is no way that could be it. I was using the wrong number for acreage when dividing. So here is what I came up with, part of the house, front was 700 feet across and from the front to the back of house was 790 feet. Then another area was 30 feet and 866 feet that he wants mowed. Also, part of property around the building was 160 by 160 feet. So, the grand total was 604,580 square feet which equal 13.87 acres. Does this sound right to you guys?
            Sounds,good to me if you can get ahold an old Garmin e Trex GPS is it will be in a light blue see thru case it should cost around 100 dollars new it came with a property estimator it's a pretty valuable tool the new ones no longer have it. knowing your square footage is a good thing if you get this property take detailed notes of how long it takes you what the conditions were like and this property will be a good learning curve so next time you're in good shape don't be afraid of it I gave you a property quote of about 300 to 350. if you have the Garmin you could drive the property on 1 of your 0 turns and record the data.

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            • #36
              Tell him $400.00 for the first mow and IF some "internal number statistics run well the price can be lowered to retain you as a customer without shortchanging quality for you or profit for me"

              When did being honest become a bad idea?

              ... but maybe that's a bad idea. Nobody where I live has 13 arces, not even the ultra rich, haha.

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              • #37
                Tell him $400.00 for the first mow and IF some "internal number statistics run well the price can be lowered to retain you as a customer without shortchanging quality for you or profit for me"

                When did being honest become a bad idea?

                ... but maybe that's a bad idea. Nobody where I live has 13 arces, not even the ultra rich, haha.
                So I just emailed the bid to the guy. Small yard I put a bid at $45 and the 13.8 acre lot at $425.I factored in some taxes with this amount as well. I got that figure by seeing how long it would take me and multiplying that by my hourly rate. If you did the math, its still right at $30 an acre without trimming so I believe its still a good deal. I hope so anyways. Im anxious and excited about it, so Im crossing my fingers now and hoping I get an email back saying both of my bids were accepted. Ill be a happy camber then.

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                • #38
                  At any point if you don't hear from him within the next couple of days, will you follow up to see if he had any further questions on your bid?

                  Also, did you consider presenting him the bid in person? Might that help sell it better?
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                  • #39
                    At any point if you don't hear from him within the next couple of days, will you follow up to see if he had any further questions on your bid?
                    Yes, I will consider calling him and following up on the bid.
                    Also, did you consider presenting him the bid in person? Might that help sell it better?
                    I did not because he gave me his email address and also his fax number. Maybe I should next time though. Im sure it will help sell it better. Im hoping my sweet charm when I met him will do that.

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                    • #40
                      30 an acre?

                      If that's the going rate where you are stay away from where I'm at. You will bust all our nuts if you come down here with that :/

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                      • #41
                        30 an acre?

                        If that's the going rate where you are stay away from where I'm at. You will bust all our nuts if you come down here with that :/
                        Who would really pay $45-60 an acre? That is $550-$700 +. I don't think some one will pay that a week here anyways. That would be well over $2,000+ a month.

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                        • #42
                          Who would really pay $45-60 an acre? That is $550-$700 +. I don't think some one will pay that a week here anyways. That would be well over $2,000+ a month.
                          they shouldnt buy a property that big. I could say the same thing about who would buy a 5 br house that would be like 5,000 month mortgage or who would pay 3,000 a month in property taxes or a Bentley. People do because they can afford it.

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                          • #43
                            they shouldnt buy a property that big. I could say the same thing about who would buy a 5 br house that would be like 5,000 month mortgage or who would pay 3,000 a month in property taxes or a Bentley. People do because they can afford it.

                            Well I decided to call the guy today right before 5, central time. He had two full days to look at the bid. So what he said was the my $425 for the 13.8 acres was a little high. I would be paying out over $1,600 a month. Yep, I knew that from the get go. He then also told me that the last guy was doing it for $225 and getting done in about 5 hours. I thought to myself, either he told me that number to get me down right there or the guy that he had it done, was some punk that was under charging him. There is no way I would touch it for that kind of money. I told my wife, this guy is nuts. So, I just told him most people are charging anywhere between $45-60 an acre here and I was only doing $30 an acre since he had over 10 acres. Then I just told him to think about, you have my number and to give me a call if you decide something different. He did say thanks for calling him and that I seemed pretty professional. Nice words from him , but Im not going to be the type to low ball myself to get a job, so I decided to stand firm. Maybe now he knows I mean business. I also told him my other option about mowing around the house a couple of acres every week and then the entire property every other week. That way it would of been a little cheaper, but not too much. He wanted everything mowed weekly though and didnt care for the other option.

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                            • #44
                              Well I decided to call the guy today right before 5, central time. He had two full days to look at the bid. So what he said was the my $425 for the 13.8 acres was a little high. I would be paying out over $1,600 a month. Yep, I knew that from the get go. He then also told me that the last guy was doing it for $225 and getting done in about 5 hours. I thought to myself, either he told me that number to get me down right there or the guy that he had it done, was some punk that was under charging him. There is no way I would touch it for that kind of money. I told my wife, this guy is nuts. So, I just told him most people are charging anywhere between $45-60 an acre here and I was only doing $30 an acre since he had over 10 acres. Then I just told him to think about, you have my number and to give me a call if you decide something different. He did say thanks for calling him and that I seemed pretty professional. Nice words from him , but Im not going to be the type to low ball myself to get a job, so I decided to stand firm. Maybe now he knows I mean business. I also told him my other option about mowing around the house a couple of acres every week and then the entire property every other week. That way it would of been a little cheaper, but not too much. He wanted everything mowed weekly though and didnt care for the other option.
                              If this guy does quality work for $225 why is he talking to you?

                              If you needed the work you couldve countered him in the middle. What he is asking for is unreasonable. You would be giving up a almost a day of work to do it.

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                              • #45
                                If this guy does quality work for $225 why is he talking to you?

                                If you needed the work you couldve countered him in the middle. What he is asking for is unreasonable. You would be giving up a almost a day of work to do it.
                                Not sure if its quality work or not, but the owner did mention whenever I asked him the first time I met him, Why are you looking for someone else to mow your lawn? He then told, well I wanted my yard mowed weekly, so sometimes the guy had excuses. At some occasions, he was suppose to stop by on a friday, but then plans came about. Then the next day, same thing happened. So, long story short, he wasnt very dependable in my opinion. Maybe he was getting the point that the yard was not worth the $225 every cut. lol

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