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    Looking to purchase commercial grade battery lawn equipment. any help would be appreciated.

    matt

  • #2
    Is this Husqvarna Panthera available for the market yet? You might want to check this out.

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    • #3
      Husqvarna Panthera Leo specs

      Panthera Leo:

      • Equipped with zero-emission technology

      • Produced from recycled materials

      • Rechargeable Lithium-phosphate battery

      • Plug-in product, charged at any electrical point

      • Five brushless electrical engines, easy and clean to maintain

      • Three separate cutters equipped with razor sharp blades

      • Cutters individually suspended to glide smoothly over bumpy terrain and prevent lawn scalping

      • Variable cutting width (85-120cm)

      • Zero-turn functionality

      • Lifting cutting deck (90 degrees)

      • Ergonomic steering wheel

      • Easy to control dashboard

      • Cutting time 2 hours, overnight charging

      • Detailed LCD display monitor (featuring cutting height, width of cutting deck, speed, service information, steep hill warning, objects that are too close)

      For more information, visit here http://international.husqvarna.com/n...x?_newsid=9046

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      • #4
        These will work for homeowners but not commercial use. 2 hours of a charge will not cut it. Maybe you can carry 2 or 3 extra sets of charged batteries on your truck and just swap them out as they die out.

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        • #5
          Cool

          Is that made by Husqvarna or Norelco? It sure looks a lot like my electric razor. It even has the same floating heads. They should be flattered, or sue them.

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          • #6
            Mother nature laughs at electric equipment.

            Just imagine how many batteries you'd need to bring along with you to service your customers.

            Sure you might get a good hour out of one battery, but over time the battery will dull & only keep a 10 minute or less charge.

            Try using a battery powered hedge trimmer, you wont get anything done.

            You'd be doing just as much harm with battery disposal as using gas equipment. (actually I'm not sure)

            Either way, stay away from batteries.

            Which is best from top to bottom;
            Gas
            Electric
            Nothing
            Battery

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            • #7
              You should do some research.

              The current battery technology does make it feasible. It is true that ni-cad and lead acid batteries have serious drawbacks. But, the current lithium iron phosphate batteries do not. For example, look at the Bosch line of lithium equipment. They are a bit overpriced, and only being marketed in Europe, but, Worx is catching up with their own line up of lithium powered yard equipment. The advantage of lithium batteries is that they carry more power for the same weight, they don't have the memory problems of ni-cads, they charge quickly, and you can re-charge them a thousand times compared to a few hundred charges of other batteries. I currently own their lithium trimmer/edger, hedge trimmer, and yard blower. I also have a Worx battery lawnmower. It came with this 30lb. 24v 17ah lead acid battery, that, with the 1.5 amp charger takes a hell of a long time to charge. I replaced the battery with a LiFePO4 battery pack that weighs half as much, comes with a 5amp charger and is 20ah. You do the math. It costs less than twice what Worx charges for their extra battery, has three more amp hours, weighs half as much, charges more than three times faster, will last more than three times as long as their battery, without going "dull" as you call it. No the current battery technology does make it feasible. And, I don't have to carry a whole lot of batteries. I can get three yards in before lunch time, go home, have lunch, quick charge my batteries and get out in time to do three more. And, I carry it all in my electric bicycle's trailer. I use NO gas. I make less than half the noise. My equipment has about ten times less moving parts, so needs a hell of a lot less servicing. I don't have to pay for car insurance, registration, or tune-ups. Again, do the math. I costs me literally pennies worth of electricity a day to run my one man business. How much do you spend per day running yours?
              Mother nature laughs at electric equipment.

              Just imagine how many batteries you'd need to bring along with you to service your customers.

              Sure you might get a good hour out of one battery, but over time the battery will dull & only keep a 10 minute or less charge.

              Try using a battery powered hedge trimmer, you wont get anything done.

              You'd be doing just as much harm with battery disposal as using gas equipment. (actually I'm not sure)

              Either way, stay away from batteries.

              Which is best from top to bottom;
              Gas
              Electric
              Nothing
              Battery

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              • #8
                How much do you spend per day running yours?
                One hundred million dollars. Joking.


                Well I usually do maybe 12 lawns a day, but to service 6 lawns it probably cost me a few bucks in gas considering every job is close together & I do most of the work right the first time.

                As for truck payments & such, that's just paying for luxury & it benefits my life outside of work. I'd rather owe thousands of dollars than to not have a vehicle. And the gas in my mower can be put in my truck at the end of the season, that's enough to get me to the furthest gas station in town, lol!

                You can't really haul anything with a bike, including more efficient tools & loads of debris in order to take on more work, which eventually your expenses get paid off from doing. Can you haul a ladder & do any hedge trimming or gutter work?

                How big of a trailer can your bike tow?

                Having a truck just means getting more done while your at the job site, you can bring everything & get all of your up sells done & lawn maintenance. I don't have to travel back to the garage & bring each individual tool to the customers house in x amount trips.

                You might not have as many expenses, though your not getting as much done per day than those with vehicles (give or take). If you have to recharge your battery every 3 lawns, that's no good. Unless these lawns are on the large scale.

                I am very curious to see your set up, picture of the bike & equipment. Maybe I'm wrong, I've always wanted an electric bike lol. Though for business I figure it wouldn't look too professional.

                Do you use a trimmer & blower along side of your lawn mower?
                Last edited by CHEESE2009; 01-16-2010, 12:06 PM.

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                • #9
                  I can get three yards in before lunch time, go home, have lunch, quick charge my batteries and get out in time to do three more. And, I carry it all in my electric bicycle's trailer.
                  Bob you gotta tell us more about your setup! I'd love to see some pictures too!
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                  • #10
                    Sure thing.

                    I haven't got any pictures of my rig at the moment. And, we're expecting a whole week of rain. But, I'll post some as soon as the weather allows. In the mean time your can look at the equipment at WorxYardTools.com, the bike at goldenmotors.com, and the large cargo trailer is at aosom.com. It can carry 180lbs. My equipment doesn't way anywhere close to that. The lawnmower fits perfectly in the trailer. The handle folds forward so that only 3 inches protrudes over the back top edge of the trailer. There's still plenty of room for my trimmer/edger, blower, hedge trimmer, an expanding rake, and all of my hand tools. As for a ladder, I haven't had the need for one. But, I know I can get one of those folding ones and bungie cord it across the top quite easily if the need arises. I'll have to spend about another $600 to almost triple my battery supply. Then I can stay out all day. That's my next step. As for hauling, if I'm doing something other than basic yard care, the trailer holds quite a bit. And, I do own a car. I don't use it for anything I don't have to (freeway trips). Since all my business is local I'm thinking of getting rid of it. I know I can underbid my competition. So far I have not seen a reason or need to. A lot of people like the quiet, and the idea of reducing their carbon footprint. I use copy from the Worx website in my flyer. 5% of urban air pollution comes from gas-powered lawn equipment*

                    * If you are concerned about global warming, climate change or simply the quality of air you breathe, you'll find it interesting to know that lawn and garden tools in Southern California emit more pollution than all the airplanes flying into LAX, Burbank and Orange County airports combined.

                    In one hour, a gas mower emits the same amount of pollutants as 11 late model automobiles*

                    * A single gas mower emits a large quantity of carbon dioxide (greenhouse gas), plus a quantity of smog pollutants including hydrocarbons and nitrogen oxides. If you are considering buying a low emission hybrid car, you can do even more for the environment by switching to emission-free electric lawn and garden equipment.

                    Each year, American homeowners spill 17 million gallons of fuel.* That's more oil than was spilled by the Exxon Valdez in Alaska.

                    * Each weekend, 54 million Americans mow their lawns, trim their hedges and blow their leaves away. A few drops here, a few there while refueling their gas-equipment…you do the math. Also, spilled gasoline that evaporates actually produces ground-level ozone that increases asthma attacks and irritates your eyes, nose and throat.

                    75% noise reduction compared to most gas-powered mowers*

                    * Ever been annoyed by the loud whine of a lawn mower on a quiet Sunday morning? The WorxECO mower produces only 25% of the noise level of a standard gas mower. Your neighbors will appreciate the peace and quiet.

                    *Source: US Environmental Protection Agency

                    I'm telling you gas-heads, you might want take another look at what's out there. You might lose your job to me. Or, someone like me.

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                    • #11
                      Your kidding right??
                      Although that stuff may be good for your typical homeowner, but no way that stuff will last 1 season working them 40hrs a week.. Especially down here in the high heat and high humidity..I had a set of battery powered hedges clippers and they didnt last 1 summer..The battery held a good charge, but I wore out the motor..The stuff just isnt built for constant use..I just met a guy that has 110 accounts.. How long do you think he will be in business using that stuff.. Or how long do you think that stuff will continue to work on the scale he will need them to..

                      Building a commercial Z mower that will be as productive as a gas powered mower would cost twice as much and be twice as heavy..
                      Then what are you going to do when you have to do mowing in the rain?

                      Ill stick to the gas powered for now..

                      Thanks


                      In Memory of My Dad..1943-2008..Gary "Snuffy" Smith

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                      • #12
                        I'm telling you gas-heads, you might want take another look at what's out there. You might lose your job to me. Or, someone like me.
                        This is a unique service, how do you take advantage of it in your marketing? Do you market much or do you find you get more attention when you are out servicing your clients during the day?

                        Do you have signs on your trailer?

                        I went to that site goldenmotors.com to look for your bike and it was a car dealership. Am I missing where I could see a pic of it?
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                        • #13
                          Agreed

                          You have to work in the rain? Gee, that's too bad. I live in southern California, so I don't have that problem. As for a commercial lawnmower, if they can build an electric car, they can build an electric lawnmower. It might cost a little more initially, the batteries are expensive, but, with the fuel savings, and so few moving parts, it will last longer. No, I don't expect a large operation to rely on battery equipment. I'm just a small one man show. I can't tell you how long they will last. But, if I get a year out of them, I'll be happy. Six months so far, no problems. They're not that expensive. I'm also a professional photographer. I learned a long time ago, if your going to charge money for a service you need to own two of everything. I will take your advice and buy a backup set. OOPS! try goldenmotor.com.
                          Last edited by Bob91403; 01-17-2010, 01:25 PM. Reason: correction

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                          • #14
                            I just met a guy that has 110 accounts.. How long do you think he will be in business using that stuff..
                            A month.

                            I eat gas for breakfast!

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                            • #15
                              Oh that worked! Very interesting!

                              Do you do much marketing to get the word out about your unique service?

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