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    I do quite a bit of powerwashing homes and was looking to starting roofs. I have been experimenting on my own. Scary(LOL) better then getting sued for fouling somebody elses though. I have tried M1 roof cleaner, oxiclean, and the famed applesauce mixture. I certainly dont want to rip across the roof with my Karcher, but these mixtures dont seem to completely get the job done. I have had a lot of people ask for this service lately. The newer shingles seem to contain larger amounts of limestone which is like food for mold. Has anyone used the Roof QSE products http://www.cleanertoday.com/Roof-Cle...f-qse-3000.htm I picked up a trial package for like $50. Got to spend $$$ to make it. So if no one has used it Ill let you know how it works. Or if ive been duped out of a Grant. LOL


    Thanks in advance

  • #2
    Call me and I can tell you why your mixes have not worked.
    Pat

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    • #3
      I have cleaned a lot of roofs.

      Karcher? Man you are working too hard fro your money.

      How much money have you wasted trying to figure out how to clean a roof? The apple sauce does work. You can't use pressure on a shingle without causing damage.

      Here's the thing guys, instead of trying to do everything and be bad at all of them, why not do one thing very well and command higher prices. Remember the saying "Jack of all trades master of NONE". I do exterior cleaning and I do not mow lawns. Do I know how? Hell yes but I am good at the cleaning. I throw a lawn guy the landscaping and he throws me the cleaning.

      Unless you are going to get into something full time then you are better off sticking with what you do BEST. Believe me I understand the need to get additional income.

      Another thing is that your are NOT insured for this type of work. Just because you have liability insurance does not mean that you are covered for everything you do.

      Get a few bucks off of a referral and get some other work thrown your way. I am really trying to help you all with your customers. What would happen if you ruined something and your insurance would not cover it?

      Here is what would happen..... You damage something and you can not afford to pay to have it fixed because your insurance only covers you for lawn care. Now the customer is angry and you lose all the work for them. They tell everyone they know what a piece of crap your company is. If you are lucky they don't sue you. Not only do you not get paid for the work you did, but you also lost reoccurring income.

      Is that really worth a few bucks? It comes down to risk VS reward.

      If you have some downtime work ON your business not IN your business. Marketing and sales will make you more money in the long run.

      Since you are cleaning a roof or pressure washing you obviously have time to take on more lawns. If you were to add 1 lawn sale during this same time span the net would be more because it is reoccurring revenue. Where as the roof cleaning or pressure washing is a one time influx.

      Now I know that many of the people out there will tell me it is not that easy. Yes it is. If you have to add things like this, you need not be in business because you are doing it all wrong or you are not working hard enough.

      Not trying to come down on you specifically but I see this all the time. If you want to get into roof cleaning I can help with that but you need to put a full time crew on the road to make the investment worth while. You will find roof cleaning a harder sell.
      Pat

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      • #4
        First off as noted make sure your insurance is aware you are offering this service and that you are covered, check the local laws, where I live I must make the staff wear certain safety equipment over 10', the fines for not doing this are staggering. We do so many higher jobs pressure washing I bought the guys a 46' Articulating Boom Lift, it is used and I think I received a good price, prior to this we would rent them.

        You might want to consider a better pressure washer that allows you to use various tips depending on what you are doing, I have had a few Karchers and they were fine for washing the cars or ATV's but for commercial work, they would never do what our equipment does.

        We use Simple Green products, they have a variety depending on what you are doing.
        Andy
        Halifax, Nova Scotia

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        • #5
          Ive been beating the karcher up for about 8 yrs now

          What do you guys recommend. Im looking at newer machines this year. They 5.5 honda is dependable. For siding I use M1 and really have no problem getting it clean, but theres always a better way.

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          • #6
            Ok, now you guys have me interested...applesauce?? I have never heard of using applesauce on anything...interesting. Enlighten me a little here!
            Kendrick
            Cedar Lawn Care Services, LLC
            Kirksville, MO

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            • #7
              applesause but not from apples LOL

              Ok, now you guys have me interested...applesauce?? I have never heard of using applesauce on anything...interesting. Enlighten me a little here!

              Guess I should of specified that, its really just the nickname they give it.


              quote from site below:

              "Mixture for Apple Sauce is as follows.
              For 100 gallons TOTAL mix we need
              30 gallons Sodium Hypochlorite
              65 Gallons water
              12.5 lbs TSP
              12.5 lbs Borax"

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              • #8
                Ok I am new to offering this service. I am thoroughly researching on here and various other sites and on YouTube different methods. ok so several of you all have tried various methods to clean a roof. I know of over 100 homes in my parent's neighborhood who have the black crap aka algae on their roofs. some are bad, others look like the roof should be black lol. When asking around, a lot of the neighbors think it's just dirt and think that its permanently stained on their roof.

                I know of 3-4 different landscaping companies who service a lot of these homes and all of them I've been told by their customers all they do is cut grass, snow removal and that's about it. My company does it all.

                I will be moving into the area within the next month. As I mentioned in other posts Steve... I currently store all my equipment in my parent's huge shed. Now I am storing my new "used" trailer in my grandmother's driveway who lived next door. Well she passed away 2 weeks ago today at the ripe age of 97. Well long story short. I will be renting out my grandmother's house from my uncle and mother who now own it. This gives me a huge advantage over the other landscape companies by being closer to the customers. Most of the homeowners I have known since I was 5 years old. Grant it, they are all older and senior citizens now.

                One of my goals for 2011 and the remainder of 2010 is to be hired by the majority of them. How I am going to do this is by offering services none of the others offer. Such as roof cleaning, leaf cleanup, gutter cleaning, snow removal, and just about anything they might need. The catch is if they sign a contract with us, I will give them a discount on which ever service they hire us for. I plan to educate every single dirty roof homeowner and explain we can clean it for them and save them thousands of dollars by not having to replace their shingles prematurely.


                Back to the topic at hand. So I have gathered M-1 cleaner don't work well. I am exploring the apple sauce and apple cider mixtures and going to test out a small mixture on my grandmother and parent's roof by testing it out on one (1) shingle. Clearly I will not be using a pressure washer. Last thing I need is to destroy a roof from an improper cleaning method. I believe my best bet is to use LOW PRESSURE HIGH VOLUME method. What i take that as is garden hose pressure. I own an extension ladder. I have no intension as of now to be walking on a roof that's wet. Can we say I don't have a death wish. I know I need to get a harness for fall protection when I advance to getting on the roof. For now I intend to stand on the ladder at the roof's edge and spray the solution onto the roof from there.

                Items I think I need:

                1. A nozzle that will shoot the solution up to say 25-35 ft away.

                2. A siphoning connection for a garden hose to run a hose to install between
                the hose and nozzle or a combination nozzle that I can buy that does both
                things. I intend to drop the solution hose into a 5 gallon bucket on ground
                level.


                Questions I have for those experienced with this:

                1. Do any of you recommend a particular hose nozzle?

                2. Where can I buy a siphoning connection?

                3. Can I wash the solution off using the same nozzle to apply it after I bleed
                the system of the solution?

                4. How often do I tell the customer they need to have this service repeated?
                every year... every 2?

                5. If apple sauce or Apple cider is not recommended. What would you
                recommend to be the best solution to the black algae removal?


                Ok I believe I have said enough for now. Let's see what kind of responses we get on this topic.

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                • #9
                  Equipment

                  Go to www.pressuretek.com They have pre-made kits. You just need a battery and a tank.

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                  • #10
                    Rob,

                    Did you ever figure out a way to clean off the moss from the roofs? Have you begun to offer this service to your customers? How have you streamlined your procedure to clean the roofs?
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                    • #11
                      Since pressuretek's kits are expensive. Its time to use my noodle and "jimmy rig" my own custom system utilizing plumbing parts. I will post what i con**** up.

                      Only question i got is. Since the mixes require water. Could i just mix all the ingredients together straight. then design an injector to adjust the ratio of water to concentrated solution to get the right mixture? is that possible or just easier to mix it with the right amount of water ahead of time. i'll figure something out. i have enough engineering know-how to design something up.

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                      • #12
                        Since pressuretek's kits are expensive. Its time to use my noodle and "jimmy rig" my own custom system utilizing plumbing parts. I will post what i con**** up.

                        Only question i got is. Since the mixes require water. Could i just mix all the ingredients together straight. then design an injector to adjust the ratio of water to concentrated solution to get the right mixture? is that possible or just easier to mix it with the right amount of water ahead of time. i'll figure something out. i have enough engineering know-how to design something up.
                        You can always find a way to rig something. But in the long run it may cost u more. lol. Check out this site a lot of good roof cleaning only info. U can be completely set up at ptek for 500 and make that back with 1 or 2 jobs. How much did u spend on a mower and how many jobs does it take to make that back?????

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                        • #13
                          Shingle roof cleaning: Try Clean-All or Revive-All from www.ices.net

                          I do quite a bit of powerwashing homes and was looking to starting roofs. I have been experimenting on my own. Scary(LOL) better then getting sued for fouling somebody elses though. I have tried M1 roof cleaner, oxiclean, and the famed applesauce mixture. I certainly dont want to rip across the roof with my Karcher, but these mixtures dont seem to completely get the job done. I have had a lot of people ask for this service lately. The newer shingles seem to contain larger amounts of limestone which is like food for mold. Has anyone used the Roof QSE products http://www.cleanertoday.com/Roof-Cle...f-qse-3000.htm I picked up a trial package for like $50. Got to spend $$$ to make it. So if no one has used it Ill let you know how it works. Or if ive been duped out of a Grant. LOL


                          Thanks in advance
                          My name is Dan Swede I work at Industrial Cleaning Equipment & Supply in Fort Lauderdale Florida. We manufacture two amazing products Revive-All and Clean-All for shingle roof cleaning. They are both safe around plants and they are designed to work on the worst mildew covered roofs.

                          Both products are diluted 10 to 1 with water and one gallon will clean a 1,500 sq ft roof.
                          $18.95 per gallon and it is cheaper in bulk, bottom line it only cost a little over 1 cent per square foot to use it.
                          Dan Swede
                          Sales, marketing and technical support manager.

                          Industrial Cleaning Equipment & Supply
                          2600 NW 55th Court Fort Lauderdale, FL 33309
                          Phone 800-731-7789 / 954-778-4386 Fax 954-733-7793
                          Email highpressuresalesman@gmail.com
                          Website www.ices.net

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                          • #14
                            Welcome to our forum Dan.

                            What do you recommend the best way to apply your products and then to wash them off? How long does it take for your product to do it's job?
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                            • #15
                              Shingle roof cleaner

                              Welcome to our forum Dan.

                              What do you recommend the best way to apply your products and then to wash them off? How long does it take for your product to do it's job?

                              You can use a 12-Volt chemical sprayer if you plan to do a lot of roof cleaning, like we install on the trailers we build. (See my youtube video link below) or you can use a pump up or backpack sprayer.

                              Mix the Clean-All or Revive-All 10 x 1 water (10 part water) let sit around a 1/2 hour and use a low pressure rinse. Normally once your done spraying the cleaning solution you should be able to start washing off the roof.

                              If you use a small pressure washer like a 5 HP to 13 HP Honda to rinse the roof off, you should use a low pressure spray nozzle or lower the pressure on the unit itself.

                              The other rinse option is to use a water broom, connect it to the end of your pressure washer wand. The water broom is 16" wide with 4 spray nozzles and two wheels on the end. Since it has 4 nozzles with 65 degree fan each, the fan cover the entire width 16" plus inches and that reduces the impact on shingle roof. (The water brooms are very inexpensive)

                              Link to my Youtube video that shows hundreds of mobile pressure cleaning system that I have designed and sold in the past. Click here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2klin700YZM or cut & paste in your browser window.

                              Dan Swede

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                              Dan Swede
                              Sales, marketing and technical support manager.

                              Industrial Cleaning Equipment & Supply
                              2600 NW 55th Court Fort Lauderdale, FL 33309
                              Phone 800-731-7789 / 954-778-4386 Fax 954-733-7793
                              Email highpressuresalesman@gmail.com
                              Website www.ices.net

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