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    i got called out to a mulch job yesterday so i took my small tape HA HA the guy wants a HUGE place mulched , trees trimmed , bushes dug up , and more planted , the measurements for mulch is 134 ft long 27 ft wide total is 3618 sq ft plus its on about a 45 degrees pitch ." i can get red mulch for less then $20 a bucket "

    Here is my plan i am going to trim trees ect. & dig up plants and replant 1st
    then do the mulch i will have my self and 2 people working with me
    now with that being said how do i try to bid this ?

    how can i post pics on here ?

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    Ok, i recently done a rebed mulch job, with me getting the weeds out, and remulching.

    I get red cypress mulch for right under 20 a yard, he was 20 miles from where i pick up the mulch, i live in the middle of mulch and job.

    So, being me making up for fuel, i fig the mulch at 50 per yard delivered.

    I charged him 75 per yard to do those 2 beds, i got 150 on the mulch job, and had 1 yard left over! i done another ladys new install, and charged her 25 for a half yard, and 25 for bed edgers, the bed edgers i got cost me 33 cents a piece, i sold them at 1 dollar each to cover me edging int he bed.


    So over all im thinking, how far is your job, or you get 20 a bucket load delivered? no..

    So, you get 20 per bucket load, charge 50 per bucket load, 75 if you have to install and spread it.

    however 20 per buckt load i hope is a 1 yrd bucketload

    and how far is your delivery in miles to the job? This is what determines how much you need to tack on, if you drive it 30 miles, might want to get 80 per bucket, installed.


    Just some thought, buy it 1x charge it 3x.
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      how can i post pics on here ?
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      • #4
        So over all I'm thinking, how far is your job, or you get 20 a bucket load delivered? no..

        So, you get 20 per bucket load, charge 50 per bucket load, 75 if you have to install and spread it.

        however 20 per buckt load i hope is a 1 yrd bucketload

        and how far is your delivery in miles to the job? This is what determines how much you need to tack on, if you drive it 30 miles, might want to get 80 per bucket, installed.


        Just some thought, buy it 1x charge it 3x.

        I'm about 17 miles from the job and i get red cypress for $18 a scoop i can haul at least 4 scoops / yards at a time I'm just not a 100% sure of how to charge this is the biggest mulch job i have done it is going to cost me at least $380 labor & matieral

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        • #5
          here is a couple pics of the beast i have to tame
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          • #6
            ^^^ Oh CRAP, and it's on a steep hillside too!

            My back hurts just thinking about pushing that wheelbarrow up there.

            I did a job about that size by myself last year. That's a lot of mulch.
            Sorry I can't help with the bid portion - good luck though!

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            • #7
              You stated that your cost was going to be $380 labor and materials, is that including your pay? For example purposes lets say it is not.

              Holy crap, i just figured out the numbers on the mulch at 3" deep thats roughly 34 yards and you can only haul 4 yards at a time? You might want to consider having it delivered, your cost to go back and forth.......um oh ya 9 times at 17 miles each way is 34 miles times 9 = 306 miles
              Have it delivered my good man.

              Ok, am i missing something here.........34 yards of mulch at your cost of $20.00 per yard is $680.00, Did i figure wrong on the amount of mulch needed to cover 3618 sq. ft.? How did you come up with $380.00 for labor and materials or are you not counting the mulch as materials.

              How about some more info boog......
              *How much does your help get paid per hr?
              *How much per hr do you pay yourself?
              *Is the companies profits included with your hourly rate?
              *How long do you think all the work to be completed will take the three of you?

              Throw us that info and we should be able to come up with a better bid for you.
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              • #8
                You stated that your cost was going to be $380 labor and materials, is that including your pay? For example purposes lets say it is not.

                Holy crap, i just figured out the numbers on the mulch at 3" deep thats roughly 34 yards
                How about some more info boog......


                I was added something wrong . Ok at 2" i will need 23 yards @ $20 a yard = $460
                Two labors $10 a hour for one 8HR day is $160 that = $620 i know for sure i will have to spend. now how do i leave room for every thing else like extra materials gas, my pay ,equipment ect. what would be a safe estimate in case i will need the extra inch of mulch which will be 11 yards this is the biggest job i have had to bid on and i need the loot but i don't want to do it for free any advice is helpful and another thought would i pay my self $10 also ?

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                • #9
                  my estimate

                  here is what i have come up with this is 1st time for a job this size

                  Estimate
                  $1600-
                  $1020- labor , mulch & gas

                  that will leave me $580 to play with if i need extra materials + put money in the bank

                  how i came up with this is

                  3 men $10HR two eight hr days
                  34 yards mulch = $680
                  $100 gas i know will need bore just rough estimate.

                  dose this sound right ? i hope so

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                  • #10
                    Are you only paying yourself $10 a hour? Plus where is your labor burden. If you are paying your guys $10 an hour it is probably costing you closer to $15 when you figure taxes and insurance.

                    This just seems low. What is your average hourly rate per hour that your company must charge to cover all your overhead including your salary? National average is around $45 a hour.

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                    • #11
                      Are you only paying yourself $10 a hour? Plus where is your labor burden. If you are paying your guys $10 an hour it is probably costing you closer to $15 when you figure taxes and insurance.

                      This just seems low. What is your average hourly rate per hour that your company must charge to cover all your overhead including your salary? National average is around $45 a hour.

                      her is what im thinking i have doing some thinking if i charge $60 a hr labor x8hrs = $480 I say job takes 4days that will be $1920 labor the i charge $25 a yard for 26 yards that is $650 + a $ 200 delivery charge that brings me to $2770 does any of this sound right ?? i have no clue how to bid this im tryn best i can this is 1st time i has a job this size and had to hire a crew im just tring to get some help on this deal

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                      • #12
                        Do u have a mulch blowing service where u are u might get it blown in cheaper and make more profit than doing it yourself

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                        • #13
                          From your pics I think your price is to high but I don't know what the market is like where u live

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                          • #14
                            her is what im thinking i have doing some thinking if i charge $60 a hr labor x8hrs = $480 I say job takes 4days that will be $1920 labor the i charge $25 a yard for 26 yards that is $650 + a $ 200 delivery charge that brings me to $2770 does any of this sound right ?? i have no clue how to bid this im tryn best i can this is 1st time i has a job this size and had to hire a crew im just tring to get some help on this deal
                            Well there are a few ways you can go, so here is my 2cents. Most guys in my area when installing mulch charge by the yard installed and not the hour. I only use my company hourly rate so I can figure out what I need to determine my per yard rate. Typically it ranges from 25-45 a yard in my area depending on the difficulty of the job.

                            Here is what I would do. I would price out my mulch, delivery and my time for the estimate, ordering the mulch, any mark up on the mulch and any other leg work. This is my mulch cost. Then I multiply my mulch yardage by the rate per yard to install. Say for illustration purposes you want $40 a yard to put it down. For the 26 yards that is @$1040 for labor. Add this to your material cost which you said was @$850 and you have $1890 for the job. Then you can add to that any additional cost for other work, bed prep, product mark up, disposal fees, leg work, etc.

                            For example this is a pretty easy job by looking at the pictures. You can have the mulch dumped right next to the bed on the street and install it. I know myself and a helper can put down @2yards an hour and that is even wheel barrowing it to a back yard. I based the above example on using a two man crew with my productivity. Yours may be different so change the rate accordingly. This job will be a little more challenging then a standard flower bed mulch job because of the angle and you may have to come up with a different transport method besides a wheel barrow, but still not bad.

                            Now dont use my numbers for your estimate. This was just an example of how I would do it based on rates in my area. Your area and the rate you need to charge to turn a profit and pay your overhead I can guarantee are different then mine.

                            Let us know what you come up with.

                            Jay

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                            • #15
                              I think Jay nailed it down pretty good with his estimate, depending on area and competition you might need to float it up or down a bit.

                              Here is what i would ask for this job.....I get around $55.00 to $58.00 per yard for pick up and install, then add some for any extras needed. For large jobs my mulch guy will throw me a discount for ordering so much or give free delivery, taking this and your info into consideration........Having it deliverd cuts all that drive time for you out of the equation allowing you to keep the bid low to insure you get the job , but still make money..

                              23 yards at $55.00= $1430.00
                              2 guys at $10.00 per Hr-8 Hrs= $160.00
                              $200.00 for extras ( if needed )

                              $1790.00 for the job

                              3 guys should be able to knock that out in one day if you have it delivered and there is no drive time, fuell, etc. If your a little over on the 8 Hrs by them a 12 pack or something , let your guys know you appreciate there hard work, and stayin longer.

                              This bid gives you a little room to play around with costs if the client isnt sure about the amount.

                              Give it a try. Good luck and let us know how it goes.
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