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    Tomorrow I'm turning in a bid for this property for the 2013 season. The bid is for 4 different services and each is a separate bid. The landscaping has a breakdown in it. For the guys that never seen a commercial bid like this take a look. Every company does it differently but some things are always the same.

    Youll see when you start bidding jobs like this your bidding formula goes out the window. I mean you can try to bid edging at a $1 a ft but are you really going to charge someone $16k for the year for it? The same goes with gutters. I normally would charge about $3 a ft for a 3 story building but how do justify a $9k gutter cleaning? You have to break it all down in man hours.
    I did all the hard work in measuring. I just want to get some feedback before I submit this. The 2 things that are a pita is the edging and clearing the sidewalks of snow.

    I'm hoping to land the mowing and pressure washing. The gutter cleaning would be good too. I really dont want to deal with clearing snow from all those walks. If I do it will be with 4x4 quad that I dont have or if they let me leave the kubota on site. Theres no way I'm trailering a 3 ton tractor in snow.


    Spring Clean Up $____
    Mowing and Trimming Every 5-7 days $____ 3.6 acres surrounding a dozen buildings.
    Edging walks, beds, and trees per time $___ 4 x's a year 4800 liner ft.
    Fall Clean Up $
    Trimming & Pruning $
    Flowers Spring / Fall by office and sign $____
    Hand Weeding $_____ 2 x's a year
    Mulching $_____ 6" Depth ( 2200 sq ft)

    The next bid is for gutter cleaning. Theres 3180 liner feet of gutters. The buildings are ' tall. $_____

    Then we have pressure washing. Theres 12 buildings, all are 3 stories, 11340 sq ft each, 136080 total. $_____

    The final piece is snow removal. The parking lot isnt that big at only 2.8 acres but there divided into 12 smaller lots. The real killer is the sidewalks theres 4800' of walks at 5' wide. $____

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    Tomorrow I'm turning in a bid for this property for the 2013 season. The bid is for 4 different services and each is a separate bid. The landscaping has a breakdown in it. For the guys that never seen a commercial bid like this take a look. Every company does it differently but some things are always the same.

    Youll see when you start bidding jobs like this your bidding formula goes out the window. I mean you can try to bid edging at a $1 a ft but are you really going to charge someone $16k for the year for it? The same goes with gutters. I normally would charge about $3 a ft for a 3 story building but how do justify a $9k gutter cleaning? You have to break it all down in man hours.
    I did all the hard work in measuring. I just want to get some feedback before I submit this. The 2 things that are a pita is the edging and clearing the sidewalks of snow.

    I'm hoping to land the mowing and pressure washing. The gutter cleaning would be good too. I really dont want to deal with clearing snow from all those walks. If I do it will be with 4x4 quad that I dont have or if they let me leave the kubota on site. Theres no way I'm trailering a 3 ton tractor in snow.


    Spring Clean Up $____
    Mowing and Trimming Every 5-7 days $____ 3.6 acres surrounding a dozen buildings.
    Edging walks, beds, and trees per time $___ 4 x's a year 4800 liner ft.
    Fall Clean Up $
    Trimming & Pruning $
    Flowers Spring / Fall by office and sign $____
    Hand Weeding $_____ 2 x's a year
    Mulching $_____ 6" Depth ( 2200 sq ft)

    The next bid is for gutter cleaning. Theres 3180 liner feet of gutters. The buildings are ' tall. $_____

    Then we have pressure washing. Theres 12 buildings, all are 3 stories, 11340 sq ft each, 136080 total. $_____

    The final piece is snow removal. The parking lot isnt that big at only 2.8 acres but there divided into 12 smaller lots. The real killer is the sidewalks theres 4800' of walks at 5' wide. $____

    https://maps.google.com/maps?oe=utf-...ed=0CBkQ8gEwAA
    How do you go about the whole commercial bid process?

    I thought about maybe submitting a few commercial bids for smaller places, but I don't even know who to contact to find the information out.
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    • #3
      How do you go about the whole commercial bid process?

      I thought about maybe submitting a few commercial bids for smaller places, but I don't even know who to contact to find the information out.
      Theyll find you. I dont know who these people are till they call. This the 4th commercial property I bid this week. The office of the property management company that called me today about 2 hotels is about 50 miles away. I would never think people that far away would be managing buildings in my area.

      Get your name out there is step one. Step two would be have the equipment for when they do call. Step three would be pay me for more info.

      You could try asking at the business your interested in but that might come off as desperate. I dont think these type of people like unsolicited bids. They usually target the 4 or 5 biggest companies.

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      • #4
        Theyll find you. I dont know who these people are till they call. This the 4th commercial property I bid this week. The office of the property management company that called me today about 2 hotels is about 50 miles away. I would never think people that far away would be managing buildings in my area.

        Get your name out there is step one. Step two would be have the equipment for when they do call. Step three would be pay me for more info.

        You could try asking at the business your interested in but that might come off as desperate. I dont think these type of people like unsolicited bids. They usually target the 4 or 5 biggest companies.
        I thought you could contact them and then be put on their bid list. Then when the time came around you just submit a bid, and they pick who they want.
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        • #5
          How many man hours are you estimating each service to take you?
          • Spring Clean Up
            How many many hours for this?
          • Mowing and Trimming Every 5-7 days, 3.6 acres surrounding a dozen buildings.
            How many many hours for this?
          • Edging walks, beds, and trees per time. 4 x's a year 4800 liner ft.
            How many many hours for this?
          • Fall Clean Up
            How many many hours for this?
          • Trimming & Pruning
            How many many hours for this?
          • Flowers Spring / Fall by office and sign
            How many many hours for this?
          • Hand Weeding. 2 x's a year
            How many many hours for this?
          • Mulching 6" Depth ( 2200 sq ft)
            How many many hours for this?
          • The next bid is for gutter cleaning. Theres 3180 liner feet of gutters. The buildings are ' tall.
            How many man hours and how high up are these gutters?
          • Then we have pressure washing. Theres 12 buildings, all are 3 stories, 11340 sq ft each, 136080 total.
            How many many hours for this?
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          • #6
            I got a call today saying my snow removal bid was extremely low. I bid it at $26,500. I was 1 for 8 on snow bids so I dropped $4k off the bid. Now that I'm reran the numbers I'm at $33,600. I still think that might be a bit low.

            There was only 3 snow events last winter but we should get 8-10 this year.

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            • #7
              Did you hear anything about how the lawn care bid went? Is that tied in with the snow removal bid?
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              • #8
                Did you hear anything about how the lawn care bid went? Is that tied in with the snow removal bid?
                I shouldve asked but didnt. The 4 bids were all separate, so there not really tied together.

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                • #9
                  Spring Clean Up $____
                  Mowing and Trimming Every 5-7 days $____ 3.6 acres surrounding a dozen buildings.
                  Edging walks, beds, and trees per time $___ 4 x's a year 4800 liner ft.
                  Fall Clean Up $
                  Trimming & Pruning $
                  Flowers Spring / Fall by office and sign $____
                  Hand Weeding $_____ 2 x's a year
                  Mulching $_____ 6" Depth ( 2200 sq ft)

                  The next bid is for gutter cleaning. Theres 3180 liner feet of gutters. The buildings are ' tall. $_____

                  Then we have pressure washing. Theres 12 buildings, all are 3 stories, 11340 sq ft each, 136080 total. $_____
                  What did you finally go with for them?

                  I hope you get it!
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                  • #10
                    What did you finally go with for them?

                    I hope you get it!
                    Around $60,000 total. I really would like all the contracts for this one but the snow plowing is going to require a 10,000 investment. I dont want to rely on subs again they screwed me in the past.

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                    • #11
                      I really would like all the contracts for this one but the snow plowing is going to require a 10,000 investment.
                      What would you be getting?
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                      • #12
                        What would you be getting?
                        I would need another truck and a atv with plow. I was already shopping for the truck but the quad would be for the walks only.

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                        • #13
                          I got a call today saying my snow removal bid was extremely low. I bid it at $26,500. I was 1 for 8 on snow bids so I dropped $4k off the bid. Now that I'm reran the numbers I'm at $33,600. I still think that might be a bit low.
                          Do you think it was a blessing for them to catch you on this? If you had gotten the bid at that initial price, would it have been painful to perform the job throughout the winter or would it have been fine?

                          What do you think caused the difference in price?
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                          • #14
                            to save on costs of buying a atv why dont you look at an snow attachment for your mower? some manufacturers have all kinds of attachments for commercial mowers and im sure you can find one for one of your mowers..... that is is if you have a rider or stander..

                            for example:
                            http://www.gravely.com/zero-turn-mow...cessories.aspx

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                            • #15
                              Have you ever used such an attachment? Any thoughts on their functionality?
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