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    I know that its a little bit early to be thinking about snow,but today one of my customers, whom owns many properties asked if I was interested in taking on of the snow for his 17 condos including the road for this development. I have two commercial snow blowers that I use on my residential customers driveways. This would be my first actual plowing account. I have been looking into buying a plow anyway and this contract would be a good start. I think I could get $20 per 2-lane driveway per 2 inches.So a total of $ 340 for driveways. I am not sure what to charge for plowing the road. Not even a mile of a normal 2 lane neighborhood street. I am located in Ohio.

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    I know that its a little bit early to be thinking about snow,but today one of my customers, whom owns many properties asked if I was interested in taking on of the snow for his 17 condos including the road for this development. I have two commercial snow blowers that I use on my residential customers driveways. This would be my first actual plowing account. I have been looking into buying a plow anyway and this contract would be a good start. I think I could get $20 per 2-lane driveway per 2 inches.So a total of $ 340 for driveways. I am not sure what to charge for plowing the road. Not even a mile of a normal 2 lane neighborhood street. I am located in Ohio.
    I think you are shooting way low. I dont drop my plow for less then $35 as for the road you really need to think about a few things 1 insurance (you could be held responsible for anything that happens) 2 what kind of truck/plow and 3 SNOW STORAGE is there room for you to store a winters worth of snow?

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    • #3
      As for the road I would charge about $150-$200 a push minimum. But I dont know if I would even consider that. It will probably be more of a headache then its worth. I plow 35 drive ways and small commercial lots (2 gas stations an insurance office, and a hair salon)

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      • #4
        Do you really think that 17 driveways in a row are waste of time. Not even 2 hours of snow blowing for $340 bucks.

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        • #5
          Also both roads dead end in a circle because the the development is not done yet. I believe there is plenty of room for snow storage. I was thinking $ 200 a pass. Keep in mind this is a growing development. That has a possible plan for 50 condo. This in the future would be Lawn, Landscaping,and Snow removal. So right now I want to make sure that my rates are competitive to keep him happy for the future.

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          • #6
            Do you really think that 17 driveways in a row are waste of time. Not even 2 hours of snow blowing for $340 bucks.
            I didnt mean it was a wasre of time, I think you should be charging more. Think of the wear and tear on your stuff. If something breaks you either need to be able to fix it or buy a new on on the spot.

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            • #7
              Yea I understand what you mean.....Thanks for the help

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              • #8
                Yea I understand what you mean.....Thanks for the help
                Anytime buddy. What are you going to be using to plow?

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                • #9
                  so would you be doing walk ways?
                  $20 for every 2" sounds like great money with 17 of them
                  what about salt and sand
                  the road how many passes would that take in a 18" storm?

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                  • #10
                    so would you be doing walk ways?
                    $20 for every 2" sounds like great money with 17 of them
                    what about salt and sand
                    the road how many passes would that take in a 18" storm?
                    There really isnt much of a walkway and all of them are identical.No salt or sand.I am not really sure how many passes it would take. I am new to truck plowing.

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                    • #11
                      for a two lane road you are looking at between 6 passes depending on the size of your plow. Start ion the middle and windrow the snow to the edge of the road on the first 4 passes your last 2 will end up being after the snow event where your pushing the snow banks back. you will need to do that right from the start so you dont eventuly close the road in.

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                      • #12
                        Do you really think that 17 driveways in a row are waste of time. Not even 2 hours of snow blowing for $340 bucks.

                        it would be a waste of time if you have to carry a commercial snow plowing policy with slip and fall protection.

                        you can not look at it as if you are starting out and it being more money then you would make by staying home.
                        especially if it is a commercial job.
                        you not only got the property owner to contend with you have all the people that live there as well as those who visit and everyone today is looking for a easy buck in a slip and fall lawsuit.

                        i know you want to get things rolling and are starting out but unless it is 100% profitable it's a waste of time and if the guy raves about you to his buddies and gets you more work it will be because you are too cheap.

                        you should be charging 100 to 150 per hour minimum plus extra for ice control.

                        what if your truck goes down right in the middle of a storm? what will be your plan? do you have friends that have a plow truck? will they work that cheap and fit you in if they are pressed in getting their own work done?

                        what happens if your truck breaks and you get slammed with a 2,500 dollar repair bill? are you gonna have help to do it or are you gonna do it alone?
                        do you have the resources to cover costs until you get paid?

                        these are all things you need to consider when bidding snow removal and it may seem overboard but welcome to the world of business and the devil is in the details.

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                        • #13
                          No salt or sand.
                          are all 17 homes signing off on they are to do the salting them self?

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                          • #14
                            Thanks for all the advice. You all brought up details that I will have to discuss with the property manager. Also things to consider in order to protect my business.

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                            • #15
                              Also both roads dead end in a circle because the the development is not done yet. I believe there is plenty of room for snow storage. I was thinking $ 200 a pass. Keep in mind this is a growing development. That has a possible plan for 50 condo. This in the future would be Lawn, Landscaping,and Snow removal. So right now I want to make sure that my rates are competitive to keep him happy for the future.
                              Be careful when you are undercutting your price for possible future accounts, there is not garentee. Yes you might have the accounts but you will never be able to get your price up to market rates, unless you want to work for free on half of them. Undercutting only hurts the market including you! Dont sell yourself short.

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